Official Nintendo Switch Discussion

[nutcrackr]

Or 1 Skyrim install.

Skyrim is tiny, even now with Dragonborn DLC it is only 8gb. At launch it was even less, around 6gb.

[oasked]

Love the little controllers and glad that they still feature motion controls (which can be used, or not used depending on what the developer wants to do).

Price is a little higher than I hoped for, but not unreasonable. I will be pre-ordering I think.

[Nascar24]

Will be surprised if this sells at this price, $199 is really what it needs to be. Weak sauce out of the gate with only Zelda, will buy that for my WiiU.

[SirBaron]

Price isn't a factor when it has the games but. It hasn't many , it will do OK at The start, then it will grind to a halt, HD pokemon will come sales will pick up again.

I think the switch will come into its own in the second year, 3ds also did crap at the start, but it has a great library Of games now.

I think In general people should pick it up in 2018 when it has a bundle pack of games, and when they finish the actual online stuff.

[Mangler]

Feels like nintendo unsold me on getting one at launch.

[Drunken Janitor]

I really do not know what to do. My wife and I were gamers before we had kids. Now we have a nearly 5 y.o. and twin 2 y. os.. We know that our eldest will be left behind in his peer group if he does not have some sort of system. However, he does not need right away. He just saw his first tablet game last month and has had very limited time with it.

We would like to play Zelda, but camping season is just around the corner and we just don't have the time to sit and play a game. I could squeeze in some NHL game time, but nothing that requires a couple hours of commitment.

I guess we pass on launch and wait for Christmas 2017 or beyond.

[ShaidarHaran]

I've been playing my 3DS a lot more lately. So much in fact that I haven't touched the Wii U in months. Games that I already own on Wii U that I do want to play, I've purchased again on 3DS. Even though I don't go too many places where I would be able to just sit and play games, simply having the ability to choose where in my house I play games is a huge bonus.

I'm actually playing the Zelda franchise from the beginning right now. About 2/3 of the way through Ocarina of Time. Given the true portability of the Switch compared to the semi-portable nature of the Wii U gamepad, and the fact that Breath of the Wild is going to be a launch title for Switch, that may be enough to convince me to buy it day one.

Those saying the price is too high have to remember that Nintendo still has the best system-seller franchises and the most of them for that matter. If sales end up being weaker than expected, they can either drop the price, pack in one of those system sellers, or both. It's not like Nintendo is doomed if the Switch doesn't outsell PS4/Xbox One. It just needs to do better than Wii U and I think they're pretty much guaranteed to do that.

[Meteor_of_War]

Zelda being a launch title = very smart move for Nintendo.

[Drunken Janitor]

I've been playing my 3DS a lot more lately. So much in fact that I haven't touched the Wii U in months. Games that I already own on Wii U that I do want to play, I've purchased again on 3DS. Even though I don't go too many places where I would be able to just sit and play games, simply having the ability to choose where in my house I play games is a huge bonus.

I'm actually playing the Zelda franchise from the beginning right now. About 2/3 of the way through Ocarina of Time. Given the true portability of the Switch compared to the semi-portable nature of the Wii U gamepad, and the fact that Breath of the Wild is going to be a launch title for Switch, that may be enough to convince me to buy it day one.

Those saying the price is too high have to remember that Nintendo still has the best system-seller franchises and the most of them for that matter. If sales end up being weaker than expected, they can either drop the price, pack in one of those system sellers, or both. It's not like Nintendo is doomed if the Switch doesn't outsell PS4/Xbox One. It just needs to do better than Wii U and I think they're pretty much guaranteed to do that.

The thing is, is that it has to sell rigtht away or 3rd party developers won't bother with it. It has to be a huge success in the first 2 months.

The pro controllers are going to be something like $100 Canadian. Are they out of their god damn minds???

[Nascar24]

Cant say I agree price point needs to be lower then PS4/XBOX One.

[logical]

300 is just out of my price range I completely forgot about the announcement and I will have to check out some videos from it later on today when I get home from work. It will have to wow me with no games really at launch to get a pre-order. Maybe Ill wait for summer.

[SirBaron]

The thing is, is that it has to sell rigtht away or 3rd party developers won't bother with it. It has to be a huge success in the first 2 months.

The pro controllers are going to be something like $100 Canadian. Are they out of their god damn minds???

They won't bother anyway, this is basically going to get a ton of. Japanese developers, especially once Japanese buy this over the vita.

[SubCog]

Feels like nintendo unsold me on getting one at launch.

Me too.

Honestly the console concept looks great (I love the JoyCons), and I'm sure Nintendo will have some great games for it, but they really botched this presentation in a dramatic way. It really reinforces how out-of-touch Nintendo is, and that they aint never gonna change. The sad thing is that I really think they have many of the pieces in place to make this a Wii-style success... but Nintendo honestly just doesn't have the chops to build and nurture a successful platform in today's ecosystem.

I really think the best case scenario is for Nintendo to exit the console business become the world's best 3rd party publisher. They're simply outmatched in the platform market by Sony and MS, and their Japanese ego won't ever let them change to be competitive.

[TenFour]

One thing I thought they might get (should have) got into, is possibly having a distinction between AA/AAA console games vs. mobile-first games. I assume long term this platform will replace 3DS.

But when I'm playing games on my 3DS, I often want to just play for 20-30 minutes at a time. That's part of the appeal of a portable game. Portable games have a lower price range than console games, and they are usually designed specifically for shorter play sessions, or at least have a quick-save option for exiting a stage half-way through to continue later.

Nintendo needs to carry over all their 3DS developers, even if third-party doesn't care about porting their other console titles. For this, I think there should be made some sort of distinction for "Quick-Play" titles that are in the $30-40 range and are geared towards playing when on the train or in bed. Ones where developers can safely put out a very fun game that doesn't have a huge budget for graphics and amount of content, without fear of being dinged for not being a proper 20 hour, super immersive console title.

Bomberman R could be one of those if they came up with some sort of "campaign" and if it has online mode you can play via phone hotspot, or a staggered mode where you play the same stage as friends (sort of like Mario Run's secondary mode).

[night]

needs some sort of save state/sleep mode then.

also, pro control looks like 3rd party crap from 15 years ago

[Mangler]

So you only get to play the "free" VC game for a month with the online subscription?

That is so Nintendo.

[kboye]

Allright presentation, I'm guessing they aren't focusing on Europe, US etc by the tone of the presentation, the games presented and their style. They lost me Though liking the new Mario, and the joycons seemed pretty advanced.

What a weird console.

[SirBaron]

It's a great hardware produced by a dumb as **** company.

Its like the hardware team and whoever is in charge are from two different planets.

[Mangler]

I hope that nyko or some other company will come out with a battery pack that makes the thing at least outlast the gamegear.

But I guess most games will not push the console as hard as zelda does in the portable mode.

[Mangler]

I speaking of batteries, seems like you can't charge the controllers with the joycon grip that comes with the console.

[nutcrackr]

The launch lineup is bad.

[night]

is it even complete?

[Cream]

This wasn't even on my radar, but I've just watched the presentation and was quite impressed.
Can't actually work out how many games are actually going to be out for it at launch though?

[night]

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[|MaguS|]

The launch lineup is bad.

There is so much bad that people are just overlooking.

1. $300 Price
2. 5 Games on launch day
3. 2.5 to 6 hours on a single charge, most likely the lower when actually gaming.
4. Controllers cannot be charged when not connected to tablet (no word on their battery life). $30 for the Grip that adds charging support.
5. $80 for another pair of Joycons.
6. Pay for online play but get free games?! Not really, only 30 days ownership and then they are taken away.
7. Voice chat is only for subscribers and is provided through an app on a smartphone, no word if the console has it built in.
8. 32GB of storage with much of it taken up by OS.
9. 3rd party support is already terrible, EA isn't even making a good FIFA for it. Only the PS3/X360 Port.
10. It's getting a lot of quick ports even near launch (even Nintendo is making a port of MK8 rather then a new one for their NEW CONSOLE).
11. Capacitive Touchscreen... STILL IN 2017!

[Mangler]

12. It takes 3 hours to fully charge the battery.

[|MaguS|]

12. It takes 3 hours to fully charge the battery.

That's ridiculous!

But I guess we can ignore all this because it has Zelda and Mario! /s

Wii U had a terrible launch and it looks like Nintendo learned NOTHING from it.

[lazyx]

Pre-orders already sold out for most online retailers. Scalpers going to have a field day with the switch.

[|MaguS|]

Pre-orders already sold out for most online retailers. Scalpers going to have a field day with the switch.

We've been notified that its because we expect a small inventory. We were told less than 50 in my store at launch.

[|MaguS|]

Man what a launch game!

[night]

hmm.. Capacitive screen is good

[|MaguS|]

hmm.. Capacitive screen is good

Rather have seen something like the note series or even Samsungs cheaper tablets.

[Meteor_of_War]

I really hope the Wii U version of Zelda is a competent port because I may just go for that one. I don't see much reason to get the Switch for only one game (during 2017) when I can get a version of it for a console I already own.

[Sasquach]

I really hope the Wii U version of Zelda is a competent port because I may just go for that one. I don't see much reason to get the Switch for only one game (during 2017) when I can get a version of it for a console I already own.

well according to this ign article the only difference you'll be getting between switch and wii-U version is higher resolution and faster load times (due to cartridge vs disc...moot if its downloaded). FPS is reportedly the same between the two.

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2017/01/1...witch-is-1080p

I'm not a Zelda fan so that wouldn't be a system seller for me.
Mario Kart MIGHT might have been (I bought my Wii-U bundled with Mario Kart) but I have the exact same game minus the good battle mode pretty much.

Its gonna take more to get me into a Switch. Maybe sometime down the line but not at launch or until there's more noteworthy titles to my liking.

[logical]

Zelda looks good. I hope they can get it 60fps locked. I will probably pick up a switch when all the craze for it dies down in the summer time.

[lviz]

I won't preorder, will likely get it sometime in summer or fall. It would mostly be used during business trips, and I'm not traveling much during spring and summer, so there's no need to get it soon.

[SirBaron]

Eurogamer said the screen is really good quality very bright and sharp. Zelda looked better on the tablet. Than the HDTV even with the resolution boost.

I will get one (because I can not because I'm sane) but I suspect most will get one once there is either a price cut or a special edition pokemon bundle.

I think Nintendo should have just waiting till Christmas to release it, they could have just killed the Wii u and carried on with the 3ds for a few months, though. I suspect pressure from investors pushed them.

[jimmt]

Eurogamer said the screen is really good quality very bright and sharp. Zelda looked better on the tablet. Than the HDTV even with the resolution boost.

I will get one (because I can not because I'm sane) but I suspect most will get one once there is either a price cut or a special edition pokemon bundle.

I think Nintendo should have just waiting till Christmas to release it, they could have just killed the Wii u and carried on with the 3ds for a few months, though. I suspect pressure from investors pushed them.

Same and I agree. Nintendo should have aimed at Christmas. Mario and Zelda as launch titles would have guaranteed launch success.

[koralis]

There is so much bad that people are just overlooking.

1. Pay for online play but get free games?! Not really, only 30 days ownership and then they are taken away.

Though to be fair, a lot of games can be finished in less than that time and then they'll never be touched again. That's the main reason that GameFly and such can exist.

Agreed, would be better if you can play a single VC game as long as you like, then when you're done with it, then you can return it and get a different one. However, that would get in the way of Nintendo basically using the 30 days as advertising and a trial and hoping to lure you into a purchase.

[Mangler]

Zelda looks good. I hope they can get it 60fps locked. I will probably pick up a switch when all the craze for it dies down in the summer time.

60 fps is not happening, open world and a cpu that is weaker than the toaster cores in the xb1/ps4 is a pretty good guarantee for that.













But on the topic of zelda, if the switch does end up running it at a more stable framerate than the wii u, then I might pick on up at launch.

I hate sub 30 fps games.