Official Nintendo Switch Discussion

[Sasquach]

I'm not sure a "Switch Pro" is even coming now. I just don't think Nintendo sees a need for it.

They don't need to compete with Sony and MS. They are doing just fine competing with the less powerful console, proving its the games and portability that matter not processing power. Only need for a Switch Pro would be to have ports of the higher end 3rd party titles, but I just don't think its really that big of a need for them. If they do release a new version of the current Switch, I'd guess it would just have better battery life and more internal memory.

THey wont need it now, or later for that matter, but it could still come out if and when the need for a refresh arises.

They DID refresh the 3DS at some point (stupidly naming it "new 3DS") and it WAS a more powerful and slightly more capable version of the 3DS with some "new 3DS" only compatible titles.

Then again they never really did a performance refresh any of their consoles...…
-NES and SNES just got physical makeovers near the end of life,
-I guess the Wii could be considered a gamecube refresh of sorts (it was basically 2x gamecubes duct taped together....lol).
-The Wii got a mini version near the end of life, but that was just a cheaper less capability version.
-Wii-U never got a refresh (no point given how badly it tanked).

[BababooeyHTJ]

Quite frankly I'm shocked they announced this without a greatest hits collection. This thing will never replace the DS/3ds if all first party games are $60. Ffs they want $60 for a pretty barebones remake of a 30 year old Gameboy game.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Make an official joycon with that dpad Nintendo.

PLZ!

As long as it's a better dpad than what's on the pro controller. I'll take separate buttons over that.

[Meteor_of_War]

What is wrong with the pro controller d-pad? Seriously asking, I haven't tried it yet.

[BababooeyHTJ]

It'll register unintended movements pretty commonly. For example playing Tetris when moving left and right it'll also register down and drop a block.

One fix pulling the controller apart and putting some tape on half of the contacts. It works but the dpad still feels pretty mushy.

It's a big step down from the Wii u dpad.

[Sasquach]

It just occurred to me, but this Switch Lite is pretty much a Nintendo switch in a Wii-U Tablet controller chassis. The obvious difference is that the Wii-U tablet controller is just that...a controller with a large screen, whereas the Switch Lite is the entire Switch system.

Ive been reading about how some people are wondering if motion controls work lol.....(like in BOTW shrine puzzles).

They obviously never used a Wii-U.

[SubCog]

https://kotaku.com/the-nintendo-swit...ber-1836239070

This thing is ****ing ridiculous. You're spending $199 on a Switch that can't do motion controlled gaming, has no TV output. If you want to play motion control games (like that little known title Super Mario Odyssey) you have to pair joycons to it. If you're spending that much on this, have to buy joycons to get full functionality, why not buy a full Switch and get TV mode and a dock for the extra $30? This thing makes no real sense.

They should have included tv out functionality. As you can always buy separate joycons, this would make the switch lite a perfect entry-level console. The lack of tv functionality is a bit strange.



Last week we visited family outside Portland. We spent a significant amount of time in 2ds lan parties with cousins. Each of my boys have a 2ds, and a bunch of the cousins too. I also happen to have 2 3ds XLs ("new" and non-new), so overall i think we had maybe 9 handhelds total, which made for awesome games of Mario Kart, Mario Party, Pokemon, & Smash Bros.

The fact that you can get a 2ds for under $100 makes a gigantic difference, and makes these consoles nearly ubiquitous. I'd love to see some kind of switch hardware in that price range someday, as it really opens up a ton of new possibilities.

[Meteor_of_War]

It'll register unintended movements pretty commonly. For example playing Tetris when moving left and right it'll also register down and drop a block.

One fix pulling the controller apart and putting some tape on half of the contacts. It works but the dpad still feels pretty mushy.

It's a big step down from the Wii u dpad.

Shame they would screw that up. All they had to do was reuse the d-pad design from the Wii U pro controller.

[Elysian]

It just occurred to me, but this Switch Lite is pretty much a Nintendo switch in a Wii-U Tablet controller chassis. The obvious difference is that the Wii-U tablet controller is just that...a controller with a large screen, whereas the Switch Lite is the entire Switch system.

Ive been reading about how some people are wondering if motion controls work lol.....(like in BOTW shrine puzzles).

They obviously never used a Wii-U.

I'm sure it work for some of the BOTW stuff, but throwing Cappy in Mario Odyssey? No thanks to that.

[Sasquach]

I'm sure it work for some of the BOTW stuff, but throwing Cappy in Mario Odyssey? No thanks to that.

I'd imagine any kind of joycon throwing motion can be done using the touchscreen by swiping on it.

It's how its done on the Wii-U when not using the wiimotes. (Like in Pikmin3, swipe the direction on the tablet screen you want to toss the pikmin)

[Elysian]

I don't think having to take your hands off the controls would work well for Mario Odyssey.

[SubCog]

Mario Odyssey plays fine without motion controls. There's only a couple of optional actions that require them. It's kindof perfect for the switch lite.

I kindof hate the gimmicky control gimmicks that nintendo often does, like in Mario Galaxy for example, where the vast majority of the game would work fine without motion controls but you still need them for 5%. We deserve an HD Mario Galaxy release, and we can't get it 'cause of the stupid wiimote controls.

[Athena]

A good portion of sales of the Lite will be people that already have a Switch so they will not need to buy extra joy cons to play games that need them. They will just use the Lite as the kids machine and portable unit from now on.

I am more interested in the Pro unit coming out in 2020 and what ever that might bring to the table. Hoping for improved Bluetooth specs and maybe 1080p performance in portable mode. ^_^

[Elysian]

Ordered Super Mario Maker 2 with the 1yr of online service today. Should have it Thursday, need to make more time to game before I go crazier.

[Sasquach]

A Switch hardware revision has just been announced, with longer battery life as the key thing (4.5 - 9 hrs)

So its most likely getting the same slightly upgraded (suspected die shrink) SoC used in the Switch Lite.

Funny enough, it actually has longer rated battery life than the Switch Lite (3-7hrs). Im guessing this is attributed to a different battery capacity size between the two units.

Mid-august is the date that the new units are supposed to be out.
im going to hope that when I do get my switch, it'll be one of the newer units rather than the first revision ones lol.

[Mangler]

Hmm, that marvel game looks like it was in a need of a pro model, seems like it runs like trash in handheld and just ok in docked.

[The Luggage]

I'm waiting for Castle Crashers remastered. Supposed to be out sometime this summer.

[ragewars_sc]

https://kotaku.com/the-nintendo-swit...ber-1836239070

This thing is ****ing ridiculous. You're spending $199 on a Switch that can't do motion controlled gaming, has no TV output. If you want to play motion control games (like that little known title Super Mario Odyssey) you have to pair joycons to it. If you're spending that much on this, have to buy joycons to get full functionality, why not buy a full Switch and get TV mode and a dock for the extra $30? This thing makes no real sense.

Everything related to switch is ****ing ridiculous... think about it.. you pay ps4 pro price and get 60% of an Xbox one... )))))) But if people buy.. well... to bad for us that want Nintendo to keep the pace and offer us more than a 480p( of maybe 680p) game in today's fidelity standard.
Is even worse when u know nvidia is selling the same hardware at double the speed for cpu and gpu and with a real controler( no screen and no stupid motion controllers) at 180...

[Meteor_of_War]

Everything related to switch is ****ing ridiculous... think about it.. you pay ps4 pro price and get 60% of an Xbox one... )))))) But if people buy.. well... to bad for us that want Nintendo to keep the pace and offer us more than a 480p( of maybe 680p) game in today's fidelity standard.
Is even worse when u know nvidia is selling the same hardware at double the speed for cpu and gpu and with a real controler( no screen and no stupid motion controllers) at 180...

Sorry but you sound incredibly out of touch here, or maybe just trolling?

If you're comparing consoles strictly by processing power you are missing the point entirely. Can you take an Xbox One or PS4 pro portable? No. Nintendo offers a different gaming experience with the Switch, with different kinds of games. You cant really compare it to the other consoles on hardware specs alone, its much more than that.

If the Switch is not for you that's fine. But no reason to just bash it because its not as powerful as other consoles. You sound like a 12 year old.

[Nascar24]

With Nintendo its all about the games, I have a switch which I bought for games like Zelda, Mario, yoshi. The games are different then the standard fare on other consoles.

[Elysian]

Been playing through story mode on Super Mario Maker 2, that game is ridiculously fun. Just playing Saturday I got 75% of my castle built.

[Elysian]

Everything related to switch is ****ing ridiculous... think about it.. you pay ps4 pro price and get 60% of an Xbox one... )))))) But if people buy.. well... to bad for us that want Nintendo to keep the pace and offer us more than a 480p( of maybe 680p) game in today's fidelity standard.
Is even worse when u know nvidia is selling the same hardware at double the speed for cpu and gpu and with a real controler( no screen and no stupid motion controllers) at 180...

I've got an Xbox One S and a Switch... My Switch gets more play, by far.

The Nvidia you're talking about doesn't have Nintendo games.

[Athena]

I've got an Xbox One S and a Switch... My Switch gets more play, by far.

The Nvidia you're talking about doesn't have Nintendo games.

I have all 3 and the Switch is the main time grabber because it can go any place I want to be. That and it plays odd ball games the big two do not want on their systems.

[Sasquach]

With Nintendo its all about the games, I have a switch which I bought for games like Zelda, Mario, yoshi. The games are different then the standard fare on other consoles.

Yup Nintendo is good with that, and replay values.

On the other consoles you play a game for 5 hrs, see the best graphics, experience the best atmosphere, finish it and then never touch it again.

all the while im still playing Mario Kart and Smash and stuff because its
"low res" shenanigans are more mindlessly fun than uber high res gore fests on more powerful machines.

Maybe its also cuz im older and I don't really have the patience to sit around and play a game for more than 2hrs at a time max anymore. (which all these high rest atmospheric games require you to pay myuch attention to....and they also drag the time with tons of cutscenes and videos....)

[Elysian]

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Maybe its also cuz im older and I don't really have the patience to sit around and play a game for more than 2hrs at a time max anymore. (which all these high rest atmospheric games require you to pay myuch attention to....and they also drag the time with tons of cutscenes and videos....)

I think that's a lot of it, I don't have time to game really anymore, unless it's on the go.

[Dungeoncrawler]

9.5/10

Time to fire the old switch on. Keep in mind this game apparently requires the player to invest a large amount of time via multiple play throughs to acquire the entire story.

Fire Emblem: Three Houses Review
An incredible amount of choice both on and off the battlefield.

Verdict
Fire Emblem: Three Houses succeeds in its ambitious telling of a land at war helmed by captivating leaders, in which no side has all the answers. Its tense battles are made all the more harrowing thanks to new strategy elements, and the colorful cast of troops you send into the fray are incredibly charming. With a new take on training and bonding with your units, and the many activities and options available to sample, it’s absolutely begging to be played multiple times.

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/07...-houses-review

[Nascar24]

I'm saving my 2 game vouchers for The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening and Luigi's Mansion 3

[Dungeoncrawler]

Played through the prologue and then explored a little while forwarding the story (3 houses). Seems like a tight game if this is your cup-of-tea? A timer to auto-forward conversations would be cool. Having to constantly hit a key with the accompanying 'click' sound kind of gets irritating with all the dialogue in-game.

[Sasquach]

Played through the prologue and then explored a little while forwarding the story (3 houses). Seems like a tight game if this is your cup-of-tea? A timer to auto-forward conversations would be cool. Having to constantly hit a key with the accompanying 'click' sound kind of gets irritating with all the dialogue in-game.

Fire Emblem seems to appeal to specific audience, as its a tactical grid style RPG.

Ive played the Wii version (Radiant Dawn) and its actually quite a hard game. (I keep losing guys and i'd prefer to keep them alive for the next set of battles)

[BababooeyHTJ]

Fire Emblem seems to appeal to specific audience, as its a tactical grid style RPG.

Ive played the Wii version (Radiant Dawn) and its actually quite a hard game. (I keep losing guys and i'd prefer to keep them alive for the next set of battles)

Yeah, the permadeath is a turn off for me sadly.

[Mangler]

The permadeath is optional in the newer titles.

[BababooeyHTJ]

The permadeath is optional in the newer titles.

Does it make the game a bit too easy? Is it was balanced around permadeath.

[Mangler]

You could always play on hard with permadeath on.

As a Fire Emblem snob, I firmly believe that Classic is the way to go. Three Houses has mechanisms to make it far less punishing than in previous games (specifically a very generous rewind-time system to erase screwups)

https://www.polygon.com/guides/2019/...al-hard-normal

Doesn't feel like it matters when even the permadeath mode has that feature.

[hazindu]

I have great memories of playing Link's Awakening on a banana yellow gameboy pocket. When Link's Awakening came out, I though Nintendo could\should sell it at full AAA price. Ironically, they are selling the remake at full price, and I just don't think it's in the same league as something I'd pay 60 bucks for.

The original\current Switch has eggcellent backpack portability, and the new lite really doesn't look like it will improve pocket portability to a meaningful degree. Other than being available in bananana yellow, I don't really see the point. I don't like motion controls in general, but Switch does have one really big first party title that uses them and uses them well.

my $.02

[Nascar24]

I have great memories of playing Link's Awakening on a banana yellow gameboy pocket. When Link's Awakening came out, I though Nintendo could\should sell it at full AAA price. Ironically, they are selling the remake at full price, and I just don't think it's in the same league as something I'd pay 60 bucks for.

The original\current Switch has eggcellent backpack portability, and the new lite really doesn't look like it will improve pocket portability to a meaningful degree. Other than being available in bananana yellow, I don't really see the point. I don't like motion controls in general, but Switch does have one really big first party title that uses them and uses them well.

my $.02

Not sure about that for Links Awaking, Its a full remake just using the story so I can see it going for full price. I ended up buying 2 of the 2 game Nintendo vouchers for $100 each but discounted because you can buy $50 eShop gift cards for $42. So basically $42 for new AAA release. Never played Links awaking so its a full new game for me anyways. I will be picking up Luigi's Mansion 3 with the other voucher I have. The voucher deal ended yesterday though.

[hazindu]

If you enjoyed a Link to the Past and Link between Worlds, then Link's Awakening is probably a solid buy.

[ragewars_sc]

I've got an Xbox One S and a Switch... My Switch gets more play, by far.

The Nvidia you're talking about doesn't have Nintendo games.

I was talking about the value of the hardware you buy. If you think we should pay more for weak hardware just because the software is good..
But I agree.. even if I don't play my switch more than my pc or my Xbox Onex Nintendo makes the best games.. to bad that in 2019 we still play these games at 720p with low and v low settings and not use the technology we already have. Think at a Zelda comparable in graphics with RED Dead 2...heck.. since it costs as much as a ps4 pro i would love a 1080p console with ps4 pro power... real controller, big hhd, maybe vr.. i bet Nintendo can do so much more in VR ect.

[Mangler]

The shield does have nintendo games though, it has some hd ports of classic wii and gc titles.

They are not available worldwide since they are region locked to China, but they do exist.

[Elysian]

I was talking about the value of the hardware you buy. If you think we should pay more for weak hardware just because the software is good..
But I agree.. even if I don't play my switch more than my pc or my Xbox Onex Nintendo makes the best games.. to bad that in 2019 we still play these games at 720p with low and v low settings and not use the technology we already have. Think at a Zelda comparable in graphics with RED Dead 2...heck.. since it costs as much as a ps4 pro i would love a 1080p console with ps4 pro power... real controller, big hhd, maybe vr.. i bet Nintendo can do so much more in VR ect.

The system isn't all about the hardware, it never has been.

[SirBaron]

I was talking about the value of the hardware you buy. If you think we should pay more for weak hardware just because the software is good..
But I agree.. even if I don't play my switch more than my pc or my Xbox Onex Nintendo makes the best games.. to bad that in 2019 we still play these games at 720p with low and v low settings and not use the technology we already have. Think at a Zelda comparable in graphics with RED Dead 2...heck.. since it costs as much as a ps4 pro i would love a 1080p console with ps4 pro power... real controller, big hhd, maybe vr.. i bet Nintendo can do so much more in VR ect.

But then the hardware wouldn't sell. Only reason it's selling good is because it's a Hybrid and not a pile of **** afterthought like the Wii U.

Though the lack of OS updates is a royal pain in teh ass.