Official Nintendo Switch Discussion

[Nascar24]

I think they shouldn't call it either a home console or portable one and play into their weaknesses and explain what it is that way: No it's not a home console because of the form factor and it is weaker than a Nintendo home console could or should be. No it's not a portable console because it's just not quite portable enough, hasn't got a long enough battery life etcetera. It's a hybrid and has compromises because of that. Something like that. Playing either the home or portable console card will get them flack either way.

Just looking at it, to me it seems like a handheld. Will be interesting to see if it does any better then the WiiU. I think they would be much better off pushing it as a Handheld at a lower price as they own the market already.

[Meteor_of_War]

I view the Switch as a home console with the OPTION of portability. I think its primarily a home console though, and not an equal hybrid.

This is reinforced by the fact it will most likely be completely replacing the Wii U but not replacing the 3DS, at least not yet.

[The PyroPath]

I view the Switch as a home console with the OPTION of portability. I think its primarily a home console though, and not an equal hybrid.

This is reinforced by the fact it will most likely be completely replacing the Wii U but not replacing the 3DS, at least not yet.

Which I think they'll do in about 18/24 months by announcing a Switch mobile only SKU. That is, if the sales of Switch are good enough.

[Sasquach]

I have a Wii U. I am going to stop buying games for it immediately. I also have a 3DS. There are still lots of good games for it that I don't have yet so I will probably keep buying them. That should tell you the state of the Wii U library...

I'll get a Switch if for no other reason than it's what the Wii U should have been and it will have Breath of the Wild at launch.

I might eventually get star fox zero (even though its yet another remake, and the wonky control scheme seems a detriment rather than an innovation) plus because they didn't sell a whole lot of them theres still packages bundled with the star fox guard which seems fun

That's likely my last major Wii-U purchase though. Last thing I got was Tokyo Mirage Sessions, but I haven't opened it up yet lol.

[Dave]

http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/3317...ntendo-switch/

And here we go. Borderlands 3 wont be on the switch.

[|MaguS|]

I view the Switch as a home console with the OPTION of portability. I think its primarily a home console though, and not an equal hybrid.

This is reinforced by the fact it will most likely be completely replacing the Wii U but not replacing the 3DS, at least not yet.

They also said that the 3DS wasn't replacing the DS...

The Switch will be Nintendos only platform come the end of 2017. They cannot support two platforms with their output. Just look at the Wii U.

[lazyx]

Many companies can't support 2 different game systems. Look at the failure of Vita\PSTV. IMO switch will replace the 3DS in a couple years, probably with a the release revision of the switch.

[KAC]

Another failure in the making. Congrats Nintendo.

[SirBaron]

http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/3317...ntendo-switch/

And here we go. Borderlands 3 wont be on the switch.

Not yet, but theres a chance borderlands pre-seaquel may.

Either way don't expect That much western third party stuff it's guaranteed to get a ton of Japanese games, because this console is basically for Japanese first.

[ShaidarHaran]

Not yet, but theres a chance borderlands pre-seaquel may.

Either way don't expect That much western third party stuff it's guaranteed to get a ton of Japanese games, because this console is basically for Japanese first.

Yep. Both the 3DS and the Vita had that strength and that's basically why I have them. Of course the Switch gets the benefit of the attention of all of Nintendo's internal development teams so it *should* see more games than say the Wii U given the same life span.

[Nascar24]

This Launch has fail written all over it to me.

http://www.vg247.com/2017/01/20/nint...ity-at-launch/

[Meteor_of_War]

This Launch has fail written all over it to me.

http://www.vg247.com/2017/01/20/nint...ity-at-launch/

I understand the complaint about no BC, that's always disappointing, but do we really need another device that plays Netflix and media apps? I don't really see anyone not buying it because of that.

[TenFour]

I don't think the BC thing will hurt them badly, since so few people have Wii U's anyway. They will likely port most of the big games that Wii U skippers missed. They've already ported them to 3DS in many cases, so they seem big on ports these days. A 3DS port is probably more work than a Switch port, since the 3DS requires a lot of downgrading, optimization, and tweaking a 3D renderer in the code.

I'm sure VC is coming--no way they would ignore that income stream. I hope they don't pull a Nintendo and make us re-buy VC games again. I don't mind paying a couple bucks to transfer VC games, but full price is just mean.

And I'm sure Netflix is coming. It's on everything.

[The PyroPath]

Nah, at least not for me. If I want to use a tablet, I have a bigger one which is also full HD. If I want to watch it on the go I need a connected device like a phone and when AI want to watch it out TV I have literally 4 other devices capable enough.

[Nascar24]

I understand the complaint about no BC, that's always disappointing, but do we really need another device that plays Netflix and media apps? I don't really see anyone not buying it because of that.

In today's connected world it should be a given, the switch really isn't offering much at launch, and already hearing 3rd party support is lacking because it has to much weak sauce going on.

[logical]

I guess Im not mad about BC cause I dont have any WiiU games anyway.

I am sure at some point netflix will come but I dont need it... its on everything already.

I still think I am going to pick it up sometime after launch to see what the initial fallout will be. Breath of the wind really is the system seller and if it wasnt launching with the system I doubt it would get even half of the sales its going to get.

[Meteor_of_War]

In today's connected world it should be a given, the switch really isn't offering much at launch, and already hearing 3rd party support is lacking because it has to much weak sauce going on.

It's just not necessary. When are you going to be in a situation with your Switch where you want to stream some content and there's no other devices available? Never.

I don't know why anyone would waste their time complaining about this.

[Nascar24]

It's just not necessary. When are you going to be in a situation with your Switch where you want to stream some content and there's no other devices available? Never.

I don't know why anyone would waste their time complaining about this.

Already to many excuses going on, because it should have been ready at launch, I don't see anything different between this launch and the WiiU launch, online capabilities are garbage and they plan to charge lol, it's just one of many complaints already.

[ShaidarHaran]

What I would like to see from the Switch is some kind of concession to VC game owners so that we don't have to purchase VC games that we already own all over again. Wii VC games did not transfer to Wii U, if they do it again with the Switch I'm going to reconsider my support of this company.

[TenFour]

Regarding paying for online play...does that imply that they will be running the servers for games, or only matchmaking? No more ridiculous lag because my Splatoon games are so often hosted off someone's console in Japan?

[Mangler]

Speaking of online, has nintendo clarified if the phone app is needed for matchmaking or not?

[ShaidarHaran]

Speaking of online, has nintendo clarified if the phone app is needed for matchmaking or not?

Nintendo doesn't clarify things. Probably have to wait until product/service availability to find out.

[Omega53]

Speaking of online, has nintendo clarified if the phone app is needed for matchmaking or not?

Nintendo doesn't clarify things. Probably have to wait until product/service availability to find out.

Phone is needed for matchmaking

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...1335496&page=1

[Nascar24]

Phone is needed for matchmaking

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...1335496&page=1

Oh my. lol! What other silliness am I going to read on why I wont buy the switch!

[ShaidarHaran]

Phone is needed for matchmaking

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthre...1335496&page=1

It was a tongue-in-cheek statement.

More bad news:

Monthly game download

Subscribers will get to download and play a Nintendo Entertainment System™ (NES) or Super Nintendo Entertainment System™ (Super NES) game (with newly-added online play) for free for a month.

http://www.nintendo.com/switch/online-service/

I haven't cared about Nintendo after the SNES, recently though I've been on a nostalgic kick so I've been playing lots of Nintendo games, and my I've played more on my 3DS in the last month than any other platform. Sucks being a fan of games that are exclusive to platforms controlled by such a horrible company...

[Mangler]

So what's next, are they going to announce that you need a capture card for the share capabilities?

[ShaidarHaran]

So what next, are they going to announce that you need a capture card for the share capabilities?

No, you'll need expressed, written consent of Nintendo to have live, in-home viewings only, and with a maximum of 5 viewers present. Recordings are not allowed, streaming is not allowed, and each is punishable by death.

[Sasquach]

Nintendo needs to fire its old hat executives, hire some new blood, and get with the times. They're stuck in a state of 'it worked in the past, so it should work now' mantra.

[SubCog]

Nintendo needs to fire its old hat executives, hire some new blood, and get with the times. They're stuck in a state of 'it worked in the past, so it should work now' mantra.

This is gonna sound super racist, but Nintendo needs to hire a bunch of white people.

Seriously, if you're looking for signs that Nintendo is reforming into a healthy and modern company, you can look at Sony's Playstation group for an example. They have plenty of Japanese talent, but they also hired a ton of people in the US and Europe. Or look at Sega at their prime.

Nintendo does have a US group, but they really only do marketing and localization. Reggie has no decision-making power for anything important. Contrast that with Sony of America or Europe, who's executives have budget and autonomy to hire or build game studios, make highly strategic decisions about games and other initiatives.

Nintendo's problem is that they're too Japanese, and have only Japanese perspectives on everything. Occasionally they hire a western studio to make a game for them, but Nintendo has Japanese people watching over every part of the process, often intervening in the creative vision.

Nintendo will never rise to their potential until you see them empower their US and European branches... this may never happen, btw... Nintendo's leadership would rather commit seppuka than have foreigners help them become massively successful.

[Sazar]

This is gonna sound super racist, but Nintendo needs to hire a bunch of white people.

Seriously, if you're looking for signs that Nintendo is reforming into a healthy and modern company, you can look at Sony's Playstation group for an example. They have plenty of Japanese talent, but they also hired a ton of people in the US and Europe. Or look at Sega at their prime.

Nintendo does have a US group, but they really only do marketing and localization. Reggie has no decision-making power for anything important. Contrast that with Sony of America or Europe, who's executives have budget and autonomy to hire or build game studios, make highly strategic decisions about games and other initiatives.

Nintendo's problem is that they're too Japanese, and have only Japanese perspectives on everything. Occasionally they hire a western studio to make a game for them, but Nintendo has Japanese people watching over every part of the process, often intervening in the creative vision.

Nintendo will never rise to their potential until you see them empower their US and European branches... this may never happen, btw... Nintendo's leadership would rather commit seppuka than have foreigners help them become massively successful.

I, for one, am perfectly fine without a world infested with DLC's and microtransactions and half-assed games.

That said, having a slightly different perspective could work wonders.

[|MaguS|]

I, for one, am perfectly fine without a world infested with DLC's and microtransactions and half-assed games.

That said, having a slightly different perspective could work wonders.

Yeah it's so much better having to mail a save file in to fix it rather then just being able to patch it.

Nintendo is so out of touch with tech and the current times.

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[jimmt]

On our ever quest to buy the NES classic when I go to Wal-mart we always check the Nintendo area of the game section. Yesterday a Nintendo rep was in there reorganizing the area. They removed the demo unit of the Wii-U and all hardware. Games have been reduced to mostly 3DS games. There is a new flyer for the Switch with a date.

One thing did hit me as I look at the games and that is BC is also a factor that hurt the Wii-U. There is still a large library of new Wii games being sold along side Wii-U games. Furthermore, the library is larger. Maybe BC is not a bad thing right now for the switch; at least not being able to play Wii/Wii-U games.

I agree that Nintendo needs to embrace Sony business model and listen to other regional branches and break away from Japan more.

[jimjobob]

Have any of you seen any thing about the ability to purchase extra docking stations?

[GravY]

Have any of you seen any thing about the ability to purchase extra docking stations?

You'll have to cough up like 90.00 for one. Total joke.

[jimjobob]

You'll have to cough up like 90.00 for one. Total joke.

Where did you see that and i might be ok with $90. For aditional bases.

[GravY]

Where did you see that and i might be ok with $90. For aditional bases.

There's nothing OK with the cost of that.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.forbe...android-google

[SubCog]

Nintendo's doing everything wrong at this point. They need to be aggressive about rapidly building the Switch player base, and instead they're focused on maximizing margins.

I'm not saying they should sell the console at a loss, but there are obvious things they can do to make it much more attractive. Like including a pack-in game. We all know that 12Switch is doomed as a stand-alone release, and they're missing an opportunity to add value to the console by not bundling it. Or how about bundling in a couple of popular virtual console games, like Mario Galaxy or Donkey Kong Country Returns? They can do that without costing them any $$ at all.

Remember the rumors that Splatoon was the pack-in game for launch? That would have been absolutely genius, as it would add real value and ensure a massive online audience. It would make Splatoon for Switch into the original xbox's Halo: a massively popular game that the entire player base rallies around and drives the console moving forward. They could have launched with Splatoon Remastered and then saved Splatoon 2 for next year.

I suspect that their options are limited, because their online infrastructure is so far behind... it may be that virtual console isn't ready yet either. Maybe they priced the console high because they know they won't be selling at high volumes until christmas, and they won't have their online infrastructure or virtual console ready until then anyway? They know that Zelda will sell x number of consoles by itself (it certainly seems like they're depending on that), and then put together mass-appeal bundles for Christmas? If that's their plan, then that makes sense to me... but I suspect that they don't really have a master plan here, and that Nintendo leadership is simply out-of-touch, and the Switch is doomed to fizzle like the WiiU... the difference is that consumers are already primed to suspect the Switch to fail, so once it starts to smell like a failure it will collapse immediately.

[jimjobob]

There's nothing OK with the cost of that.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.forbe...android-google

the hidden costs of my ps4.

Original ps4 $400.

2nd controller $65. (how dare nintendo charge $70. for a controller)

HDD upgrade $80.

PS4 pro $400.

PSVR $400.

PS camera $60.

PS move controllers $100.

stand and charging base for my PSVR and controllers $50.

Thats a "real cost of $1555" for the ps4

And then that greedy Sony makes me actually pay for games to play on it. And on top of all that, I have to pay to play online.

[Mangler]

I don't think many people will opt for another pair of joycons, they look extremely uncomfortable to use as a regular controller.

[jimjobob]

I don't think many people will opt for another pair of joycons, they look extremely uncomfortable to use as a regular controller.

Will have to wait to see, but I remember playing Twilight Princess on the original Wii and loving the fact that I could lie down on the couch and just rest each hand in a comfortable position while playing rather than clutching a controller in both hands.