So, something that bothered me in the beginning when stories of young people dying from this thing, was that many of them were dying on the kitchen or living room floor. It didn't make sense... No 911 call, no dying in their sleep... Just dropping dead.
They're finding that the virus causes blood to clot and it ends up causing strokes in people who are otherwise handling the disease well.
The new coronavirus appears to be causing sudden strokes in adults in their 30s and 40s who are not otherwise terribly ill, doctors reported Wednesday.
Drink plenty of water, kids. Increased alcohol consumption during this lockdown phase may be contributing to this demographic's death count.
That's nuts! No wonder this spread so fast. People walking around with it, and having no idea.
It's hard to judge if this is 3,000 people sampled across all of NYC? Which is roughly 8M people? At a 14% exposure rate that suggests over 1M people in the NYC area have been exposed to the Covid-19 virus?
That's good? I think? If that is an accurate measure, and there isn't something self-selecting about those tested for antibodies.
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That's good? I think? If that is an accurate measure, and there isn't something self-selecting about those tested for antibodies.
The more people that are infected and not laid-up/dead the better the news. Eventually that won't be 14%, it'll be 85%.... it's just a matter of time. If the hospitalization rate is low, that's wonderful news. How they chose the people is less important to my mind than the ratio of exposed/hospitalized.
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The more people that are infected and not laid-up/dead the better the news. Eventually that won't be 14%, it'll be 85%.... it's just a matter of time. If the hospitalization rate is low, that's wonderful news. How they chose the people is less important to my mind than the ratio of exposed/hospitalized.
Problem is the virus has already mutated 30 times, they could very likely catch it again. This is going to be a year round virus, the likes of which similar to the common cold (which you can also catch year round) only much more severe.
I hope that out of this whole virus fiasco that businesses finally learn not to make people who are genuinely sick (not just with covid-19) come into work sick and infect everybody else.
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Problem is the virus has already mutated 30 times, they could very likely catch it again. This is going to be a year round virus, the likes of which similar to the common cold (which you can also catch year round) only much more severe.
I've said that since the very beginning, but it doesn't matter a whole lot. If 90% of the people exposed show no symptoms, then it doesn't matter if they get exposed to a new strain that they're still going to shrug off.
Granted a different strain might not get caught/stopped the way they did the first time, but it's promising.
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I've said that since the very beginning, but it doesn't matter a whole lot. If 90% of the people exposed show no symptoms, then it doesn't matter if they get exposed to a new strain that they're still going to shrug off.
Granted a different strain might not get caught/stopped the way they did the first time, but it's promising.
But they didn't show symptoms to the strain they caught, not the new ones that mutated. They could now catch it and show symptoms, similar to how different cold strains affect people differently when you sometimes have mild colds and more severe colds.
Basically, just because they got off easy the first time doesn't mean the next time they catch it they won't get hid hard.
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I am no microbiologist, but it seems to me that if you're naturally immune to it, you would be positive on the antibody test regardless of whether you've been exposed.
I am no microbiologist, but it seems to me that if you're naturally immune to it, you would be positive on the antibody test regardless of whether you've been exposed.
Yet the numbers are very different in different locations.
I am no microbiologist, but it seems to me that if you're naturally immune to it, you would be positive on the antibody test regardless of whether you've been exposed.
I don't understand how someone would naturally be immune to it. I don't think this is a virus anyone has ever been exposed to before to generate any natural immunity.
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A Meridian woman was arrested April 21 on a misdemeanor charge after violating part of the City of Meridian's lockdown of some facilities during the COVID-19 pandemic.
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I'm sorry to have to do this. I know I said no P&R content in Off-Topic. But on the off chance that someone we know might hear what [edit: some guy in a position of authority on public health emergencies] said and think it's a plausible cure, no... injecting disinfectant or sunlight will not cure the Covid-19 virus.
Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light ... and then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re gonna test that,” Trump said, addressing Bryan. “And then I see disinfectant, where it knocks it [coronavirus] out in a minute — one minute — and is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it’d be interesting to check that. So, that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.”
Also, it was previously suggested that hydroxychloroquine was showing promise as a potential treatment for the disease. This was pushed heavily by [edit: insert cable TV entertainment network here] in the U.S. as well as the [edit: some guy in a position of authority on public health emergencies]. Some studies have since shown that this might be killing people and doing zero to help patients.
[edit: some guy in a position of authority on public health emergencies] has also been pushing remdesivir as a potential treatment as well. It remains to be seen if this proves to be a successful treatment, but so far the first real study seems to be proving to be less than promising.
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"Grab them by the pussy."
"Sometimes I think the surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe, is that so far none of it has tried to contact us." ~ Calvin & Hobbes
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ John F. Kennedy (1962)
Well anyone dumb enough to try any of that can just darwin themselves. Kinda like that liberal couple that took fish tank cleaner, and the media made it out to be all Trumps fault too. Keep the P/R out of OT please.
I'm sorry to have to do this. I know I said no P&R content in Off-Topic. But on the off chance that someone we know might hear what the President of the U.S. says and think it's a plausible cure, no... injecting disinfectant or sunlight will not cure the Covid-19 virus.
Most of your post is not P&R. Quoting the president, laying out what you think about the statements generally should be okay.
It's when you get to the point that you shut down all opposing opinions by (in not so many words) saying that anyone who doesn't think the same way that you do must be total idiots. That's when it gets touchy.
News that hopeful cures to the disease are not working out definitely belong in this thread.
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I'm sorry to have to do this. I know I said no P&R content in Off-Topic. But on the off chance that someone we know might hear what the President of the U.S. says and think it's a plausible cure, no... injecting disinfectant or sunlight will not cure the Covid-19 virus.
Also, it was previously suggested that hydroxychloroquine was showing promise as a potential treatment for the disease. This was pushed heavily by Fox News in the U.S. as well as the President. Some studies have since shown that this might be killing people and doing zero to help patients.
Trump's administration has also been pushing remdesivir as a potential treatment as well. It remains to be seen if this proves to be a successful treatment, but so far the first real study seems to be proving to be less than promising.
In lab tests it takes 30 minutes at 133 F to kill the virus. It takes 158 F to kill it in 5 minutes. (I am guessing this is only on surfaces) I guess you can lock yourself in your car and it might work... if you live thru it. But hey.. the virus will be dead too!
In an experiment using SARS-CoV-2 in a lab solution, increasing temperature decreased the amount of viable virus that could be detected, according to an April 2 study in the Lancet Microbe. No infectious virus remained after 30 minutes at 56° Celsius (133° Fahrenheit). And just five minutes at 70° C was enough to inactivate the pathogen.
While some evidence has suggested higher temperatures can affect coronavirus transmission, summer’s arrival probably won’t curb the pandemic much.
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On Thursday, US President Donald Trump suggested that scientists may want to explore bringing UV light inside the body to kill a Covid-19 infection, or should consider the use of disinfectant that "knocks it out in a minute ... by injection inside or almost a cleaning."
Don't eat or inject yourself with disinfectant, warns FDA commissioner
"I certainly wouldn't recommend the internal ingestion of a disinfectant," said US Food and Drug Administration commissioner Dr. Stephen Hahn, who is also a member of the White House coronavirus task force.
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In lab tests it takes 30 minutes at 133 F to kill the virus. It takes 158 F to kill it in 5 minutes. (I am guessing this is only on surfaces) I guess you can lock yourself in your car and it might work... if you live thru it. But hey.. the virus will be dead too!
I am glad it can't live on my CPU core as I don't want any viruses there!
You say that, but I constantly have it in mind that while sitting right next to my tower while its folding is killing any virus that I may be expelling.
Took and trek out to my local Target this morning. Yes, I wore a mask. They had lots of TP and paper towels, especially big packs.
I went to Costco on Wednesday. No toilet paper, but had plenty of paper towels. Spent $600+ at that godforsaken place on mostly groceries and household items. No TVs or anything.
So does this mean UK is leading the new vaccine arms race for Covid-19?
London — In the global scramble for a COVID-19 vaccine, a select number of human trials are now under way, but it's scientists from England's University of Oxford who appear most confident that they're onto a cure. Professor Sarah Gilbert heads the Oxford team behind the potential vaccine being developed in partnership with the Jenner Institute. She's said it has an "80% chance" of success, and it could be available for wide use by the public as soon as September.
Human trials of the vaccine began Thursday in Oxford. It will be administered to 510 healthy volunteers between the ages of 18 and 55.
U.K. Health Secretary Matt Hancock has said the government is "throwing everything" at efforts in the country to create a COVID-19 vaccine. He's pledged around $25 million in public funding for the Oxford project and an additional $27 million to research initiatives at Imperial College London. He says the U.K. is "at the front of the global effort" to find a vaccine.
From the article. I'd still caution against getting hopes up that this will work. Vaccines generally take years if not decades to test thoroughly. And a 20% chance (they're guesstimating I'm sure) of failure is HUGE.
But it is nice to see some potential for optimism.
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"I moved on her like a bitch. I couldn't get there and she was married."
"I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."
"Grab them by the pussy."
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ John F. Kennedy (1962)
This is dedication. They lived in the PA factory to make the raw materials to make PPE for 28 days voluntarily working 12 hour shifts. The company paid them for all 24 hours.
From the article. I'd still caution against getting hopes up that this will work. Vaccines generally take years if not decades to test thoroughly. And a 20% chance (they're guesstimating I'm sure) of failure is HUGE.
But it is nice to see some potential for optimism.
Even if it turns out to work some, it would be better than what we have today. It's not like we have "real" vaccine today for influenza. i.e. it doesn't stop you from getting influenza, it just helps the body learn how to fight it quicker so it can reduce the effect if you do get it. As far as medicine has come, there is still so much humans can't understand/explain about the human body. Here's to hoping a Star Trek tricorder gets developed in my lifetime to heal me without taking a shot.
So does this mean UK is leading the new vaccine arms race for Covid-19?
From the article. I'd still caution against getting hopes up that this will work. Vaccines generally take years if not decades to test thoroughly. And a 20% chance (they're guesstimating I'm sure) of failure is HUGE.
But it is nice to see some potential for optimism.
This is dedication. They lived in the PA factory to make the raw materials to make PPE for 28 days voluntarily working 12 hour shifts. The company paid them for all 24 hours.
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