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[BababooeyHTJ]

I might have to steal that idea. What fan guards are you using?

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[bill dennison]

I might have to steal that idea. What fan guards are you using?

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I made them out of some 18ga sheet metal I had cut on my my suppliers plasma table for the outer frame
and a roll expanded aluminum I had in the my shop, I put some 1/8 x 1/4 foam tape on the fans to add spacing between fans and the expanded aluminum

expanded aluminum is about 20 to 24 ga can't remember where I got it

[Ristogod]

Took out the Lightnings shown here and replaced them with an X2 and a Gaming.

Before:


After:

[t0adp1p3]

Nice Bill and risto

[Ristogod]

Nice Bill and risto

Bill's > Mine

[dreamwalker]

Courtesy of caveman-jim, installed my 8350 + FX liquid cooler.

Before & after -- I had to remove my side case fan because with the combination of the two fans + radiator, there wasn't enough room.

Before



After

[Megaman]

Took out the Lightnings shown here and replaced them with an X2 and a Gaming.

Before:


After:

Noticed you have a pull configuration on your rad. Worth it over the push config or was it a visual preference?

[Ristogod]

Noticed you have a pull configuration on your rad. Worth it over the push config or was it a visual preference?

Horse a piece in terms of performance. Pretty sure I mounted it that way simply because it required less screws.

A very long time ago when I had a custom liquid cooling system, I did do some testing on different radiator/fan orientations. What I found was the best for a single fan on a rad was to have it pull with a spacer. So I would hollow out an extra fan and mount it between the rad and the active fan in pull orientation. That alleviated the dead spot and allow it to cool a few degrees less.

[shadow001]

Weight of the lower card's cooler seems to be bending the PCB.....Now you know why I like horizontal configurations and the card sitting nice and vertical.

[Megaman]

Horse a piece in terms of performance. Pretty sure I mounted it that way simply because it required less screws.

A very long time ago when I had a custom liquid cooling system, I did do some testing on different radiator/fan orientations. What I found was the best for a single fan on a rad was to have it pull with a spacer. So I would hollow out an extra fan and mount it between the rad and the active fan in pull orientation. That alleviated the dead spot and allow it to cool a few degrees less.

Fair enough. I think it looks nicer with the fans hidden. I might flip mine the next time I dust out my case.

[Apocalypsee]

GTX 560 as PhysX card



I don't think using card as PhysX will consume much power but still I used secondary PSU just to be safe

[logical]

That looks terrible...

[Apocalypsee]

Yeah I just too lazy with cable management

[Sazar]

Yeah I just too lazy with cable management

**** the cable management, it's dusty as the ****ing Sahara

[Apocalypsee]

**** the cable management, it's dusty as the ****ing Sahara

It isn't as bad as it looks just the flash makes things worse

[caveman-jim]

Courtesy of caveman-jim, installed my 8350 + FX liquid cooler.

Before & after -- I had to remove my side case fan because with the combination of the two fans + radiator, there wasn't enough room.

Before



After

Yeah, buddy - nice. Now we just need to get you join the red team for the GPU, too!

[aviphysics]

Courtesy of caveman-jim, installed my 8350 + FX liquid cooler.

Hmmm... so what does a guy have to do these days to get Caveman to send them free stuff

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[dreamwalker]

Yeah, buddy - nice. Now we just need to get you join the red team for the GPU, too!

Perhaps next year when the 290X price drops

Hmmm... so what does a guy have to do these days to get Caveman to send them free stuff

I had to do a very long, complicated, tribal dance (full red facepaint) and PM him the video

[bill dennison]

got the 680 waterblocks on



and in and water in system power off



after a few hours i'll check it and if still ok i'll plug the pump into the other side for a day to fully leak check it

then i'll start to look for blocks for the 290x's

[t0adp1p3]

got the 680 waterblocks on



and in and water in system power off



after a few hours i'll check it and if still ok i'll plug the pump into the other side for a day to fully leak check it

then i'll start to look for blocks for the 290x's

looking sweet bill

[BababooeyHTJ]

Isn't that like an e-atx board? It looks so tiny in that case.

[bill dennison]

Isn't that like an e-atx board? It looks so tiny in that case.

yea a Maximus V formula, you should have see the maximus v gene I had in it to set up hole placement for the quick connects I still have to get



did some tests runs on the 680's
water temp 27c
all stock
idle at 27c
load max temp 45c

and the 3770k is about the same idle 27c & max load 45c

rad fans running at 1100 rpm and just a low whisper

[BababooeyHTJ]

I'm surprised that you even run the fans at 1100rpm. I bet that you could get away with 900rpm or less with those monster rads and not notice much of a difference with temps.

[bill dennison]

I'm surprised that you even run the fans at 1100rpm. I bet that you could get away with 900rpm or less with those monster rads and not notice much of a difference with temps.

just turned them down till I could not hear them with most everything in room off but keep them as fast as possible to allow for the filters as they get dirty

and all that air is going up through the case the 680 side is so cool now I think I can get rid of the 2 case fans on that side


i'm almost tempted to get rid of the rads and fans and put a water to water heat exchanger in it and a cooling tower in the side yard

heat exchangers
http://www.ctwoodfurnace.com/parts_water_to_water.htm

tower
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cooling-Towe...item43a96cd6a5

[BababooeyHTJ]

I'm interested to hear the pros and cons of a unit like that.

[bill dennison]

I'm interested to hear the pros and cons of a unit like that.

a cooling tower ?

pro

65f to 80f water temp most of the year
most all heat is pumped outside, save on a/c cooling bills
and noise is mostly outside to


cons

cost of set up
piping the house with insulated copper pipe

maybe to cold in winter, but maybe able to find a temperature actuated water regulating valve in the right temp range
or cover and or just turn off the tower fan in winter and just run the pump


I would be more likely to do it if koolance still made that water cooled PSU

[BababooeyHTJ]

Nice, I do you think that the savings in a/c will outweigh the cost of running the tower? I notice that it has a 1/6 horse motor. I'm sure that the pump draws a bit too.

Will you have to worry about condensation?

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[bill dennison]

Nice, I do you think that the savings in a/c will outweigh the cost of running the tower? I notice that it has a 1/6 horse motor. I'm sure that the pump draws a bit too.

Will you have to worry about condensation?

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you would not need the big pump the tower is build to handle with a 3 ton a/c just a good cooler pump and that does not draw much
this one is only 1.2 amps at 115v so about 140 watts and they pump a good bit of water
http://www.grainger.com/product/4NY30?gclid=CKKO0OGlkL8CFU5afgodcQEAYA&cm_mmc=PPC:GooglePLA-_-Pumps-_-Machine%20Tool%20and%20Parts%20Washer%20Pumps-_-4NY30&ci_src=17588969&ci_sku=4NY30&ef_id=UpIcIwAABfDB4hhg:20140623151849:s

the fan motor I don't have a draw on but 1/6 is not much maybe about 1.5 amps or 170 to 200 watts

so total about 350 watts so yea with my two systems and 4 cards i'm sure they pump out more heat into the room than that

[aviphysics]

But it doesn't take 350 Wh to move 350 Wh of heat from the house. It is something less than that, not sure exactly how much though.

[bill dennison]

But it doesn't take 350 Wh to move 350 Wh of heat from the house. It is something less than that, not sure exactly how much though.

the 350 is the tower fan and pump watts

my two systems can max out about 750 to 850 watts each so say 1500 watts of heat or about 5200 btu so you would need about a 1/2 ton window unit would do it and that uses about 600 watts and noisy as h*ll
mini split ac would be quieter but cost 4 times as much

I just put a mastercool evap cooler on my office just for it and it working great till the monsoon season hits
and by using a 1/2hp motor and a 3" pulley I got the total amps down to 1.3 on low and 2.9 on high at 240 volts, so 312 watts on low and 696 watts on high

[aviphysics]

the 350 is the tower fan and pump watts

my two systems can max out about 750 to 850 watts each so say 1500 watts of heat or about 5200 btu so you would need about a 1/2 ton window unit would do it and that uses about 600 watts and noisy as h*ll
mini split ac would be quieter but cost 4 times as much

I just put a mastercool evap cooler on my office just for it and it working great till the monsoon season hits
and by using a 1/2hp motor and a 3" pulley I got the total amps down to 1.3 on low and 2.9 on high at 240 volts, so 312 watts on low and 696 watts on high

Your systems can max out at 750-850 watts, but they don't run that all the time, do they? Most of the time I imagine they are somewhere between 100-200 watts or even lower.

In terms of A/C requirements, I just made an assumption that you already had decent full home A/C (that is probably a poor assumption. Where I live, you would be pretty miserable without A/C)

In my area, I wonder what the water usage would be like. There are already communities that will have to ration this summer. No more water for home irrigation and stuff like that.

[bill dennison]

Your systems can max out at 750-850 watts, but they don't run that all the time, do they? Most of the time I imagine they are somewhere between 100-200 watts or even lower.

In terms of A/C requirements, I just made an assumption that you already had decent full home A/C (that is probably a poor assumption. Where I live, you would be pretty miserable without A/C)

In my area, I wonder what the water usage would be like. There are already communities that will have to ration this summer. No more water for home irrigation and stuff like that.

yea I got full home a/c and full home evaporative cooling plus now the small slowed down 5000 cmf evaporative cooler on the office

and i'm a hvac contractor

and idle on the 3930k system is about 275 watts and the 3770k is around 240 watts

evaporative coolers do use a bit of water and have a bleed off of about 3 gal. a hour when running but I reuse it to go to the trees

[aviphysics]

yea I got full home a/c and full home evaporative cooling plus now the small slowed down 5000 cmf evaporative cooler on the office

and i'm a hvac contractor

and idle on the 3930k system is about 275 watts and the 3770k is around 240 watts

evaporative coolers do use a bit of water and have a bleed off of about 3 gal. a hour when running but I reuse it to go to the trees

Wow. I am surprised they use that much at idle. I thought the newer i7 systems idled below 100W. Even a Titan + 3930X based system idles near 100W.

Edit: 290x + 4960X based system idles below 90W. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/t...290x-review/19

I don't think even a second 290x and monitor power consumption would push you above 200 W at idle. What are you doing to those poor computers?

[bill dennison]

Wow. I am surprised they use that much at idle. I thought the newer i7 systems idled below 100W. Even a Titan + 3930X based system idles near 100W.

Edit: 290x + 4960X based system idles below 90W. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7457/t...290x-review/19

I don't think even a second 290x and monitor power consumption would push you above 200 W at idle. What are you doing to those poor computers?

well that maybe with a system with nothing loaded in

and some of it has to be Kaspersky and steam, origin and all the other background crap

[BababooeyHTJ]

Yeah, but none of that stuff pushes the hardware. My pc draws very little at idle too.

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[bill dennison]

Yeah, but none of that stuff pushes the hardware. My pc draws very little at idle too.

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I'm just going by the watt meter on my UPS
and a d5 pump is 23 watts plus 8 140mm fans 2 120mm fans plus fan controller & 4 hard drives a bluray

and actually there is a directv dvr box is on my ups power supply so it is about 27 watts and the dsl router

it all add up

[lazyx]

trash my corsair 200r for Define r4.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Looks really good.

[Shadowless]

trash my corsair 200r for Define r4.

That's a sexy case, I should buy one... Oh wait, that's right, I already did

[lazyx]

Replace the CM 212 Evo for Noctua NH-D14. Temps want down 8-9c.