Oblivion frame rate?

[blackphoenix]

So really, how bad is the frame rate in Oblivion on the xbox 360?
I've heard it's horrible. That makes me think of framerates in the teens, is it really that bad?

[Maze]

So really, how bad is the frame rate in Oblivion on the xbox 360?
I've heard it's horrible. That makes me think of framerates in the teens, is it really that bad?

most of the times around 30, but when loading a new area the next 5 seconds you have performance in the low 20's and in big cities. the performance is also around the 25.

[badboy]

its locked at 30 fps

[Ywap]

The constant loading when walking outside the cities is worse than the framerate itself. I saw it at a friends house, but i would have been very dissapointed if i had bought the game myself.

[KMax]

To be honest, it is a little bit annoying when you're walking around outside, but I've gotten used to it and it's not that big of a deal. I personally just appreciate that they've created a huge world with almost seemless transition while you're roaming around. Of course it could be better, but it's definitely a start.

[Maze]

the loading is not that bad, a lot worser is the framerate after loading!

[painkiller]

Oh hell no... Not another stuttering piece of ****. Oh well M$ did say that this generation is all about the graphics and so it seems.

I don't like a one bit when a console game is stuttering. It is just not worth it sacrifise the game play over the graphics

For once try out NFSMW at 720P and you will notice that the conrol latency is too much and you see stuttering. Then go and set your video output to 480P and BAM your control latency is gone and the game is a lot more playable.

Full Auto stuttering piece of **** no matter what you do.

Quake 4 oh well every one knows.

NBA Live and Fifa 06 both stuttering, but this is in acceptable levels IMO.

Condemned also stuttering but it's playable.

BC = stuttering if even working

Thankfully FNR 3, PGR 3 and Kameo aren't stuttering. Gives me some hope for the better future.

Did I miss anything? Anyways they expect us to pay 60-70 euros for **** like this and it is unacceptable!

I'm starting to think that Ati's GPU desing isn't as good as hyped. The unified shaders does sound good but if those can't be utilised, than what good are they? Maybe nVidias traditional design on the PS3 will show a lot more usability. Only time will tell.

[tranCendenZ]

So really, how bad is the frame rate in Oblivion on the xbox 360?
I've heard it's horrible. That makes me think of framerates in the teens, is it really that bad?

It's not that bad - better than the PC version for most users' PCs, thats for sure.

[verbals2000]

The constant loading when walking outside the cities is worse than the framerate itself. I saw it at a friends house, but i would have been very dissapointed if i´ve bought the game myself.

Yeah, like the system in your sig could run it any better. You can't come close to the 360 without a videocard with Pixel Shader 3.0, or at least 2gb of ram. I and believe me, the system in your sig, it would run a hell of a lot worse.

[yoz]

It's not that bad - better than the PC version for most users' PCs, thats for sure.

At least in another year when i upgrade my PC i can play it smooth with great graphics and no silly framerate caps

[Ywap]

Yeah, like the system in your sig could run it any better. You can't come close to the 360 without a videocard with Pixel Shader 3.0, or at least 2gb of ram. I and believe me, the system in your sig, it would run a hell of a lot worse.

Trust me, i´m VERY aware of that

My pc has been outdated for atleast one year now. With the lack of interesting games the last 12 months there haven´t been any good reason to upgrade. I only bought 3 games last year: Serious Sam 2, Quake 4 and FEAR. I plan on waiting for the g80/r600 + AM2/Conroe before i upgrade again.

And as you can see in my sig, i have an xbox360 too. But since i´m not really interested in Oblivion, or any rpg for that matter, i don´t plan on buying it for any system. I just commented the performance on the 360 you know

[GRimm862]

I totaly agree, if they don't start making these ****ing games playable im selling my xbox 360. It's rediculous. I can't even play ghost recon online because of the insanely low FPS. This is getting old.

[Zoolander1]

I totaly agree, if they don't start making these ****ing games playable im selling my xbox 360. It's rediculous. I can't even play ghost recon online because of the insanely low FPS. This is getting old.

Well, look at the bright side... you'll have some spare cash including the money you make from selling your PC's as well. I mean those two systems must be getting really old and unplayable with these games.

[GRimm862]

What you just said made no sense. PC games play fine. You can adjust the graphics to your system to make it play right. On the 360 however you can do no such thing so this is why I'm angry.

[painkiller]

What you just said made no sense. PC games play fine. You can adjust the graphics to your system to make it play right. On the 360 however you can do no such thing so this is why I'm angry.

Yep on a closed system you shouldn't have to worry about the framerate dropping below 30 I find most of the current games on X360 either unplayable or not very pleasant to play because of the crappy framerates.

[Zoolander1]

What you just said made no sense. PC games play fine. You can adjust the graphics to your system to make it play right. On the 360 however you can do no such thing so this is why I'm angry.

Really? I guess you haven't read any of the many forums with countless people complaining about framrate issues with their PC's.

a little boy linked to some of those many cases:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?p=1334248812#post1334248812

How about reading some of these poor guys with decent PC's having issues:

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=291263

BTW, check out their unofficial poll with over 420 votes which claims that only 17% say it works fine. The other 83% claim that performance is horrendous.

diehard said it best: "play it with the crap settings with the crap that you got or spend a crap load of money to upgrade."

[Weaser]

Oh hell no... Not another stuttering piece of ****. Oh well M$ did say that this generation is all about the graphics and so it seems.

I don't like a one bit when a console game is stuttering. It is just not worth it sacrifise the game play over the graphics

For once try out NFSMW at 720P and you will notice that the conrol latency is too much and you see stuttering. Then go and set your video output to 480P and BAM your control latency is gone and the game is a lot more playable.

Full Auto stuttering piece of **** no matter what you do.

Quake 4 oh well every one knows.

NBA Live and Fifa 06 both stuttering, but this is in acceptable levels IMO.

Condemned also stuttering but it's playable.

BC = stuttering if even working

Thankfully FNR 3, PGR 3 and Kameo aren't stuttering. Gives me some hope for the better future.

Did I miss anything? Anyways they expect us to pay 60-70 euros for **** like this and it is unacceptable!

I'm starting to think that Ati's GPU desing isn't as good as hyped. The unified shaders does sound good but if those can't be utilised, than what good are they? Maybe nVidias traditional design on the PS3 will show a lot more usability. Only time will tell.

Stuttering is usually a memory issue. For BF2 to play decent on PC's you usually need about 2gigs of ram to prevent stuttering. At high res anyways. The stuttering is real-time loading of areas. I'd rather have some stuttering every 15-20 seconds as opposed to seeing a please wait loading screen. What I don't get is why framerate is an issue with this type of game? It's not an fps, it's an adventure game! Jeeezz.. if you want to gripe about frame rates try playing everquest 2. It "stutters" on my Duo Core CPU with 2 gigs of 667Mhz Dual Channel Ram and a 7800 Nvidia video card. Exceptional graphics = some stuttering.

[oasked]

Works nice and smooth here, not max settings but hey, I'm still playing at 1280x1024. If it stutters, turn down the options.

[painkiller]

Stuttering is usually a memory issue. For BF2 to play decent on PC's you usually need about 2gigs of ram to prevent stuttering. At high res anyways. The stuttering is real-time loading of areas. I'd rather have some stuttering every 15-20 seconds as opposed to seeing a please wait loading screen. What I don't get is why framerate is an issue with this type of game? It's not an fps, it's an adventure game! Jeeezz.. if you want to gripe about frame rates try playing everquest 2. It "stutters" on my Duo Core CPU with 2 gigs of 667Mhz Dual Channel Ram and a 7800 Nvidia video card. Exceptional graphics = some stuttering.

I'd rather see no stuttering. As X360 is a closed system it is possible to design the game so that no one will have stuttering.

Also you should note that I wasn't only complaining about Oblivion, over 50% of the games for X360 has stuttering that really affects gameplay and that is just unacceptable. I don't know why people keep buying these games. Or maybe they are just graphics whores and don't care about "little" suttering over gameplay.

[Clockwork]

Am I the only one that doesn't have a complaint about this games performance? There were some outdoor scenes where it got a little slow, but by no means did it hamper the experience or annoy me. Indoors the game has yet to slow down at all....

[LaBlue]

I thought Xbox360 was 1-2 years ahead of PC

[GRimm862]

Really? I guess you haven't read any of the many forums with countless people complaining about framrate issues with their PC's.

a little boy linked to some of those many cases:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...post1334248812

How about reading some of these poor guys with decent PC's having issues:

http://www.elderscrolls.com/forums/i...owtopic=291263

BTW, check out their unofficial poll with over 420 votes which claims that only 17% say it works fine. The other 83% claim that performance is horrendous.

diehard said it best: "play it with the crap settings with the crap that you got or spend a crap load of money to upgrade."

Ok? Who says I'm strictly talking about just Oblivion? Almost half the games for the 360 are very badly made and have horrible framerates. So please stop trying to prove this point in your head that isn't a reality.

[plan-9]

i dont own an xb360, but have heard lots of people complain about low fps on quite a few games. thing is its still a new system, and developers still need time to figure it all out. the problem does seem that it was rushed, and of course most publishers today put far too much pressure on devs to get these games out. so unfortunately you will have games come out that arent fully optimized. it will happen on all systems. the rev might not be too bad since its very similar to the gamecube. and ps3 being delayed has a few developers saying it was a smart move cause now they can optimize their games.

[Zoolander1]

Ok? Who says I'm strictly talking about just Oblivion? Almost half the games for the 360 are very badly made and have horrible framerates. So please stop trying to prove this point in your head that isn't a reality.

The thread title is about Oblivion, that's what WE are all talking about.
I'm with Clockwork here and don't have huge performance issues with this game on the 360.

[Zoolander1]

I thought Xbox360 was 1-2 years ahead of PC

No, but you were close. It's 3-4 times less expensive than current PC's.

[LaBlue]

No, but you were close. It's 3-4 times less expensive than current PC's.

I'm not going to even answer that since you seem to think a PC is only used for games.

[LaBlue]

i dont own an xb360, but have heard lots of people complain about low fps on quite a few games. thing is its still a new system, and developers still need time to figure it all out. the problem does seem that it was rushed, and of course most publishers today put far too much pressure on devs to get these games out. so unfortunately you will have games come out that arent fully optimized. it will happen on all systems. the rev might not be too bad since its very similar to the gamecube. and ps3 being delayed has a few developers saying it was a smart move cause now they can optimize their games.

Whats there to figure out? Xbox360 basically uses a version of DirectX which game developers have been programming for a long time. You are however correct in saying the games were rushed. EA needs to make their big bucks. As for Bethesda well all their games have always been unoptimized.

[Zoolander1]

I'm not going to even answer that since you seem to think a PC is only used for games.

Then why'd you post?
With your recent post contributions with comments like "Domination by Sony" and "PS3 wins", it's pretty clear why you're even in this thread at all.

[Sploitz]

Oh hell no... Not another stuttering piece of ****. Oh well M$ did say that this generation is all about the graphics and so it seems.


I'm starting to think that Ati's GPU desing isn't as good as hyped. The unified shaders does sound good but if those can't be utilised, than what good are they? Maybe nVidias traditional design on the PS3 will show a lot more usability. Only time will tell.

Blah blah blah, sounds like someone needs to buy the game and stop moaning about something he knows little about.

[painkiller]

Blah blah blah, sounds like someone needs to buy the game and stop moaning about something he knows little about.

Maybe you should read the whole thread before posting crap like that. I will be looking into this game quite soon and then I will make my decison on purchasing it. It just seems that there are way too many games with poor framerates wich again shouldn't happen on a closed system.

[seiji-kun]

I just bought Oblivion for the 360 and I really don't see what everyone is complaining about. Frame rate is much better than I was expecting, even when outside. Loading times are a bit long, that's about it. It's better than PDZ imo. I think as devs get more used to the 360 hardware, the better looking, and smoother games will become. There's always a heavy learning curve whenever developing for a new platform, no matter how easy Microsoft may say developing for the 360 is. Add in the fact that we are now talking about a multi-core cpu console, which many devs have already expressed concerns about, as well as the need to make every single game HD ready, we're looking at quite a challenge here. So for the devs of first generation games, they're left with a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation: While learning this complex new hardware, do they play it safe for frame rate issues, risking criticism that their games don't look "next-gen", or do they try to push as much as they currently can, at the sacrifice of fluidity? As you can see, they'd be criticized either way. Remember, when the PS2 first came out, it was graphically on par with the dreamcast in many games. It wasn't until a year or two later when the PS2 was finally able to show off graphics that were without a doubt not possible on a dreamcast. I believe we'll see vast improvements on the 360 as the years go by.

[badboy]

I just bought Oblivion for the 360 and I really don't see what everyone is complaining about. Frame rate is much better than I was expecting, even when outside. Loading times are a bit long, that's about it. It's better than PDZ imo. I think as devs get more used to the 360 hardware, the better looking, and smoother games will become. There's always a heavy learning curve whenever developing for a new platform, no matter how easy Microsoft may say developing for the 360 is. Add in the fact that we are now talking about a multi-core cpu console, which many devs have already expressed concerns about, as well as the need to make every single game HD ready, we're looking at quite a challenge here. So for the devs of first generation games, they're left with a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation: While learning this complex new hardware, do they play it safe for frame rate issues, risking criticism that their games don't look "next-gen", or do they try to push as much as they currently can, at the sacrifice of fluidity? As you can see, they'd be criticized either way. Remember, when the PS2 first came out, it was graphically on par with the dreamcast in many games. It wasn't until a year or two later when the PS2 was finally able to show off graphics that were without a doubt not possible on a dreamcast. I believe we'll see vast improvements on the 360 as the years go by.

yeah ps2 launch game graphics:

[GBZeuS]

OMG THE FRAME RATE SUX???


Does it hell. It is 100% playable and I haven't noticed any stuttering so far.

[gravioli]

I haven't noticed any significant framerate issues. I started the game last night, and after reading a few posts about bad framerates in outdoor areas, I was surprised once I got outside because it was still smooth.

[Clockwork]

I haven't noticed any significant framerate issues. I started the game last night, and after reading a few posts about bad framerates in outdoor areas, I was surprised once I got outside because it was still smooth.

After leaving the initial sewers and coming up along the shore to see part of the city, a huge bridge, water, reflections, etc there was a slowdown. It doesn't happen in too many places, and it's not a general "it happens outdoors" thing. I just happened to be at the right place at the right time...

[GRimm862]

The thread title is about Oblivion, that's what WE are all talking about.
I'm with Clockwork here and don't have huge performance issues with this game on the 360.

HMM, well funny you should say. I believe I said something about xbox360 games in general with there crappy performance. Then you said something about me saying that. So actually we (me/you) were talking about general quality of the games. So zoolander please just STOP

[seiji-kun]

Now that I've played Oblivion more, I've come to believe that the "stuttering" issues most people see in this game is due to loading. As the game isn't installed on the hd as it would be on a PC, the places where the game loads in another area is where the stuttering occurs. Which is mostly outside. If it weren't for that, the game would be practically stutter free imo.

[gravioli]

Now that I've played Oblivion more, I've come to believe that the "stuttering" issues most people see in this game is due to loading. As the game isn't installed on the hd as it would be on a PC, the places where the game loads in another area is where the stuttering occurs. Which is mostly outside. If it weren't for that, the game would be practically stutter free imo.

Yea, loading is the only time I notice significant framerate changes, but IMO this does not ruin the experience.

[Zoolander1]

HMM, well funny you should say. I believe I said something about xbox360 games in general with there crappy performance. Then you said something about me saying that. So actually we (me/you) were talking about general quality of the games. So zoolander please just STOP

STOP yourself. The thread is about framrate issues in Oblivion (see title). Many others including myself have not had game experience ruining performance issues with this game. Apparently neither have all the official reviewers who gave it 9+ ratings. You on the other hand keep trying to bring up your dissatisfaction with your Xbox. Get it? Now get over it.

[blackphoenix]

For those that haven't had the performance issues, do you have the premium versions with the HD?