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    I'd pay 6 if nearly every game had solid framerates and mouse+keyboard support, and the box started looking like a viable replacement for my gaming PC.
    Originally posted by KAC
    To be honest I never even found doom 3 to be scary since I have a big dick since birth.

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      I think I maybe skipping PS5 for a while, With a nice discount I will be getting the Xbox series X and a new Higher end graphics card for the PC, I think the PS5 can wait a while, Also with game pass paid through 2022, I dont have to buy a lot of games for the Series X.
      Last edited by Nascar24; Jun 14, 2020, 09:40 AM.

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        Switch was (and is still is) expensive according to everyone but it still sold like hotcakes, mainly cuz it isnt "just another console" like the PS5 and Xbox are. Plus its got the Nintendo exclusives which can sell any console by themselves.
        But its still half the price of a PS5 if that comes out at 600.

        600 boners is hard to swallow.....thats alot of milk......especially after the pandemic when half the world got laid off and reduced coin....can people afford that?

        And dont forget the accessories, i'd hope that the previous controllers would work with PS5.....Switch required all new accessories over Wii-U (which could just recycle regular wii controllers) and their **** is expensive.
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          I really wish Lg made a 36” or whatever OLED that I could put on my computer desk and use that for my gaming, that way I get the beauty of oled and my wife can still watch her Japanese tv

          I’ll probably preorder a ps5, but will see what it comes with. If horizon is launch then for sure I’ll preorder it.
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            The last couple of launches I've bought both coins . I don't see this time being any different? My only concern at this point is the day-one numbers? It might be difficult to secure either console at launch and for a moderate time afterwards?

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              Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
              I wasn't talking about what console gamers care about, more how those parts are not cheap.

              a 10terraflop PC GPU costs about as much as a console does it self, then you have PCI Express 4 NVME drive, the controller etc

              I think 600 will be the price, and people will buy it anyway.

              Nintendo Switch is non stop selling all the time, it's 340 euro and is a handheld hybrid that's not even as fast as a base PS4.

              I want it to be 400 then it's a instant buy for me, but Sony nor Microsoft is going to take a hit on console sales.
              The point i thought you were trying to make was that people will still buy even if really expensive because they understand and see value in the high end parts it has. I just don't believe that to be true. Most console gamers are too casual to care. They will simply balk at the price.

              Sure, you'll always have the people who will buy no matter what. But at $700+ sales numbers will suffer. History of console launches had shown that and there's no getting around it. To throw more fuel on it, you're looking at projected U.S. unemployment numbers around 10-15% at end of the year.

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                Originally posted by Ravens Nest View Post
                The PS5's SSD is 825GB so not even a terrabyte. you'll run out of room quickly, unless you mean buying an external nvme drive for it later on.
                http://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/...etter_than_hdd
                I'm suspecting Sony are using 1tb ssd nvme but limiting them to 0.825 to increase life span of the drive (e.g. limitations on read/writes).
                If not you can only use 500gb of the drive, which would suck.

                RE: Costs, given the current roller coaster on component costs, I'm not surprised the RRP haven't been released.
                Both M$ & Sony will likely sell the consoles at a loss.
                But Covid could well impact the final pricings.
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                  Originally posted by Meteor_of_War View Post
                  The point i thought you were trying to make was that people will still buy even if really expensive because they understand and see value in the high end parts it has. I just don't believe that to be true. Most console gamers are too casual to care. They will simply balk at the price.

                  Sure, you'll always have the people who will buy no matter what. But at $700+ sales numbers will suffer. History of console launches had shown that and there's no getting around it. To throw more fuel on it, you're looking at projected U.S. unemployment numbers around 10-15% at end of the year.
                  I'm guessing 600, but would be much happier if it was 500 or less.

                  If it's 400-500 then I'll be happy, however I remain sceptical.
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                    I think $499 and $449 (for the digital edition) would sell out in an instant!
                    Remember the PS5 plays PS4 games so you can sell your PS4 and recoup some of your money.

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                      499 for these consoles is an instant buy. Especially the PS5. But I am sure we are not getting it for 499 for sure.

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                        i think 699 is about what it is going to be

                        7nm costs and a bigger APU and i think AMD is shooting for more profit off these now

                        the new xbox will most likely be the same

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                          Originally posted by Java Cool Dude View Post
                          I think $499 and $449 (for the digital edition) would sell out in an instant!
                          Remember the PS5 plays PS4 games so you can sell your PS4 and recoup some of your money.
                          However is it all PS4 games? Because Sony hasn't been exactly clear about it.

                          They said they're trying to get compatibility. I hope there's a PS5 Boost mode similar in vain to what the Pro had for non pro games.
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                            I will probably wait until the new Horizon game is coming out to get a PS5, and that's not going to be this year.

                            Kena: Bridge of Spirits looks interesting, and I will get that on Epic game store. Also like Gran Turismo, but not sure when that will come out.

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                              PlayStation 5 To Feature A “Complete Rearchitecting Of The User Interface”; Console Design Is Customizable In Ways Previous Gens Weren’t
                              https://wccftech.com/playstation-5-i...-customizable/

                              how about keyboard and mouse game support

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                                If ms announces Lockhart at $300-$400, that will let them push series x for $600. That'll give Sony alot of flexibility to price their console.

                                If there's no Lockhart, I think it forces both PS5 & series x into the $400-$500 range, regardless of what they cost to build.
                                Last edited by SubCog; Jun 14, 2020, 04:20 PM.
                                Originally posted by KAC
                                To be honest I never even found doom 3 to be scary since I have a big dick since birth.

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                                  even if they are both 700 bucks you won't find one in stock for months

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                                    Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                    even if they are both 700 bucks you won't find one in stock for months
                                    If that happens then I'll be paying off my mortgage in a year or two, God willing

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                                      Originally posted by SubCog View Post
                                      If ms announces Lockhart at $300-$400, that will let them push series x for $600. That'll give Sony alot of flexibility to price their console.

                                      If there's no Lockhart, I think it forces both PS5 & series x into the $400-$500 range, regardless of what they cost to build.
                                      That's also what they said on giant beastcast.
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                                        I will be surprised if more then $499 for each. But whos to say, Nvidia surprised me so good on the 20 series I didn't buy one

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                                          Is there a list of confirmed launch titles floating around?

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                                            https://www.tomsguide.com/news/ps5-p...-than-expected

                                            Leaker and concept designer Ben Geskin shared images of the PS5's store page on Amazon France. These images put the prices at €499 for the standard PS5 and €399 for the Digital Edition, which converts to $565/£447 and $452/£358 respectively. The store page for the PS5 currently lists the price information as "currently unavailable," but we still have Geskin's screenshots to go by.
                                            https://twitter.com/BenGeskin/status...84921510191105

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                                              Originally posted by SubCog View Post
                                              If ms announces Lockhart at $300-$400, that will let them push series x for $600. That'll give Sony alot of flexibility to price their console.

                                              If there's no Lockhart, I think it forces both PS5 & series x into the $400-$500 range, regardless of what they cost to build.
                                              MS is in a good position and will wait for Sony to price their systems first.
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                                                Originally posted by GravY View Post
                                                MS is in a good position and will wait for Sony to price their systems first.
                                                Maybe. Although if they're going to launch Lockhart this year, they're going to need to announce it at some point... and the Lockhart story doesn't make much sense without a price attached to it. I suppose it's possible that they might announce it just before launch, like Sony did with the Pro... but mostly I expect they'll announce console hardware at least 6 months before launch... btw, we're already within that 6 month window, so my expectations are already shot.

                                                Honestly I'm not sure where these Lockhart rumors are coming from at this point. It seems like they should be alot more solid by now, so I'm kindof thinking Lockhart won't be a thing at all.
                                                Originally posted by KAC
                                                To be honest I never even found doom 3 to be scary since I have a big dick since birth.

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                                                  That means pricing is 549 and 449 which would be extremely competitive.

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                                                    No matter how powerful the new Xbox is, it's still hard for me to be excited about it since it has absolutely no exclusives.

                                                    Heck, I have a relatively middle of the line 5700XT and it's already powerful enough for most games at high quality. Why should I care?

                                                    If the PS4 is an indication, the PS5 will be well worth the price of admission. Sony's exclusives are second to none.

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                                                      XSX is great if you are like me who wants to sit back and relax and bone some games on free Xbox game pass.

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                                                        Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                        That means pricing is 549 and 449 which would be extremely competitive.
                                                        Yep, that puts it into my willing to buy price range. I might wait a few months for a couple of system updates to drop, but I'll get one.

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                                                          Originally posted by Chuck View Post
                                                          No matter how powerful the new Xbox is, it's still hard for me to be excited about it since it has absolutely no exclusives.

                                                          Heck, I have a relatively middle of the line 5700XT and it's already powerful enough for most games at high quality. Why should I care?

                                                          If the PS4 is an indication, the PS5 will be well worth the price of admission. Sony's exclusives are second to none.
                                                          Agreed. All the games that I just have to have are PS. Heck, if the PS5 turns out to be that satisfying I probably won't even upgrade my ancient desktop.

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                                                            I already have a 4K blu-ray player, and all my PS4 games are digital, so for sure I'll be going with the discless version.

                                                            I really hope Sony releases a Pro version in 3-4 years as well, I want midgen refresh to be the new norm.
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                                                              Horizon coming 2021, so I imagine maybe we get Ratchet and possibly Gran Turismo this year, or maybe Ratchet and the Spiderman game.

                                                              Shame, Horizon is what I want the most.
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                                                                I told my wife about the PS5 tonight. She informed me I'm getting one

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                                                                  Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
                                                                  Horizon coming 2021, so I imagine maybe we get Ratchet and possibly Gran Turismo this year, or maybe Ratchet and the Spiderman game.

                                                                  Shame, Horizon is what I want the most.
                                                                  HZD was one of my favorite games ever, and I wasn't even aware there was a sequel incoming lol.

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                                                                    Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                                                                    I told my wife about the PS5 tonight. She informed me I'm getting one
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                                                                      I didn’t need to say anything. My 6 year old already said we are getting one and we are

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                                                                        Originally posted by Cyko View Post
                                                                        Never let her go... never ever ever

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                                                                          I really hope developers use more often a 30fps high visuals/60fps performance mode on most AAA games.

                                                                          For me the thing holding me back from going full console is 30fps sucks, especially if the game has bad frametiming, or goes below 30fps.
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                                                                            Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
                                                                            I really hope developers use more often a 30fps high visuals/60fps performance mode on most AAA games.

                                                                            For me the thing holding me back from going full console is 30fps sucks, especially if the game has bad frametiming, or goes below 30fps.
                                                                            Nioh 2 and a couple of others I saw added an option to switch between 60fps or visual fidelity, whatever that means lol. I don't know how common that is as I don't buy many games, but for me the 60fps looks just fine. I agree, and I hope we see that in more games going forward.

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                                                                              Update: Amazon France has confirmed to TechRadar that the image being circulated with the PS5 price and release date is a fake, and not from its website. "The screenshot showing a PS5 product page on amazon.fr with a price of 499€ and a release date on November 20 is a fake and is not coming from our website," an Amazon France spokesperson told us. So, that's that.
                                                                              https://www.techradar.com/news/that-...ke-heres-proof




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                                                                              what is the chance do you think the digital edition will be able to use a external USB blu ray drive

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                                                                                Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                                                                                Nioh 2 and a couple of others I saw added an option to switch between 60fps or visual fidelity, whatever that means lol. I don't know how common that is as I don't buy many games, but for me the 60fps looks just fine. I agree, and I hope we see that in more games going forward.
                                                                                That usually means 4K or 1080p on PS4 Pro. Hopefully with PS5 the only choice is 60 fps AND visual fidelity

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                                                                                  Originally posted by SD-[Inc] View Post
                                                                                  That usually means 4K or 1080p on PS4 Pro. Hopefully with PS5 the only choice is 60 fps AND visual fidelity
                                                                                  That would be really nice Let's hope.

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