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    Originally posted by DeathKnight View Post
    Took a trek out to my local Target this morning. Yes, I wore a mask. They had lots of TP and paper towels, especially big packs.
    TP isn't a problem anymore, but good luck finding sanitizer or 70%+ alchohol.
    "Ok to lose to opponent, must not lose to fear!"
    ~Mr. Myagi.

    "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
    ~George Carlin

    "A man moaning in a pr0n sounds like a cow with a kidney stone."

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      Originally posted by Greasy View Post
      Well anyone dumb enough to try any of that can just darwin themselves. Kinda like that liberal couple that took fish tank cleaner, and the media made it out to be all Trumps fault too. Keep the P/R out of OT please.
      Not only that, but I read the comments and I can see how they could be taken out of context if you are looking for something like that, but if you are just reading it objectively then that is not what he (President) said.
      "Ok to lose to opponent, must not lose to fear!"
      ~Mr. Myagi.

      "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
      ~George Carlin

      "A man moaning in a pr0n sounds like a cow with a kidney stone."

      "It's often not your fault if you have problems, but it is your responsibility to do something about them".

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        Originally posted by MasterGoa View Post
        BTW did a trial not start in end of March in Seattle?
        Yes. Literally both news headlines "First clinical trial of vaccine begins."

        March 17: https://www.forbes.com/sites/victori...ine-in-seattle

        April 22: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-sta...ial/a-53211375 <-This one is Germany.

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          To add a bit of context, right after he insulated treating covid with UV rays on patients
          he said he is not a doctor but was surprised how UV rays effect covid.

          UV rays are being used on different sanitation machines and robots.

          Having said this, I can totally see UV lights used between hot and cold sections of hospitals
          and to reuse PPE...

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            Originally posted by Crawdaddy79 View Post
            Yes. Literally both news headlines "First clinical trial of vaccine begins."

            March 17: https://www.forbes.com/sites/victori...ine-in-seattle

            April 22: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-to-sta...ial/a-53211375 <-This one is Germany.
            Dayum, that trial concludes June 1st...

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              anyone tested cobalt-60 for decontamination? its already used to irradiate food to kill bacteria and virus

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                My Grandmother is in a nursing home in Italy run by nuns. Apparently it's been hit hard with covid cases, and she's in really bad shape. Like final days shape. They are telling my mom that she tested negative, but my mom doesn't know if they're telling her everything. It's killing her not to be able to be there.

                Was talking about this with my wife last week prior to finding out about my Grandmother, about how hard this has to be on the families who are losing loved ones in homes like this, and they can't even say their proper goodbyes.

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                  Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                  My Grandmother is in a nursing home in Italy run by nuns. Apparently it's been hit hard with covid cases, and she's in really bad shape. Like final days shape. They are telling my mom that she tested negative, but my mom doesn't know if they're telling her everything. It's killing her not to be able to be there.

                  Was talking about this with my wife last week prior to finding out about my Grandmother, about how hard this has to be on the families who are losing loved ones in homes like this, and they can't even say their proper goodbyes.
                  Greasy, I'm really sorry your family is going through this.

                  I can't tell right now if knowing we're not alone as all of us know family members or friends who are having to deal with this in their lives makes any of this better or worse.
                  "I'll admit it. I did try and **** her, she was married."
                  "I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married."
                  "I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
                  "Grab them by the pussy."

                  ~Donald J. Trump
                  "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, is that so far none of it has tried to contact us." ~ Calvin & Hobbes
                  "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ John F. Kennedy (1962)

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                    Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                    My Grandmother is in a nursing home in Italy run by nuns. Apparently it's been hit hard with covid cases, and she's in really bad shape. Like final days shape. They are telling my mom that she tested negative, but my mom doesn't know if they're telling her everything. It's killing her not to be able to be there.

                    Was talking about this with my wife last week prior to finding out about my Grandmother, about how hard this has to be on the families who are losing loved ones in homes like this, and they can't even say their proper goodbyes.
                    Add on top of that, that after a person passes away, they can't even hold a proper funeral due. My Step Mom's brother died 3 days ago from a stroke, and as she said, we will hopefully have a memorial or something after this COVID-19 is resolved...

                    It just plain sucks! Can't say your proper goodbyes as family, and nobody can really have memorials for friends to say goodbye or show their respect. Terrible times.
                    I speak my mind! if you can't handle that, you might want to leave, because **** is going to get real!!

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                      Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                      My Grandmother is in a nursing home in Italy run by nuns. Apparently it's been hit hard with covid cases, and she's in really bad shape. Like final days shape. They are telling my mom that she tested negative, but my mom doesn't know if they're telling her everything. It's killing her not to be able to be there.

                      Was talking about this with my wife last week prior to finding out about my Grandmother, about how hard this has to be on the families who are losing loved ones in homes like this, and they can't even say their proper goodbyes.
                      I'm so sorry you and your family are dealing with this Greasy

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                        Originally posted by shrike126 View Post
                        Greasy, I'm really sorry your family is going through this.

                        I can't tell right now if knowing we're not alone as all of us know family members or friends who are having to deal with this in their lives makes any of this better or worse.
                        Thanks man, I'm mostly worried about my Mom. She's going through hell right now. I love my Grandmother, but she doesn't speak English and I don't speak Italian, so it's been a long time since I've been to Italy to see her.

                        This really is a sad situation for Families everywhere. You want to be there for them, and god forbid they do pass. They're not alone or with a stranger. They're with their family.

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                          Originally posted by NWR_Midnight View Post
                          Add on top of that, that after a person passes away, they can't even hold a proper funeral due. My Step Mom's brother died 3 days ago from a stroke, and as she said, we will hopefully have a memorial or something after this COVID-19 is resolved...

                          It just plain sucks! Can't say your proper goodbyes as family, and nobody can really have memorials for friends to say goodbye or show their respect. Terrible times.
                          Yep, it's just sad all around.

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                            Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                            Thanks man, I'm mostly worried about my Mom. She's going through hell right now. I love my Grandmother, but she doesn't speak English and I don't speak Italian, so it's been a long time since I've been to Italy to see her.

                            This really is a sad situation for Families everywhere. You want to be there for them, and god forbid they do pass. They're not alone or with a stranger. They're with their family.
                            This is terrible. I'm so sorry. If there's anything we can do, let us know? We're dealing with something similar on our end, though our families are all domestic at least, it's a similar situation where we can't travel to visit with people who are struggling right now and may not be around for much longer.
                            "I'll admit it. I did try and **** her, she was married."
                            "I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married."
                            "I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
                            "Grab them by the pussy."

                            ~Donald J. Trump
                            "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, is that so far none of it has tried to contact us." ~ Calvin & Hobbes
                            "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ John F. Kennedy (1962)

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                              Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                              This is dedication. They lived in the PA factory to make the raw materials to make PPE for 28 days voluntarily working 12 hour shifts. The company paid them for all 24 hours.

                              https://www.businessinsider.com/work...terials-2020-4

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                                Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                                My Grandmother is in a nursing home in Italy run by nuns. Apparently it's been hit hard with covid cases, and she's in really bad shape. Like final days shape. They are telling my mom that she tested negative, but my mom doesn't know if they're telling her everything. It's killing her not to be able to be there.

                                Was talking about this with my wife last week prior to finding out about my Grandmother, about how hard this has to be on the families who are losing loved ones in homes like this, and they can't even say their proper goodbyes.

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                                  Originally posted by koralis View Post
                                  Mother in law is in a nursing home and tested positive. No symptoms after a week though, maybe she's one of the lucky asymptomatic ones? Time will tell.
                                  In case anyone is curious, past the two week marker and still fine, barring being irritated at being forced to wear a mask.
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                                    Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                                    My Grandmother is in a nursing home in Italy run by nuns. Apparently it's been hit hard with covid cases, and she's in really bad shape. Like final days shape. They are telling my mom that she tested negative, but my mom doesn't know if they're telling her everything. It's killing her not to be able to be there.

                                    Was talking about this with my wife last week prior to finding out about my Grandmother, about how hard this has to be on the families who are losing loved ones in homes like this, and they can't even say their proper goodbyes.
                                    That's horrible, I don't know what else to say other than I'm sorry about that.
                                    "Ok to lose to opponent, must not lose to fear!"
                                    ~Mr. Myagi.

                                    "Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
                                    ~George Carlin

                                    "A man moaning in a pr0n sounds like a cow with a kidney stone."

                                    "It's often not your fault if you have problems, but it is your responsibility to do something about them".

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                                      Originally posted by koralis View Post
                                      In case anyone is curious, past the two week marker and still fine, barring being irritated at being forced to wear a mask.
                                      Great news man, she's beating the odds for sure.

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                                        Originally posted by koralis View Post
                                        In case anyone is curious, past the two week marker and still fine, barring being irritated at being forced to wear a mask.
                                        Sorry to hear she went through that man. Must have missed the init post. Glad to hear she's on the mend though. Hopefully it clears out of there soon, and you guys can visit her.

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                                          Originally posted by koralis View Post
                                          In case anyone is curious, past the two week marker and still fine, barring being irritated at being forced to wear a mask.
                                          Some good news

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                                            Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                                            Sorry to hear she went through that man. Must have missed the init post. Glad to hear she's on the mend though. Hopefully it clears out of there soon, and you guys can visit her.
                                            Actually, she's tested positive, but not suffered in the least for it barring personal indignities such as needing to wear a mask or not being able to sit in the courtyard or receive visitors. Basically, she shrugged. Or it was a false positive. But given that the place has people in it that are experiencing symptoms, that seems unlikely.


                                            A lifelong smoker that won't get cancer and a Covid-19 victim that won't develop symptoms. Someone needs to bottle and sell her DNA.
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                                              Originally posted by koralis View Post
                                              Actually, she's tested positive, but not suffered in the least for it barring personal indignities such as needing to wear a mask or not being able to sit in the courtyard or receive visitors. Basically, she shrugged. Or it was a false positive. But given that the place has people in it that are experiencing symptoms, that seems unlikely.


                                              A lifelong smoker that won't get cancer and a Covid-19 victim that won't develop symptoms. Someone needs to bottle and sell her DNA.
                                              Dude, my great grandpa drank whisky every day, and smoked until he was 94. Some people are just immune to everything.

                                              My great great grandpa lived until I was 5. He would sit around and do something called snuff all day which was some form of chewing or pipe tobacco I think. I think he was in his late 90s when he passed. Apparently they don't make us like they used too!
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                                                Originally posted by koralis View Post
                                                Actually, she's tested positive, but not suffered in the least for it barring personal indignities such as needing to wear a mask or not being able to sit in the courtyard or receive visitors. Basically, she shrugged. Or it was a false positive. But given that the place has people in it that are experiencing symptoms, that seems unlikely.


                                                A lifelong smoker that won't get cancer and a Covid-19 victim that won't develop symptoms. Someone needs to bottle and sell her DNA.
                                                There might be some weird thing with nicotine interaction.
                                                French researchers to test nicotine patches on coronavirus patients
                                                I mean, right now they're pretty much testing everything to see if something sticks, so who knows. Think it was binding of nicotine to similar receptors or something and blocking cytokine storms. I'm most likely misremembering parts of the science behind it as it's been a few days since I've read bits and pieces of the How and Why.


                                                Also on another note, the antibody testing might not be as accurate as stated. Just something to keep in mind.

                                                Yeah yeah, I know twitter post, but it includes a snippet of a NYC Health bulletin update from a couple days ago about why the numbers might not be accurate. Not sure if that information was included in the articles people have been posting about it though.
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                                                  Originally posted by bill dennison
                                                  98&#37; of what you post is P&R
                                                  I've gone back and removed any references to the person or political party or propaganda outlet from my original post to ensure it doesn't offend by existing outside of the P&R subforum.

                                                  Originally posted by shrike126 View Post
                                                  I'm sorry to have to do this. I know I said no P&R content in Off-Topic. But on the off chance that someone we know might hear what [edit: some guy in a position of authority on public health emergencies] said and think it's a plausible cure, no... injecting disinfectant or sunlight will not cure the Covid-19 virus.

                                                  Also, it was previously suggested that hydroxychloroquine was showing promise as a potential treatment for the disease. This was pushed heavily by [edit: insert cable TV entertainment network here] in the U.S. as well as the [edit: some guy in a position of authority on public health emergencies]. Some studies have since shown that this might be killing people and doing zero to help patients.

                                                  Source: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...920v1.full.pdf

                                                  [edit: some guy in a position of authority on public health emergencies] has also been pushing remdesivir as a potential treatment as well. It remains to be seen if this proves to be a successful treatment, but so far the first real study seems to be proving to be less than promising.

                                                  Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52406261
                                                  How's that?

                                                  Originally posted by bill dennison
                                                  it is even in your sig

                                                  we get it you hate him and some of us don't care to hear it .
                                                  As for this part, we've discussed this already as well. The quote isn't from a politician, but from a reality TV show host bragging about sexual assault.

                                                  Originally posted by MasterGoa
                                                  All of the second phrase. And this is after you specifically not to talk about
                                                  any country's dealing in covid 19 as you specified in post 2631.
                                                  But then, in post 2662 you display 105% hypocrisy by being sorry but you have to "save" us...

                                                  Can you try and stop being two faced every single day?

                                                  Also:

                                                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bt6xwz44HA&t=2787
                                                  As mentioned a moment ago I removed references to specific public health officials from my post while still keeping the recommendation against using a disinfectant via injection.

                                                  Does that help?

                                                  Originally posted by MasterGoa
                                                  Report to whom? He is a moderator for this forum and he obviously cannot moderate himself...
                                                  Responded to this via PM.
                                                  Last edited by shrike126; Apr 24, 2020, 02:46 PM.
                                                  "I'll admit it. I did try and **** her, she was married."
                                                  "I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married."
                                                  "I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
                                                  "Grab them by the pussy."

                                                  ~Donald J. Trump
                                                  "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, is that so far none of it has tried to contact us." ~ Calvin & Hobbes
                                                  "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ John F. Kennedy (1962)

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                                                    So my mom has been pleading with the embassy to let her come see her mother, and they said min 14 days quarantine if she does. My Grandmother will die alone, and they said they can't hold the body, so there can be no funeral. I feel so bad for my mom right now. I couldn't imagine if it was her in that situation, and I couldn't be there for her.

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                                                      Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                                                      So my mom has been pleading with the embassy to let her come see her mother, and they said min 14 days quarantine if she does. My Grandmother will die alone, and they said they can't hold the body, so there can be no funeral. I feel so bad for my mom right now. I couldn't imagine if it was her in that situation, and I couldn't be there for her.
                                                      Whoa. That's ****ed. Which embassy is this? Italy?
                                                      "I'll admit it. I did try and **** her, she was married."
                                                      "I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married."
                                                      "I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
                                                      "Grab them by the pussy."

                                                      ~Donald J. Trump
                                                      "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, is that so far none of it has tried to contact us." ~ Calvin & Hobbes
                                                      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ John F. Kennedy (1962)

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                                                        Originally posted by shrike126 View Post
                                                        Whoa. That's ****ed. Which embassy is this? Italy?
                                                        Yeah, the Italian embassy. I have dual citizenship, but my passport expired long ago. I couldn't go if they would let me.

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                                                          Originally posted by Greasy View Post
                                                          Yeah, the Italian embassy. I have dual citizenship, but my passport expired long ago. I couldn't go if they would let me.
                                                          I'm not familiar with how it works. Can she get there through another neighboring country not Italy?
                                                          "I'll admit it. I did try and **** her, she was married."
                                                          "I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married."
                                                          "I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
                                                          "Grab them by the pussy."

                                                          ~Donald J. Trump
                                                          "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, is that so far none of it has tried to contact us." ~ Calvin & Hobbes
                                                          "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ John F. Kennedy (1962)

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                                                            Originally posted by shrike126 View Post
                                                            I'm not familiar with how it works. Can she get there through another neighboring country not Italy?
                                                            From what I understand the borders are pretty much shut down. We're from Northern Italy about 45 min SW of Venice. If she could get into France she might be able to get there, but international travel is pretty much shut down anyway.

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                                                              Originally posted by shrike126 View Post
                                                              I've gone back and removed any references to the person or political party or propaganda outlet from my original post to ensure it doesn't offend by existing outside of the P&R subforum.



                                                              How's that?



                                                              As for this part, we've discussed this already as well. The quote isn't from a politician, but from a reality TV show host bragging about sexual assault.


                                                              As mentioned a moment ago I removed references to specific public health officials from my post while still keeping the recommendation against using a disinfectant via injection.

                                                              Does that help?


                                                              Responded to this via PM.
                                                              If you can advance facts about the subject without injecting your opinion, then yes,
                                                              that is the point.

                                                              However you have to check the balance of your references as well.

                                                              Getting back to the VA tests of H+A, I could not help but notice that H+A
                                                              reduced the number of ventilation by half compared with H only or no drugs.
                                                              They do not mention of patients had previously had an EKG as both
                                                              HCQ and Az have a prolonged Q-T in heart beat as side effect.

                                                              The original French study was very clear that an EKG and identifying a normal
                                                              heartbeat was a pre requisite.

                                                              A disappointing fact about that study is that they claim no effect en ventilation which is not true by the results.

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                                                                Including the Falcon!

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                                                                    Originally posted by bill dennison View Post


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                                                                      104f tomorrow

                                                                      and everyone is calling to check their AC's
                                                                      all at once

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                                                                        Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                                        104f tomorrow

                                                                        and everyone is calling to check their AC's
                                                                        all at once
                                                                        Nice!

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                                                                          Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                                          104f tomorrow

                                                                          and everyone is calling to check their AC's
                                                                          all at once
                                                                          Some people benefit from tragedies; I for one am getting paid more royalties since people have been staying at home and buying more video games!
                                                                          Last edited by Java Cool Dude; Apr 25, 2020, 11:27 AM.

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                                                                            Originally posted by Java Cool Dude View Post
                                                                            Some people benefit from tragedies; I for once am getting paid more royalties since people have been staying at home and buying more video games!
                                                                            Would it be easier if I just PayPal my money directly to you and cut out the middle man?
                                                                            "I'll admit it. I did try and **** her, she was married."
                                                                            "I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married."
                                                                            "I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
                                                                            "Grab them by the pussy."

                                                                            ~Donald J. Trump
                                                                            "Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, is that so far none of it has tried to contact us." ~ Calvin & Hobbes
                                                                            "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ John F. Kennedy (1962)

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                                                                              Originally posted by shrike126 View Post
                                                                              Would it be easier if I just PayPal my money directly to you and cut out the middle man?
                                                                              I wish dawg, I only get 10% discount on Sony merch!

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                                                                                Originally posted by Java Cool Dude View Post
                                                                                Some people benefit from tragedies; I for one am getting paid more royalties since people have been staying at home and buying more video games!
                                                                                My company is paying everyone who shows up to work during this time another $5/hr. I've been taking advantage of it.

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                                                                                There = She is there now.
                                                                                Their = They have their things.
                                                                                They're = They're going to the mall.
                                                                                To = They came to the house.
                                                                                Too = That's too bad.
                                                                                Two = 2.
                                                                                Your = Your dinner is ready.
                                                                                You're = If you're 150lbs you'd better have a 6 pack.

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                                                                                  Originally posted by ice View Post
                                                                                  My company is paying everyone who shows up to work during this time another $5/hr. I've been taking advantage of it.
                                                                                  i was thinking about upping my hourly rate to 80 a hr but with gas prices down i can wait for now

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