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    Originally posted by Tyr-Sog View Post
    I had both systems in my cart at walmart and couldn't reel them in

    and I don't want either of them currently...I'm just pissed I can't get a 3080
    As long as people keep scalpers in business this is what we deal with.

    https://www.companynewshq.com/compan...-uk-retailers/

    This chaos, according to a new report from Business Insider, was largely driven by “scalper” groups who competed to see how many units they could buy up before reselling the units for exorbitant prices.

    One group called ‘CrepChiefNotify’ managed to secure nearly 3500 units after using bots to amass as much stock as possible both at pre-order and when the console officially launched last week.

    The group is one of many which uses these bots to monitor retail sites to determine when stock will drop, then buy up as much stock as possible faster than any human would be able to.

    Not only is the group able to resell the most sought after stock, including high-demand fashion items and limited edition ranges, but they also sell subscriptions to their service which offers “botting guidance and access to our in-house bot-slots”.
    I thought there were some type of laws in place against such practices.

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      What a bunch of selfish pricks.

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        Originally posted by MyTMouse View Post
        Looks like the bottom memory gets very hot (approaching 100C) when the console is running with a room temp that's fairly low (22-23C)..I'd imagine that could be a problem for people that will be using the system in warmer environments or with fairly poor ventilation.

        What I'd be interested in seeing is how hot the NVMe expansion area will get...I can't tell if that area is ventilated at all or very well
        From one tear down I saw the expansion slot sits next to the fan. Air will be pulled through the expansion compartment.
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          Originally posted by OverclockN' View Post
          What a bunch of selfish pricks.
          They absolutely are.

          But who are worse are the enablers who buy from them. Stop buying from scalpers and they wont be able to scalp! When buying from a scalper YOU are the problem!

          And before anyone tries to argue the market and high demand/low supply is the problem, well this isn't food, water, or other such living necessities. Its ****ing video games. If you can't get them, just wait until you can.

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            Originally posted by Meteor_of_War View Post
            They absolutely are.

            But who are worse are the enablers who buy from them. Stop buying from scalpers and they wont be able to scalp! When buying from a scalper YOU are the problem!

            And before anyone tries to argue the market and high demand/low supply is the problem, well this isn't food, water, or other such living necessities. Its ****ing video games. If you can't get them, just wait until you can.
            That's like saying to people stop playing slot machines because they're only their to rob you of all your cash.

            You can never fix the problem by telling consumers what they should do, because most can't help themselves, sad but true state of affair of the Human race.
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              Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
              That's like saying to people stop playing slot machines because they're only their to rob you of all your cash.

              You can never fix the problem by telling consumers what they should do, because most can't help themselves, sad but true state of affair of the Human race.
              I wouldn't call gambling on slot machines exactly analogous with overpaying for something from a scalper.

              But regardless, I understand your point. Some people are just ****ing idiots and there's no reasoning with them. Got it.

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                Originally posted by Meteor_of_War View Post
                They absolutely are.

                But who are worse are the enablers who buy from them. Stop buying from scalpers and they wont be able to scalp! When buying from a scalper YOU are the problem!

                And before anyone tries to argue the market and high demand/low supply is the problem, well this isn't food, water, or other such living necessities. Its ****ing video games. If you can't get them, just wait until you can.
                Well yeah, I was just trying to be a bit nicer about it.
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                  Originally posted by Meteor_of_War View Post
                  They absolutely are.

                  But who are worse are the enablers who buy from them. Stop buying from scalpers and they wont be able to scalp! When buying from a scalper YOU are the problem!

                  And before anyone tries to argue the market and high demand/low supply is the problem, well this isn't food, water, or other such living necessities. Its ****ing video games. If you can't get them, just wait until you can.
                  Agreed, but that seems to be a big trend now. Nobody can ever wait for anything, there is no patience any more. Everyone has to have everything RIGHT NOW. But maybe that's a different topic too.

                  Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
                  That's like saying to people stop playing slot machines because they're only their to rob you of all your cash
                  Eh, somewhat related. People SHOULD stop playing slot machines because they rob you of all your money.

                  But people don't really do what's good for them, they do whatever feels good in the moment and never worry about long term. Whether it's a video card or trying to win big playing a slot machine.

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                    Ironically, my dad just won $900 from a slot machine couple weeks ago, and on his birthday too.

                    As soon as he won he cashed out and left immediately lol.

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                      Originally posted by OverclockN' View Post
                      Agreed, but that seems to be a big trend now. Nobody can ever wait for anything, there is no patience any more. Everyone has to have everything RIGHT NOW. But maybe that's a different topic too.



                      Eh, somewhat related. People SHOULD stop playing slot machines because they rob you of all your money.

                      But people don't really do what's good for them, they do whatever feels good in the moment and never worry about long term. Whether it's a video card or trying to win big playing a slot machine.
                      That's my point though, people don't make smart choices, and some seem incapable of making smart choices.

                      basically all I'm trying to say in a round about way, is find where the Bot farms are, and drop some nukes on them.
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                        Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                        As long as people keep scalpers in business this is what we deal with.

                        https://www.companynewshq.com/compan...-uk-retailers/



                        I thought there were some type of laws in place against such practices.
                        That's an example of where I wish some hackers would just destroy their online infrastructure

                        Originally posted by GravY View Post
                        From one tear down I saw the expansion slot sits next to the fan. Air will be pulled through the expansion compartment.
                        I dunno, I haven't seen anything clear that shows airflow through there...I'm sure there is but it almost looks like it's a contained area with little to no airflow. I'm just surprised that nobody has clearly shown that area and discussed cooling (from what I've seen)

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                          Originally posted by Meteor_of_War View Post
                          Ironically, my dad just won $900 from a slot machine couple weeks ago, and on his birthday too.

                          As soon as he won he cashed out and left immediately lol.
                          Your dad is a smart man!! Big difference between setting a limit and doing it for entertainment and what many others do.

                          Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
                          basically all I'm trying to say in a round about way, is find where the Bot farms are, and drop some nukes on them.
                          100% agree

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                            LMAO

                            Some PS5 owners are accidentally playing PS4 versions of their games.

                            ony’s PlayStation 5 can download and play both the PS4 and PS5 versions of games.
                            Some PS5 owners are accidentally playing the PS4 version of the game instead of the next-gen version because the console doesn’t make it very clear which version you’re playing.
                            There’s only one icon for every game on the dashboard even if you have both versions installed, so make sure you choose the right option from the menu before you play.
                            One of my favorite features of the PlayStation 5 user interface is apparently confusing some early adopters.

                            Many of the new games coming out this fall are launching with last-generation versions and new-generation versions, such as Assassin’s Creed Valhalla, Watch Dogs: Legion, and Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War. The PS5 is backward compatible with a vast majority of PS4 games, which means both versions of the game will be playable on your brand new console. The problem is that unless you know what to look for, you might be playing the wrong version.

                            As spotted by VG247, Activision Support tweeted out the following helpful hint on Saturday, just one day after Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War launched on PS4, PS5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, and PC:


                            In order to save room and make the UI less cluttered, Sony stores every version of any one game under the same icon on the dashboard. In other words, even if you have the PS4 and PS5 version of Call of Duty or Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales installed, you will still have a single icon for that game. In order to switch between versions of the game, you can follow the steps above, but the PS5 apparently does not make that clear enough, and thus many PS5 owners have been playing the last-generation versions of their games on accident.

                            Unless you’re paying close attention to the text at the top of the screen when you start up a game, there is no clear indication that you’re playing one version of a game or the other. Plus, by the time you’re actually playing a game, the only real differences between the versions are visual, so unless you know the difference between 30FPS and 60FPS, there’s a good chance that you’ll never be any the wiser that you are playing a PS4 game.

                            This also goes to show just how different this generational upgrade is from previous ones. The first PS4 games don’t hold a candle to the video games that came out near the end of the generation, but the graphical improvements were obvious right away. That’s not always the case on the PS5, which focuses more on higher frame rates and sharper resolution. These upgrades aren’t going to be as readily apparent, especially if you have an older TV.


                            Activision Support
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                            14. Nov.
                            To make sure you’re playing the next-gen version of #BlackOpsColdWar on PS5:

                            1. Highlight the game tile on the Dashboard

                            2. Scroll down and highlight “Play”

                            3. Select the 3 dots and open the menu

                            4. Select “PS5 | Full | Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War”

                            5. Launch and enjoy!
                            Source: https://bgr.com/2020/11/16/ps5-games...on-how-to-fix/


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                              Apparently the scalpers are taking the moral high ground . Personally I find it hard to believe that Sony would be okay with someone else making huge profits off of their IP? Wouldn't it technically fall under IP theft?

                              ...it defended its actions and claimed that many of its members were struggling financially but could now “put food on the table” thanks to PS5 profits.
                              https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...-ps5-consoles/
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                                Originally posted by Dungeoncrawler View Post
                                Apparently the scalpers are taking the moral high ground . Personally I find it hard to believe that Sony would be okay with someone else making huge profits off of their IP? Wouldn't it technically fall under IP theft?



                                https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...-ps5-consoles/
                                What a load of utter BS

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                                  Finished Spider Man Miles Morales. Wow what a great game albeit very short compared to the first. Still got a lot of sides left to do. But really enjoyed it. Also it is truly a pure RTX showcase. Better than anything on PC tbh. 9.5/10.

                                  On nVidia hardware the game would truly shine.

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                                    Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                    Finished Spider Man Miles Morales. Wow what a great game albeit very short compared to the first. Still got a lot of sides left to do. But really enjoyed it. Also it is truly a pure RTX showcase. Better than anything on PC tbh. 9.5/10.

                                    On nVidia hardware the game would truly shine.
                                    I spent 6 weeks leading up to release crunching to get RT ready!

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                                      Dude whatever you did was amazing! Honestly even though the frame rate was low but how it is hidden a bit behind the blur etc is amazing. Also the effects and lighting was movie like. Many times my wife thought I was watching an animation during the cutscenes. Just absolutely phenomenal. I will be booting up original Spider Man to see how much work you guys have done on that and if it also has RT. I have not read anything about it.

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                                        What has the battery life been like on the DualSense controller? I've seen figures all over the place and most of them aren't very good (similar to DualShock 4)

                                        When I saw a few teardowns of the controller the battery pack looked massive but it's only 1560mAh which isn't much considering the size. I've seen cellphone batteries the same size with like 2300mAh or more. I'm guessing it's because the casing is fairly large

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                                          Mine easily lasts 12–14 hours before charge. For example I finished Spider Man in mostly 1 day - about 6 hours playthrough without a charge. Before that my son played for about 2 hours as well and controller still has maybe 2 bars. This is about same as a DS4. I didn’t feel any difference in needing to charge more often.

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                                            Originally posted by Java Cool Dude View Post
                                            I spent 6 weeks leading up to release crunching to get RT ready!
                                            Bring it to PC so we can enjoy it on a real gaming experience please
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                                              We are doomed. I would like to ask these people if they would go to the same level of extreme to help another human being?

                                              PlayStation Fans So Desperate for PS5 Stock They Brought Their Beds to GameStop
                                              https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020...ds_to_gamestop

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                                                You guys have no idea. PS5 is selling here for 1000 dollars and still you will be hard pressed to find a unit.

                                                Meanwhile XSX is available everywhere and routinely restocked.

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                                                  Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                  You guys have no idea. PS5 is selling here for 1000 dollars and still you will be hard pressed to find a unit.
                                                  So??

                                                  You know what, you're right! I have no idea what it's like to want a game console bad enough to bring my bed to wait in line.

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                                                    Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                    You guys have no idea. PS5 is selling here for 1000 dollars and still you will be hard pressed to find a unit.

                                                    Meanwhile XSX is available everywhere and routinely restocked.
                                                    Whenever I've looked online, both consoles are always out of stock. I just did another search and can't find stock anywhere *shrugs*.

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                                                      Forget the hype. This launch is weak on must have games. I can wait. Probably get my early next year and avoid all the stress and headaches.

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                                                        True. I can probably sell my unit for 800 right now as I have played through Spider Man.
                                                        Last edited by KAC; Nov 29, 2020, 07:56 PM.

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                                                          Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                          True. I can probably sell my unit for 800 right now as I have played through Spider Man.
                                                          Probably more like $1K sir

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                                                            Originally posted by Dungeoncrawler View Post
                                                            Probably more like $1K sir
                                                            Just screenshotted off ebay 2 minutes ago, set to highest price first...


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                                                              Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                              You guys have no idea. PS5 is selling here for 1000 dollars and still you will be hard pressed to find a unit.

                                                              Meanwhile XSX is available everywhere and routinely restocked.
                                                              Is that a difference in in demand or supply?
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                                                              To be honest I never even found doom 3 to be scary since I have a big dick since birth.

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                                                                Brother in law's friend sold two PS5s for 1000+ea on eBay.
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                                                                  I can but I won’t out of principle.

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                                                                    Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                                    I can but I won’t out of principle.
                                                                    Is your principle fear of potentially homicidal offspring if you did?

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                                                                      If I can get one for retail, great.

                                                                      If I can't, guess what, no harm done. Launch units are usually flawed one way or another so it's better to wait a bit anyway.

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                                                                        Originally posted by Chuck View Post
                                                                        If I can get one for retail, great.



                                                                        If I can't, guess what, no harm done. Launch units are usually flawed one way or another so it's better to wait a bit anyway.
                                                                        I always hear that, and do believe it to some extent.

                                                                        However I still have and regularly use my launch day PS2.

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                                                                          ps5 pro to have dual graphic chips?

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                                                                            Originally posted by Dungeoncrawler View Post
                                                                            ps5 pro to have dual graphic chips?
                                                                            No, that's the PS5 Pro Pro.
                                                                            Originally posted by KAC
                                                                            To be honest I never even found doom 3 to be scary since I have a big dick since birth.

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                                                                              Originally posted by SubCog View Post
                                                                              No, that's the PS5 Pro Pro.

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                                                                                Originally posted by Dungeoncrawler View Post
                                                                                ps5 pro to have dual graphic chips?
                                                                                Lol no.
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                                                                                  Originally posted by GravY View Post
                                                                                  Lol no.
                                                                                  PS5 Pro' dual GPU concept
                                                                                  The patent, titled "Scalable Game Console CPU/GPU Design for Home Console and Cloud Gaming" describes a concept console with two GPUs and two CPUs. It uses those extra chips to divide and conquer — letting one GPU handle HDMI frame output after receiving info from the other GPU.
                                                                                  https://www.laptopmag.com/news/ps5-p...lready-excited

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