Official Nintendo Switch Discussion

[Sasquach]

IMO they should have included Mario Galaxy 2 AND Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury for the price they're asking.

If they did that they would have been getting a lot more excitement and praise from people.

But Nintendo being Nintendo.

Also, I think a lot more work went into porting those games over to the switch then people think, they had to make widescreen support for the Mario Sunshine game and make all of the controls specifically for the Switch. Nintendo obsesses over how their games control and feel so it probably took a while.

The only way I'm buying Super Mario 3D All-Stars is if it was $30 off which will never happen because, Nintendo

its also never happening because its a limited run until March 2021

[SirBaron]

IMO they should have included Mario Galaxy 2 AND Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury for the price they're asking.

If they did that they would have been getting a lot more excitement and praise from people.

But Nintendo being Nintendo.

Also, I think a lot more work went into porting those games over to the switch then people think, they had to make widescreen support for the Mario Sunshine game and make all of the controls specifically for the Switch. Nintendo obsesses over how their games control and feel so it probably took a while.

The only way I'm buying Super Mario 3D All-Stars is if it was $30 off which will never happen because, Nintendo

That's minimal work not a lot more work.

They have the source code for all of their games, the work they did is ****ing beyond embarrasing.

Activision, one of the worst publishers in recent times that make EA look like a saint, remade Crash bandicoot trilogy AND spyro trilogy. Not just one game, but 6 games.

40 for each trilogy.

Nintendo just does direct ports, changes the rendering resolution and fixes the HUD elements to not stretch and charges 60 for it.

Goddamn I hate Nintendo, they do make some good hardware but it's like they do piss me off often with their backwards stuff they often do.

[Cynicalking]

IMO they should have included Mario Galaxy 2 AND Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury for the price they're asking.

If they did that they would have been getting a lot more excitement and praise from people.

But Nintendo being Nintendo.

Also, I think a lot more work went into porting those games over to the switch then people think, they had to make widescreen support for the Mario Sunshine game and make all of the controls specifically for the Switch. Nintendo obsesses over how their games control and feel so it probably took a while.

The only way I'm buying Super Mario 3D All-Stars is if it was $30 off which will never happen because, Nintendo

If a fricking emulator can manage to do both widescreen and 60 fps in Sunshine, I don't see how it can be that difficult for Nintendo. Applies to Mario 64 too, which had widescreen and 60 fps mods , not to mention model replacers, little time after the source leaked.

[SubCog]

That's minimal work not a lot more work.

They have the source code for all of their games, the work they did is ****ing beyond embarrasing.

Activision, one of the worst publishers in recent times that make EA look like a saint, remade Crash bandicoot trilogy AND spyro trilogy. Not just one game, but 6 games.

40 for each trilogy.

Nintendo just does direct ports, changes the rendering resolution and fixes the HUD elements to not stretch and charges 60 for it.

Goddamn I hate Nintendo, they do make some good hardware but it's like they do piss me off often with their backwards stuff they often do.

The mario games are better than crash or spyro.

[MyTMouse]

If a fricking emulator can manage to do both widescreen and 60 fps in Sunshine, I don't see how it can be that difficult for Nintendo. Applies to Mario 64 too, which had widescreen and 60 fps mods , not to mention model replacers, little time after the source leaked.

Emulators that have taken dozens of people many years and countless updates to get to the point where they run almost perfectly.

There's a lot more work to it than you guys are thinking.

I'm not defending Nintendo by any means...they are incredibly greedy and I HATE when companies use slimy tactics of creating fake shortages to drive up sales.

I know that if Nintendo hired a few dozen talented software people, who were Nintendo fans, and gave them access to all the original content that they'd come up with something MUCH more incredible. Unfortunately millions of people will continue to buy this stuff and Nintendo isn't going to put a lot of resources into old content because of reasons I listed earlier.

People can take to social media and create petitions and it's not gonna make a lick of difference. Nintendo is a stubborn as $*** company

[Mangler]

I would be funny if the all stars collection was just a port of those china only nvidia shield titles.

[Meteor_of_War]

Thinking about it more, the thing that really bugs me about this has nothing to do with the enhancements or lack thereof. I'm sure the quality will be great as usual. It's the limited availability practices that bothers me.

I understand Nintendo wants to retain the value of their big properties, but they take it to anti-consumer levels with their manufactured scarcity bullshit.

Maybe it's just a Japanese business practice thing, but it's beyond annoying to always worry whether or not you'll be able to buy their products. Really its my only issue with Nintendo.

[SirBaron]

The mario games are better than crash or spyro.

Doesn't matter, they redid entirely 3 games. While Mario games are no longer than Crash or Spyro and had almost nothing done to them.

While Mario is the better game, the work and money asked is a piss take.

[SirBaron]

Emulators that have taken dozens of people many years and countless updates to get to the point where they run almost perfectly.

There's a lot more work to it than you guys are thinking.

I'm not defending Nintendo by any means...they are incredibly greedy and I HATE when companies use slimy tactics of creating fake shortages to drive up sales.

I know that if Nintendo hired a few dozen talented software people, who were Nintendo fans, and gave them access to all the original content that they'd come up with something MUCH more incredible. Unfortunately millions of people will continue to buy this stuff and Nintendo isn't going to put a lot of resources into old content because of reasons I listed earlier.

People can take to social media and create petitions and it's not gonna make a lick of difference. Nintendo is a stubborn as $*** company

What they did, didn't take "that" much work.

Anyway I agree with the forced scarcity thing, even the digital version is getting removed at the same time as physical stops production .

[SirBaron]

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This is the minimum level I was expecting from at least Mario Galaxy.

High resolution + replaced textures.

[OverclockN']

This is the minimum level I was expecting from at least Mario Galaxy.

High resolution + replaced textures.

That's what I was hoping for with Mario 64.

[SirBaron]

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Here's a video to run naitive aspect ratio on your new monitor OverclockN

HD version taking a while to process.

Seems the game can even run in 21:9 via AR code.

So yeah, I for sure wont be getting that crappy pack.

[OverclockN']

That's awesome! I really like the improved textures and how smooth it runs. It's a little stretched...but not bad.

I really need to look up how to do all that.

Are you using the Wii controllers?

[KAC]

You gays buying the upcoming Mario Collection. My kid wants the 3 in 1 coming out this Friday.

[Meteor_of_War]

You gays buying the upcoming Mario Collection. My kid wants the 3 in 1 coming out this Friday.

I assumed we'd be getting it since my son loves the games, but he hasn't shown as much interest as I thought he would.

Probably because we own all the original versions, he doesn't see much point. I have trained him well.

[Sasquach]

You gays buying the upcoming Mario Collection. My kid wants the 3 in 1 coming out this Friday.

Im not huge on platformers (even though i have some and played some), so i dont know if i'll get it.

But i never played 64 or sunshine.....

I think the main reason i'd get it is due to its possible collector status in the future since its limited run ends in March 2021.

[Mangler]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5wSl88EO3Y

Looks like they put as much effort into this trailer as they did for the collection itself.

[KAC]

My 6 year old loves Mario games. He plays the NES classic Mario as well on switch and finished Mario Odyssey himself watching YouTube videos. Actually he collected more power moons than my elder son lol. He also finished Luigi’s mansion, and is working on Mario vs Rabbids. He has also gotten adept at Super Mario Smash Bro Homie Dawg edition.

He has been badgering me to pre order but I am waiting till Friday to get it for him.

He has never had any other console compared to the Switch so it’s his first time playing these games.

[MyTMouse]

I would have bought the collection IF....

For the price they are asking the ALSO included Mario Galaxy 2 AND Super Mario 3D World

OR

They priced it $30 cheaper

Also, I HATE this stupid limited time stuff to create fake shortages and drive sales...I will never support this kind of business practice

[Meteor_of_War]

The limited time thing is not so much an issue with this since you can still just buy the digital edition. From release date until next March seems like plenty of time for anyone that wants it to get it.

But yeah, sucks for those who like to get the physical copies.

[SirBaron]

The digital is also time limited, so if you buy a switch late and wanted this collection? Well tough **** you can't.

[SirBaron]

That's awesome! I really like the improved textures and how smooth it runs. It's a little stretched...but not bad.

I really need to look up how to do all that.

Are you using the Wii controllers?

Yeah not much you can do about UI stretch, but the game it self is normal, was never designed for this so can't always be perfect.

No I'm using xbox one pad, you can use wii controllers if you also get a IR sensor bar, but eh I cba with all that.

I just want to kick my legs up and play some mario .

[OverclockN']

Yeah not much you can do about UI stretch, but the game it self is normal, was never designed for this so can't always be perfect.

No I'm using xbox one pad, you can use wii controllers if you also get a IR sensor bar, but eh I cba with all that.

I just want to kick my legs up and play some mario .

It looks great, thanks for sharing. I've been wanting to do that with GC/Wii/WiiU/Switch games for quite some time.

I have lots of questions. Maybe I'll get a hold of you on Steam if I see you logged in.

[Cynicalking]

Apparently the game leaked and it?s confirmed that the games are emulated, not direct ports.

[Sasquach]

Apparently the game leaked and it?s confirmed that the games are emulated, not direct ports.

So they just slapped together the absolute bare minimum needed to release this thing....

ultimate print money situation lol.

[MyTMouse]

Apparently the game leaked and it?s confirmed that the games are emulated, not direct ports.

Apparently they recompiled Mario Galaxy to run on the Switch CPU

[Mangler]

Has anyone checked if they're using the same emulator as nvidia did for the shield ports?

[SubCog]

You gays buying the upcoming Mario Collection. My kid wants the 3 in 1 coming out this Friday.

Yeah, I pre-ordered it from amazon. Not sure exactly when it's arriving, but I should get it when it launches.

[SubCog]

Apparently the game leaked and it?s confirmed that the games are emulated, not direct ports.

hmmm... I wonder if they lost the source code?

Although Mario64 has been fully decompiled now, so they could have just stolen that... Nintendo has shown in the past that they're okay with selling roms that they downloaded from the internet.

[SubCog]

The limited time thing is not so much an issue with this since you can still just buy the digital edition. From release date until next March seems like plenty of time for anyone that wants it to get it.

But yeah, sucks for those who like to get the physical copies.

I suspect that they're planning on unbundling them and selling them individually after 6 months. Although if they sell them at $20 each, then there's really no benefit to buying them bundled anyway.

[Meteor_of_War]

I suspect that they're planning on unbundling them and selling them individually after 6 months. Although if they sell them at $20 each, then there's really no benefit to buying them bundled anyway.

Aside from getting them now as opposed to later I guess.

I agree though. No question these games will be made available again in some form.

[SirBaron]

Apparently they recompiled Mario Galaxy to run on the Switch CPU

Only the CPU code, the audio/gpu is done via emulation.

[Silent-Runner]

wife wants a switch, but seriously, the price is a bit too rich for my taste. 320 bucks for that? I dunno what they had smoked when they came up with that pricetag.

[KAC]

Get a new wife. Might be cheaper.

But seriously, shall I get the Mario threesome or not?

[Silent-Runner]

go and get it, the threesome, without my wife, you perv.....

[Sasquach]

wife wants a switch, but seriously, the price is a bit too rich for my taste. 320 bucks for that? I dunno what they had smoked when they came up with that pricetag.

Its been out 3+ years already and the price hasnt dropped yet.

And i dont know if its ever gonna drop anytime soon. I think the best you can hope for is $50 off or something during a special holiday sale.
Or a game bundle whenever those are available for the current price.

Nintendo tends to milk the crap out of their product for as much as possible and price drops dont happen all that often if at all.

Its especially bad this generation because the accessories are actually pretty damn expensive this time around and games for whatever reason are more often than not seeing full retail pricing when some of them shouldnt (like ports)

[Meteor_of_War]

Sadly its just a bad time to be in the market for a new Switch. Stock is low and its even more expensive to try to buy one used. If she is OK with always playing handheld there's always the Switch lite for $100 less.

Or just tell your wife to wait it out until after stock gets better. Also there is a rumor about a new more powerful refresh model coming, maybe then they will drop the price a bit on the original.

[Silent-Runner]

I know, Sasquatch and Meteor, you're right, but still i find the price for the console AND the games to be absolutely astronomical. As for the wifey, we still have our pcs and the ps4, so there's no real "need" for the switch, it's just that she would like to play some of the games that are exclusive on the switch. So no biggie.

[Meteor_of_War]

Yeah since the Wii U Nintendo have really been charging a premium for their hardware. With the Switch though seems they priced it right because its selling like crazy.

I kind of think its a good value, because its a console and handheld in one and works really well as both. That kind of unique gaming hardware makes it worth the extra price IMO.

[SirBaron]

Also rumours of switch pro sometime next year.