upcoming government report will detail 'difficult to explain' UFO sightings

[AllexxisF1]

If it's ours then you wouldn't put it anywhere near our military.

If it was Russia or China you wouldn't put it anywhere near our military. Because if war ever broke out you would want to keep this gem tucked far the hell away until you used it for a surprise first wave attack.

Not to mention, our signals and human intelligence would have picked up a project like this on the Russian or Chinese side easily. Because you don't build something like this overnight, and we sure as hell would have found out years ago.

[pax]

I think trying to figure out how is behind this is just gonna discourage the skeptics so we can wait a while before indulging in speculation. But in anycase they dont answer to military radio messages and if they have a human agency behind them its vital we dont shoot at them. Which we have already done via microwave drone killers...

The only thing to do is study the things as much as we can.

[pax]

3 hour UFO talk show on Discovery tho I dont think they will get anything new other than the Corbell release thats imminent.

https://www.discovery.com/dnews/ufo-live0

UFOS DECLASSIFIED: LIVE, a 3-Hour Multiplatform Event, will simulcast LIVE starting at 8 PM ET/5 PM PT on Wednesday, June 30, on Discovery, Science Channel and Travel Channel


Josh Gates of EXPEDITION UNKNOWN will host, questioning top experts including NASA Administrator Bill Nelson; former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid; former Counselor to President Obama John Podesta; and retired senior intelligence officer Bob Wallace.

Other experts will include astrophysicist Dr. Hakeem Oluseyi, physicist and astronomer Robert Weryk, former UK Ministry of Defense employee Nick Pope and intelligence historian Keith Melton. Viewers will also hear from those who’ve dedicated their careers to finding answers to the biggest mysteries – including The X-Files creator Chris Carter, filmmaker and television director Barry Sonnenfeld (Men in Black), founding member of Blink-182 Tom DeLonge, investigative filmmaker Jeremy Corbell, and investigative reporter George. Knapp.

[AllexxisF1]

All this needs is one photograph, one video to light this swashing bathtub of gasoline.

Gonna be interesting what Corbell show us today. Rumor is he was supposed to release some video when the report came out. But it looks like he's sold the video to TMZ or FOX and they're showing it off tonight. I just hope it isn't some potato phone bokeh mess.

[Nunz]

All credibility goes out the window if it's some garbage from TMZ.

[AllexxisF1]

On most things I would agree with you. But they broke the Kobe story and even others.

What matters isn't the outfit that releases it, it's the video itself.

*If its potato phone quality, no one will care. If it's kinda remarkable, then maybe.

Honestly, it's the Discovery panel tomorrow that will be interesting.

[Shapeshifter]

[pax]

https://twitter.com/JeremyCorbell/st...19483893174273

In 2019 U.S. Navy warships were swarmed by UFOs. Over the past months, I’ve provided a large amount of cumulative and corroborate visual data to support this fact. What I’m providing today is video footage - captured from THE DECK of the USS Omaha - by the on-board “VIPER” TEAM.

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https://www.mysterywire.com/ufo/new-...-us-navy-ship/

Another video from a now well-documented UFO encounter with the US Navy off the coast of southern California has been published.

Filmmaker Jeremy Corbell released the video. Corbell, along with Mystery Wire, have confirmed the video was recorded by Navy personnel onboard the USS Omaha. It shows unidentified objects in the air next to the ship.

The video was taken by members of the same VIPR team that recorded the radar screen showing objects and recorded the FLIR screen showing an object appearing to dip in and out of the ocean.

The new video was recorded around 11 p.m. in the pitch darkness of the Pacific Ocean. At one point in the video an object that is blinking can bee seen crossing the field of view, Corbell speculates this was an airplane, but cannot confirm this. The other visible objects are emitting a bright light that appears to change color.

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[Shapeshifter]

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claims a former Director of the Science & Technology Development division for the US Navy states they have multiple craft and are trying to reverse engineer them.

41 min mark or so

Ross Coulthart is a Multi-award-winning investigative journalist with over three decades experience in newspapers and television, including reporting for The Sydney Morning Herald newspaper, ABC TV Four Corners, Nine Network Sunday program and 60 Minutes. Five times winner of Australia’s national journalism prize – the Walkley Award – including the highest award, the Gold Walkley. Winner of a Logie, Australian TV’s top prize (for best public affairs TV reporting), and winner of a New York Film Festival Gold Medal for international investigative journalism.

He is also a Best-selling author with his most recent book “In Plain Sight - An Investigation into UFOs and Impossible Science” being his first book to ever tackle the complex and fascinating issue of UFOs. In this exclusive interview Ross will be, for the very first time, detailing the investigatory journey that led to the creation of his book 'In Plain Sight'.

[Exposed]

When you have to preface an out of this world claim with a justification of his qualifications then credibility goes out the window as well. Reminds me of the award winning journalist who claimed to have been abducted by aliens.

[pax]

So far the Discovery special hasnt said much except for the one testimonial that in 2004 the F18 fighter pilot who recorded the tictac said his radar and targetting were actively jammed by the tictac. I hadnt heard that before.

Not something usually done easily on a US fighter imo.

[AllexxisF1]

It was a great 3hr special for those who don't follow this stuff. It condenses lots of important information into a way that was fun to watch. I was pleasantly surprised to see the interview of the actual pilot that filmed the Tic Tac UFO.

This story is going to be a thing for a good while. What I am encouraged about is that I believe it will begin to snowball within the next few years. Especially when TV and Films start making UFO's a thing again.

Hell, I bet the Discovery channel goes full UFO in the coming year.

Guy Fieri's UFO Show - “We’re takin’ you on a road rockin’ trip up to Flavorspace, where the gravitational force of bacon warps the laws of space and time.”

[pax]

We might get more of that UAP report soon:


https://twitter.com/blackvaultcom/st...87641599254534

The Black Vault
@blackvaultcom
1/ There is movement on my case to get the CLASSIFIED version of the #UAP report reviewed and released. At least portions of it.

As of yesterday morning (I filed EARLY Saturday), the case is already in the system, document is already in their hands, and I'll know more soon.

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2/ Contrary to my norm of not talking about my cases, I will be updating you all as developments happen on this one.

My effort here aims to shed more light on a document that the public has yet to see.

I DO have high hopes we can change that, again, at least in part.

[AllexxisF1]

Congress themselves will be moving to declassify large parts of the report.

It's gonna get leaked, it's inevitable.

[pax]

Dietrich also reported her F18 was jammed in 2004. If they are jamming that means their vehicles arent invulnerable and they are taking precautions.

https://twitter.com/DietrichVFA41/st...74387180048386

[Shapeshifter]

https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/Sear...B=30030606&S=1

some Aussie DoD files from the 70's on the subject.







some highlights

ATIC thinks it's soviets, quickly changes mind towards aliens.
OSI (CIA) studies reports to try and figure out propulsion methods.
USAF working on crash program for anti-gravity power.
Project Sign thinks it's aliens.
USAF embarrsed by this whole situation.
Project Grudge tries to destroy acceptance of UFO's, possibly due to Air force embarrassment or to allow breathing space for another group to reach some conclusion (CIA)
Project Blue book formed to "Debunk" the whole thing, soon neutured and turned into a PR face for the population to feed the public nothing of real value
Component of USAF intelligence considers UFO's were interplanetary spaceships which were about to make closer contact. to prepare the public for this possibility, 41 classified reports were released for publication.
CIA worried mass sightings are overloading military com channels and the soviets could use this to their advantage in the event of an attack.
USAF and Air Defence command take over real investigation from blue book.
JANAP 146 issued in 1953 prohibites service personnel from discussing UFO's with up to 10 years of jail and up to a $10,000 fine.
Revised JANAP 146E passes in 1960, making it an offence under espionage act if UFO data is revealed.

[AllexxisF1]

We will learn more about the US involvement with UFOs from other country's intelligence services than we will from our own.

Now that UFOs are a thing, wouldn't it be smart for young hungry journalists to really go after this story? I mean imagine a young Bob Woodward, getting these declassified documents and going to the U.S. Government, saying other foreign intelligence ops got a handle to what you guys were up to, then push them on the matter.

TBH, I think the U.S. government thinks they are extraterrestrial, but no clue as to what they are.

Or,

They have the craft and know a fair deal about them.

It's either nada or Lazar.

[Canesfan2020]

Have the vulkans been by yet? I'm ready to get my beam up on.

[pax]

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claims a former Director of the Science & Technology Development division for the US Navy states they have multiple craft and are trying to reverse engineer them.

41 min mark or so

Finally got around to watching this. Hope he gets on Joe Rogan soon enough his claims are pretty interesting and cites many a high ranking former or current official... Might have to pick up his book.

[andino]

You must understand, the ODNI cannot lie to the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Oh yes they can. Especially if the Senate Intelligence Committee doesn't have the proper clearance.

[AllexxisF1]

Oh yes they can. Especially if the Senate Intelligence Committee doesn't have the proper clearance.

The Senate Intelligence Committee has the highest clearance because they pay for every project.

You cannot lie to the Senate Intelligence Committee unless you want to go to prison. Especially this report, which is a law, signed by the President.

[pax]

Mellon says the same:

https://www.christophermellon.net/po...-the-uap-issue

What did the much-anticipated report conclude? Here are the key findings:


No evidence that UAPs are secret U.S. aircraft. Surely our government can account for its own aircraft programs when each is worth billions. We also have systemic processes to keep track of classified programs and even DoD “waived” special access programs. Any revolutionary new aircraft programs would cost a fortune and, by law, have to be briefed to a minimum of 8 members of Congress.

[AllexxisF1]

There is a slim possibility that some bureaucrats would be stupid enough to withhold stuff from Congress.

It's highly unlikely, but yes, there is a possibility.

[pax]

https://www.uaptheory.com/

Interesting read again focusing on exotic gravitic propulsion but the cool thing here is that they show the 2013 Puerto Rico sighting and how it manifests lensing like a blackhole can do:



Website is hosted by an astrophysicist.

[andino]

Website is hosted by an astrophysicist.

The only thing I could find that says that they are an astrophysicist is that their twitter account says that they are an astrophysicist. No one lies on twitter.

No name found on the website or their twitter account.

Did an ICANN lookup on the site and drew a blank on the name as well. Did a whois too.

They gave an address :Kalkofnsvegur 2, Reykjavik, Capital Region, 101, IS

It looks to be a parking lot.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ka...!4d-21.9351128

Good news is that the site was registered 1/19/21

https://who.is/whois/uaptheory.com

[pax]

He seems to know his math:

https://www.uaptheory.com/geodesics/

But yeah looks like the fear of being shamed is keeping him incognito for now.

Good old stigma. Any ufo fan would normally love to take credit for a well written up website that gets hits from such as Mellon.

[Exposed]

He seems to know his math:

https://www.uaptheory.com/geodesics/

But yeah looks like the fear of being shamed is keeping him incognito for now.

Good old stigma. Any ufo fan would normally love to take credit for a well written up website that gets hits from such as Mellon.

He doesn't know his math. And that's not how gravitational lensing works. And the energy required to cause any kind of gravitational lensing on earth, well let's just say you would know. This person is not an astrophysicist at all.

He seems to have a fear of being shamed for good reason. If his theory (or any one's theory) truly had merit, he'd have no problems presenting an official paper to a legitimate peer reviewed site where his work can be doubled checked and verified. But his "math" is bunk and that's the reason why you don't see this posted in any peer reviewed site. In fact Arrow tried posting this before as legitimate, it seems to draw on misapplied scientific principals that's easily outed by anyone familiar with physics but can seem plausible to a general audience. This was the first thing that popped out to me when I read his geodesic page and how he attempted to link the equations to UAP trajectories.

You know who else does crap like this? Crackpot "pseudo-scientists" who attempt to invoke or misapply quantum mechanics/quantum entanglement to form some kind of relation to an afterlife, souls, etc..

Really, I suggest stop fishing for links like these. It's more bunk than science and doesn't really help to remove that "stigma" that UFO enthusiasts claim to suffer.

[mizzer]

He doesn't know his math. And that's not how gravitational lensing works. And the energy required to cause any kind of gravitational lensing on earth, well let's just say you would know. This person is not an astrophysicist at all.

He seems to have a fear of being shamed for good reason. If his theory (or any one's theory) truly had merit, he'd have no problems presenting an official paper to a legitimate peer reviewed site where his work can be doubled checked and verified. But his "math" is bunk and that's the reason why you don't see this posted in any peer reviewed site. In fact Arrow tried posting this before as legitimate, it seems to draw on misapplied scientific principals that's easily outed by anyone familiar with physics but can seem plausible to a general audience. This was the first thing that popped out to me when I read his geodesic page and how he attempted to link the equations to UAP trajectories.

You know who else does crap like this? Crackpot "pseudo-scientists" who attempt to invoke or misapply quantum mechanics/quantum entanglement to form some kind of relation to an afterlife, souls, etc..

Really, I suggest stop fishing for links like these. It's more bunk than science and doesn't really help to remove that "stigma" that UFO enthusiasts claim to suffer.

Exposed, what’s your educational background? Did you study physics, etc? I know it’s more of a personal question but I give mad props to physicists and their peers.

[Exposed]

Exposed, what’s your educational background? Did you study physics, etc? I know it’s more of a personal question but I give mad props to physicists and their peers.

I previously mentioned I took several advanced physics and cosmology courses in upstate NY almost 20 years ago, but there's nothing special about this. You can probably take the same level courses in any campus today. But, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to see BS physics and logic when it's presented.

[andino]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodes...ral_relativity

Wikipedia's seems to know his math...



Edit: It kind of looks like that website basically copied and pasted some fancy numbers from wikipedia to make people think they knew what he was talking about.

[Greasy]

Well according to The Cosmic Hoax: An Expose, all the major "shadow" governments have decided that they will continue to use fossil fuel, standard explosives, and spend billions on air planes. While they secretly have the tech to render it all useless tomorrow.

Think about it like this. If China had tech that could defy gravity...

1.. we would all be speaking Chinese now.
2.. we would all be driving hover cars.

[Exposed]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geodes...ral_relativity

Wikipedia's seems to know his math...



Edit: It kind of looks like that website basically copied and pasted some fancy numbers from wikipedia to make people think they knew what he was talking about.

Yep, it's classic copy some equations to make himself look legitimate.

[andino]

You know, we need to send someone to ask the guy if he is for real.

I wonder if he hangs out in that parking lot that he listed as his address....

[pax]

He has a pretty active twitter account why not go challenge him there.

https://twitter.com/UAPTheory/with_replies

[andino]

From dudes Twitter account...

Spacetime is a network of information, like a hard drive. Positions in spacetime are information, motions are changes of information. Specifically, accelerations are increases of (entanglement) entropy. From this, general relativity immediately follows mathematically.

I, really, don't think, I'll discredit that level of thought.

[pax]

Couple interesting reads:

https://www.3af.fr/global/gene/link....c_id=4375&fg=1

French ufo report fairly comprehensive compared to the US one.


https://www.specialaccesspodcast.co....LV8CSArFa3Ehg0

One analysts take on the US report.

[pax]

https://www.uaptheory.com/

Interesting read again focusing on exotic gravitic propulsion but the cool thing here is that they show the 2013 Puerto Rico sighting and how it manifests lensing like a blackhole can do:



Website is hosted by an astrophysicist.

Looks like he bailed. Website is down and his tweets are gone. Probably the Mellon link got him spooked for recognition he wasnt expecting.

Too bad I think he had a decent starting point for discussion. Some were trying to get Eric Weinstein to comment...

[andino]

Or the dude was a quack.

[Shapeshifter]

looks like a DDos attack.

[pax]

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2021/07/...uEH_ILLjFQof0w

According to a recent Forbes piece, which cited an article the previous fall in Combat Aircraft Monthly, Iran tried to intercept what they believed were U.S. spy drones looking at its nuclear facilities.

“According to Iranian sources, the CIA’s intelligence drones displayed astonishing flight characteristics, including an ability to fly outside the atmosphere, attain a maximum cruise speed of Mach 10, and a minimum speed of zero, with the ability to hover over the target,” the Combat Aircraft Monthly story said. “Finally, these drones used powerful ECM that could jam enemy radars using very high levels of magnetic energy, disrupting navigation systems.”

The mystery is what aircraft could possibly fly at Mach 10, which is three times the speed of the famous SR-71 Blackbird.

2014 isnt recent but its there...