New retro console games

[SubCog]

I'm really fascinated by this trend of making homebrew games for retro consoles. I'll post some examples in this thread.

[NES]Micro Mages, very fun game, movement reminds me alot of super meat boy. I played 3 player at PRGE this year. Super impressive.
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Cool video about how they fit it in 40kb.
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[SubCog]

Sydney Hunter games, coming out on nearly everything, including SNES, Master System, Colecovision, C64, etc. (also switch, xbone, ps4)

This is a venture from a youtuber named Gamester81, along with a team of devs. I saw him showcase the switch version at PGRE this year. Game looks great, and takes cues from many games, but its biggest influence is Montezuma's revenge.

Master system version:
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Switch version:
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[SubCog]

[Genesis]Wolfenstein 3d - Amazing port that really shouldn't be able to exist. I don't think it's been released on a cartridge at this point, but apparently runs great on an everdrive.
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Side-by-side comparison against the SNES version. Keep in mind that the SNES version uses the FX2 chipset, while the Genesis version has no special chips.
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[SubCog]

[Atari 2600]Pac-Man 4k - Amazing modern port that fits in the same 4k constraints as the official Pac-Man game for the 2600.
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Compare against the original Pac-Man for 2600, prolly the worst pacman game ever.
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Also check out Pac-Man 8k, which really takes it to the next level. Although I believe it's a different author, but clearly using many of the same tricks as teh 4k version.
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[Seyiji]

Oh hai..

Also..

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Also on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/837190/TANGLEWOOD/

[SubCog]

Here's an in-progress version of Doom. Runs surprisingly smooth. Hopefully this is real and it actually launches someday.
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I modded a controller to play wolfenstein with shoulder strafe buttons. Hopefully Doom will be able to use it too?

[SubCog]

More Genesis games:

Xeno Crisis, amazing twin-stick shooter, looks alot like Smash TV:
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Paprium, which is on an 80mb cart:
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[SubCog]

Also, there's a homebrew version of Doom for 3D0 that runs alot better than the official version:

OptidDoom
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Compare to the official 3D0 port, for reference:
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[OverclockN']

Xeno Crisis looks like amazing fun! Man, I really like Smash TV, so that one hits home.

[DeathKnight]

Compare to the official 3D0 port, for reference:
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Here's an interesting story from the developer who did the 3DO port and why it was bad (short story: not enough time)

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[Crawdaddy79]

^Interesting story about typical corporate shenanigans, of which I was unaware in 1996. All I knew was the 3DO port was awful. Compared to a game like PO'ed it was clearly not a hardware limitation that held it back.

The Jaguar port was very well done in comparison.

EDIT: Still watching. Neat to see the person who essentially built Killing Time. That was a fantastic game. Used FMV sequences and integrated it into the map so that live action ghosts looked and acted like holograms.

[SubCog]

^Interesting story about typical corporate shenanigans, of which I was unaware in 1996. All I knew was the 3DO port was awful. Compared to a game like PO'ed it was clearly not a hardware limitation that held it back.

The Jaguar port was very well done in comparison.

EDIT: Still watching. Neat to see the person who essentially built Killing Time. That was a fantastic game. Used FMV sequences and integrated it into the map so that live action ghosts looked and acted like holograms.

So the Saturn had multiple games that released early in sub-par states, and then later released improved versions of. Virtual Fighter, Daytona, and maybe a few others? Maybe 3D0 should have done that too.

[Trunks0]

So the Saturn had multiple games that released early in sub-par states, and then later released improved versions of. Virtual Fighter, Daytona, and maybe a few others? Maybe 3D0 should have done that too.

The 3DO wasn't a success, so there probably wasn't enough of a call for it.

[SubCog]

Here's an in-progress version of Doom. Runs surprisingly smooth. Hopefully this is real and it actually launches someday.
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Well shoot, it's not really real afterall... turns out it's doing most of the game's processing on the FPGA on the mega everdrive. So it's not a hyper-optimized port running on the Genesis hardware. Cool project, but I was hoping for something different, and frankly something impossible.

[Sasquach]

[Genesis]Wolfenstein 3d - Amazing port that really shouldn't be able to exist. I don't think it's been released on a cartridge at this point, but apparently runs great on an everdrive.
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Side-by-side comparison against the SNES version. Keep in mind that the SNES version uses the FX2 chipset, while the Genesis version has no special chips.
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Didnt wolf3d snes come out before any of the super FX chips? I thought it was strictly mode7 effects.

It was DOOM That uses the FX2 chip, and surprisingly was a better port than some of its more powerful counterparts.

[Mangler]

There's no fancy chips in the wolf3d cart.

[SubCog]

Didnt wolf3d snes come out before any of the super FX chips? I thought it was strictly mode7 effects.

It was DOOM That uses the FX2 chip, and surprisingly was a better port than some of its more powerful counterparts.

Oh, you're right. I'm getting it mixed up with Doom.

[Nascar24]

My last couple of days retro purchases, heavily marked down at Walmart.





And now both are out of stock, I was surprised they lasted 2 days in stock as the markdowns were more then 50 percent. The Atgames setup looks like it can do alot as well as being wireless.

[borat]

Damn, those are both awesome! Personally I think I'd prefer separate joysticks. I get that it's meant to be like actual arcades, but that's a bit unwieldy. Are you gonna put it on a coffee table? I'd even consider some sort of standup platform if you wanna be super authentic.

Still, awesome!

[Nascar24]

Damn, those are both awesome! Personally I think I'd prefer separate joysticks. I get that it's meant to be like actual arcades, but that's a bit unwieldy. Are you gonna put it on a coffee table? I'd even consider some sort of standup platform if you wanna be super authentic.

Still, awesome!

Going to decorate my living room with retro., I have a small 2 chair bar type setup I'm going to stick the small Galaga cabinet on and I will see and not sure how well it will work out but I have a double wide foot stool that is the same height as the love seat/couch I'm going to set it on and connect the wireless station that comes with it to the 65" TV in the living room. Feel that might be to low but I guess I will see. I also have a sturdy folding type table that might make it better. I also like the ability to use this for my PinballFX games on steam with the buttons on the side like a pinball machine. I can connect it to my PC through USB if I want to use it for games for steam.

Also the plus with the duel sticks they have them so you can use it for dual stick games such as Robotron and smashTV.

[SubCog]

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[Nascar24]

Just got the table top Galaga and for $49 it’s pretty good, would not spend the retail price of $129 on it or even higher for some of the different game ones they have. First game I played I believe I got further then I ever did playing it on my PC, classic arcade controls for the win.

[Nascar24]

Wholly crap CoinOPS for PC is completely awesome! Didn't even know it existed till I bought this atGames dual stick setup.

[Nascar24]

Received the atgames dual arcade stick & trackball today, while the Bluetooth connectivity was a pain to initially get working the $99(regular $229)price was more then worth it for awesome arcade retro action with the BYO built in. Will give it a try on steam with the pinball flipper buttons and PinballFX3. Although I believe the Coinops presentation in windows is better with all that extra PC horsepower

[borat]

I actually quite like the idea of a bar type table for the joysticks with some optional stools for arcade authenticity but I assume you're talking about a bar that doesn't move? Also, I imagine since it's a living room that people would rather sit on the couch to which I say PFFT!

[Nascar24]

I actually quite like the idea of a bar type table for the joysticks with some optional stools for arcade authenticity but I assume you're talking about a bar that doesn't move? Also, I imagine since it's a living room that people would rather sit on the couch to which I say PFFT!

Yea it’s just a bar type table off the kitchen, but it is actually part of the living room so you can also watch the TV after playing a game of galaga, would like to get the Pac-Man table top for the other chair but would never pay the actual retail prices for it, I see the Ms Pac-Man is going for $169 and included Pac-Man but no way I would pay that for one of these.

[Nascar24]

Back on the retro fun kick I would like to get a hold of one of these. Although definitely not cheap at $699. The other issue I would have is where I would put it. Also like everything this year, not easy to just go and purchase at the moment either.

[Nascar24]

Back on the retro fun kick I would like to get a hold of one of these. Although definitely not cheap at $699. The other issue I would have is where I would put it. Also like everything this year, not easy to just go and purchase at the moment either.

WTF, These go as quick as Video cards, tried picking one up today and it sold out before I could pay. Less then a minute. I really don't need it though as its probably best it did at $850 shipped! I enjoy my pinball though.

[SubCog]

If anyone wants a cheaper way to do video pinball, it's worth noting that you can now run Pinball FX3 on a raspberry pi. Just sayin.

[Nascar24]

If anyone wants a cheaper way to do video pinball, it's worth noting that you can now run Pinball FX3 on a raspberry pi. Just sayin.

I was looking for the real experience. I play alot of pinball just on my PC. Honestly at $850 there is nothing close to this price at this time with the expandability the atgames pinball has.

[Silent-Runner]

you could play some GameMan

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[SubCog]

Doom 32x Resurrection. Community project that rebuilds Doom for 32x, with performance improvements, content enhancements, really a comprehensive improvement.

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Newest version includes 2-player multiplayer, with the Zero Tolerance link cable.
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We've seen these Doom projects now for 3D0 and 32x. I'd love to see similar projects for the PS1 and Saturn especially, as both of those consoles should be powerful enough to run really great versions of Doom.

[Mangler]

The ps1 version of doom was pretty good though, it was the saturn version that was a train wreck.

[SubCog]

The ps1 version of doom was pretty good though, it was the saturn version that was a train wreck.

It was okay for the time, but it's a terrible way to play Doom today.

I expect that the PS1 should be capable of a smooth 60fps version of Doom, if it were coded with love.

[Mangler]

It would probably have texture warping in that case though, AFAIK, the reason why doom ran as it did on the ps1 was because they used cpu rendering.

[SubCog]

It would probably have texture warping in that case though, AFAIK, the reason why doom ran as it did on the ps1 was because they used cpu rendering.

Yup, and I'd love to see a PS1 version of Doom running at 60fps with texture warping.

[Trunks0]

It was okay for the time, but it's a terrible way to play Doom today.

I expect that the PS1 should be capable of a smooth 60fps version of Doom, if it were coded with love.

If they had used an engine, or made an engine, built for the PS1 then yes. But instead they kinda ported and adapted from the Jaguar version of Doom.

Would be kinda cool to see someone do a home-brewed version and see if they could pull off a better port of the game.

[SubCog]

PS1 handled a pretty great version of Quake2, even with 4 player support. Just sayin'.

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[jimjobob]

Question for all you retro collectors. I have a launch day Dreamcast (plays burned discs w/o having to have been modded) along with 34 actual games, maybe 30 burned games, 2 light guns, the fishing contorller, keyboard, vga addapter 2 rumble packs and 5 VMU's. What would the current value of that collection be?

[SubCog]

A Dreamcast today is what, $100? Games seem to be $20+. Of course, it's always tricky unloading a large collection at once.