Official Nintendo Switch Discussion

[KAC]

Kid again asking for Switch. Not sure if I want to purchase one. But in case I end up succumbing to his cute face, I need to know wtf I need to add as a bundle?

I am thinking.

Switch
Pro Controller
Zelda Breath of the Wild
Mario Kart 8
Maybe a micro SD card or some crap since 32 GB is such a joke?

Any other games or that it?

[mynakedrat2]

arms, but id say thats a good bundle, you can find a much larger sd card for like 28 bucks though . 32 wont last that long.
and get a glass screen protector, they are 8$ for two, and some type of carrying case, 20$

[KAC]

So picked up a switch with pro controller, Zelda, Mario Kart 8, some tetris game, an amibii or something, case, stand and screen protector. About 700 bucks. What a frickin' rip off.

[Seyiji]

So picked up a switch with pro controller, Zelda, Mario Kart 8, some tetris game, an amibii or something, case, stand and screen protector. About 700 bucks. What a frickin' rip off.

Oi haven't see your Agitated thread lately so I take it you found a job? If so congrats ^_^

[Nascar24]

Dam, KAC be loaded!

[KAC]

No job. I am agitated. But my kids can't be.

[KAC]

So my initial impressions are. It is a nice little toy with very little longevity unless I get into Zelda. Mario Kart 8 is just OK. Some tracks are cool but I don't see it having any sort of staying power. I don't know what other games there are on this platform but asking 40 bucks for Ultra SFII is quite possibly the biggest rip off in the history of gaming. Actually this whole Nintendo thing is a total rip off.

There better be games coming on it pronto or it is not going to stay for a long time here.

[Meteor_of_War]

Mario Kart doesn't have staying power lol.

[mynakedrat2]

but, monster hunter!!

[KAC]

Played Zelda for 2 hours. No dialog is pissing me off. Otherwise decent game. Did 2 shrines. If this is all the game has to offer it will be a bore fest soon enough. Also will take me ages to get a hold of A button to do everything. Used to PS4 and Xbox layout. Otherwise a bit cumbersome but fun game.

7/10 for now. Kart 8 is maybe a 7/10 as well. Tetris is Tetris so about 10/10.
Not buying more games for now. This is too rich for my blood. Pro controller is such a ripoff here. Cost me nearly 90 bucks.

[lmchv]

The Pro controller is expensive everywhere!

I paid around $650 for the Switch, Pro Controller and Zelda back in March. Since then I got another Pro Controller (~$86 in Miami), extra Joycons ($80 Amazon), case ($30 Amazon), charging grip ($30 Amazon).

I don't expect to buy any more hardware for a while (maybe an extra docking station), Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is awesome, hours and hours of playtime, it's great for 4 players.

[Meteor_of_War]

Aside from the Pro controller maybe needing to be $10-$15 less, I don't see all that much wrong with the pricing of the Switch stuff.

Only other issue I have with it was no pack in game. Can't remember any time in the past Nintendo launched a console without a game included.

I'm hoping this holiday season they decide to sell a nice bundle with a game for the same price of the system now.

[Elysian]

I'm annoyed that the Pro controller doesn't have analog triggers, but otherwise it's a great controller.

[SirBaron]

just get a 8bitdo controller.

[jimjobob]

I didn't like paying 70 bucks for the pro controller either but I think the price is somewhat justified by the battery life.

[BababooeyHTJ]

I didn't like paying 70 bucks for the pro controller either but I think the price is somewhat justified by the battery life.

I bought one too. Still, my two favorite features are the battery live and gyro. Both of which matched on the steam controller which regularly goes on sale for half the price of the switch pro controller.

Hell the day that I bought one I walked by PS4 controllers at Best Buy on sale at half the cost. Felt pretty ridiculous. Also saw a switch available.

[Nascar24]

No job. I am agitated. But my kids can't be.

-TheDonald

[SirBaron]

Well the battery life in the ds4 are pretty ridiculous, ****ing sick of charging that controller

[KAC]

Haven't touched Zelda since I wrote that I played it. My kid is having a ball with it. It helps since it is summer holidays and he is spending most of his time owning shrines in Zelda. He tamed a horse as well he told me.

I told him, good for him. Maybe once he is done, I can get some time in. However, I have already so many games on so many platforms that I don't know what to play. I end up watching Flash season 1 because I was getting so bored out of my mind. lol.

[Dungeoncrawler]

i've been bowling endlessly in BOW to accumulate wealth and not much else.

[KAC]

Wow, I connected Switch to my TV set. It ****ing sucks ass in graphics. BOTW looks worse than a PS3 game to be honest (talking about decent looking PS3 games like Killzone 3, God of War 3, Last of Us, Resistance 3 etc.).

Also, holy frame drops batman. Doesn't happen whilst in handheld mode but the minute you have those 3-4 uglies throwing crap at you, frames drop sub-20 I think. At least that's how it felt like.

What a load of poop this switch is. I guess, I will need to play Zelda in handheld mode only. Is there no option to force HD rather than full HD when connected to TV set?

[Mahjik]

Since when has Nintendo been known for great graphics?

[Elysian]

Wow, I connected Switch to my TV set. It ****ing sucks ass in graphics. BOTW looks worse than a PS3 game to be honest (talking about decent looking PS3 games like Killzone 3, God of War 3, Last of Us, Resistance 3 etc.).

Also, holy frame drops batman. Doesn't happen whilst in handheld mode but the minute you have those 3-4 uglies throwing crap at you, frames drop sub-20 I think. At least that's how it felt like.

What a load of poop this switch is. I guess, I will need to play Zelda in handheld mode only. Is there no option to force HD rather than full HD when connected to TV set?

No, when BOTW is run at 720P on the tv it's still rendering at 900P. No way to change that, the only time it renders in 720P is handheld mode.

[Sasquach]

Wow, I connected Switch to my TV set. It ****ing sucks ass in graphics. BOTW looks worse than a PS3 game to be honest (talking about decent looking PS3 games like Killzone 3, God of War 3, Last of Us, Resistance 3 etc.).

Also, holy frame drops batman. Doesn't happen whilst in handheld mode but the minute you have those 3-4 uglies throwing crap at you, frames drop sub-20 I think. At least that's how it felt like.

What a load of poop this switch is. I guess, I will need to play Zelda in handheld mode only. Is there no option to force HD rather than full HD when connected to TV set?

I don't think the game was optimized at all for the Switch. IT was made as a Wii-U game and they just ported it to switch enhancing just the graphics quality as far as I know which keeps the experience relatively the same between the two systems.

[Sasquach]

Since when has Nintendo been known for great graphics?

In terms of artstyle and utilizing what hardware they have to its most effective based on the artstyle, then yes.

In terms of maximizing the hardware using every graphical feature they have available then no.

[Mahjik]

In terms of artstyle and utilizing what hardware they have to its most effective based on the artstyle, then yes.

In terms of maximizing the hardware using every graphical feature they have available then no.

Technically, it wasn't a yes/no question....

[Mangler]

Nintendo did play the graphics game until the release of the wii though.

[Nascar24]

Wow, I connected Switch to my TV set. It ****ing sucks ass in graphics. BOTW looks worse than a PS3 game to be honest (talking about decent looking PS3 games like Killzone 3, God of War 3, Last of Us, Resistance 3 etc.).

Also, holy frame drops batman. Doesn't happen whilst in handheld mode but the minute you have those 3-4 uglies throwing crap at you, frames drop sub-20 I think. At least that's how it felt like.

What a load of poop this switch is. I guess, I will need to play Zelda in handheld mode only. Is there no option to force HD rather than full HD when connected to TV set?

BOTW beats Horizon Zero Dawn in game play hands down in my book. Graphics are more then acceptable minus the frame drops. I played it on the WiiU so slightly worse on there. Didn't care though, game was fun as hell. Still having a hard time getting into Zero Dawn after playing this one.

[KAC]

For me it is the opposite. I can't get into it. Game is clunky as **** all. Running around changing weapons mid combat is just taking me out of the game.

[SirBaron]

Since when has Nintendo been known for great graphics?

Since every machine until the Wii. Then for whatever reason they opted for a different route.

For people saying the graphics on switch suck etc, look at the size of the machine.

There was no way for Nintendo to make it look any better graphically as there is no better tech on the market.

[Dave]

Since every machine until the Wii. Then for whatever reason they opted for a different route.

For people saying the graphics on switch suck etc, look at the size of the machine.

There was no way for Nintendo to make it look any better graphically as there is no better tech on the market.

Besides a Tegra X2 based on Pascal, instead of using last gen Tegra X1 based on Maxwell. If they had used a X2 chip - probably looking at 15-20% more GPU power AND longer battery life.

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[Nascar24]

For me it is the opposite. I can't get into it. Game is clunky as **** all. Running around changing weapons mid combat is just taking me out of the game.

Ill give you that, it didn't bother me all that much but the weapons breaking just about instantly every fight was a bit much. Should have had a decent amount of time before they would break.

[SirBaron]

Besides a Tegra X2 based on Pascal, instead of using last gen Tegra X1 based on Maxwell. If they had used a X2 chip - probably looking at 15-20% more GPU power AND longer battery life.

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And then people would say why didn't they wait for a Tegra x3. They're always more powerful and have better battery life.

X2 came out around switch launch, Nintendo is having a hard time making a switch now let alone with a chip that only started production not long ago.

Plus there's nothing stopping Nintendo from releasing a Switch + in the future with a Tegra x5 or whatever, they have a history of revising hardware so it's not. Impossible.

[Sasquach]

And then people would say why didn't they wait for a Tegra x3. They're always more powerful and have better battery life.

X2 came out around switch launch, Nintendo is having a hard time making a switch now let alone with a chip that only started production not long ago.

Plus there's nothing stopping Nintendo from releasing a Switch + in the future with a Tegra x5 or whatever, they have a history of revising hardware so it's not. Impossible.

But Nintendo always brings out their "Current" hardware with stuff that's like 2 generations old. Not even the LAST generation, usually its before that. something that's pretty much damn near obsolete before it even gets released.

When the Wii-U came out it the rumored tech on that was the Radon 4xxx series...and we were already well into the 5 and 6 series at the time of the rumors. A 5670 or something at the time would have been far more efficient, just as powerful as required AND had new features that the 4xxx series didn't have. plus it likely would have cost less as it was a lower end chip than what was rumored to be in the Wii-U.

But I guess for the purpose of the switch they really only had to pick between Tegra X1 and Qualcomm Snapdragon I'm guess 820 series. Which one would actually be better? I don't think AMD's SoC fit the bill at all as they don't really have anything better than a laptop level APU which is probably far too power hungry for the Switch's purpose.

[Meteor_of_War]

Wow, I connected Switch to my TV set. It ****ing sucks ass in graphics. BOTW looks worse than a PS3 game to be honest (talking about decent looking PS3 games like Killzone 3, God of War 3, Last of Us, Resistance 3 etc.).

Also, holy frame drops batman. Doesn't happen whilst in handheld mode but the minute you have those 3-4 uglies throwing crap at you, frames drop sub-20 I think. At least that's how it felt like.

What a load of poop this switch is. I guess, I will need to play Zelda in handheld mode only. Is there no option to force HD rather than full HD when connected to TV set?

But can you take your high end PC or PS4 mobile like you can with the Switch?

Starting with the Wii, Nintendo chose to go in the direction of innovation rather than processing power. They just want to go in their own direction. Its understandable if you prefer bleeding edge tech, but some people just want a fun gaming experience and for many out there Nintendo's games and consoles are more fun to play on than a PS4 or high end gaming PC.

[Mahjik]

Since every machine until the Wii.

I will say some folks' definition of "good graphics" are different than others... However, it likely depends on what you are comparing.

[jimjobob]

I will say some folks' definition of "good graphics" are different than others... However, it likely depends on what you are comparing.

64 vs saturn and playstation, Gamecube VS xbox, ps2 and Dreamcast. Nintendo had the best hardware in both generations prior to the wii.

For being a handheld console, the switch has fantastic graphics. It will also likely be my platform of choice for non graphic intense multi platform titles like most JRPG's.

[KAC]

I think people don't read what is being said. All I said was that BOTW runs like poop on a TV and is there a way to force 720P on TV set. That means I am not looking for more power but actually a way to make the game playable when docked.

I know very well what Switch runs in terms of graphics and it is poop but that was a design decision that I can understand given the great handheld mode.

[Meteor_of_War]

If that's all you said there sure was a lot of other nonsense in your post.

I don't see how the game is unplayable when docked on the Switch. I play it on the Wii U and its perfectly fine.

You don't need a million frames per second in this game.

[KAC]

If that's all you said there sure was a lot of other nonsense in your post.

I don't see how the game is unplayable when docked on the Switch. I play it on the Wii U and its perfectly fine.

You don't need a million frames per second in this game.

What nonsense? Graphics of Zelda are worse than PS3 games that I listed.
It runs like poop when docked. Nobody needs millions of fps but at least 30 should be a standard like for most console games.
There should be an option to choose between consistent fps (30 at 720P) or inconsistent (20 at 900P).

Defend Nintendo much?