Official Thread: Coronavirus "COVID-19"

[Munkus]

WHO: COVID-19 doesn't stay in the air. 6 feet apart should be fine.
https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1244258441880797184

Scientists: Oh but yes it does.
https://www.news18.com/news/tech/cov...y-2559667.html

Bottom line, we are still learning about this virus, what it's capable of, who's at most risk, and how/when it's transmitted. Stay home if you can. If you can't...well...it's a much bigger risk than previously thought.

[Crawdaddy79]

I swear the news keeps repeating itself.

From March 17:

Their study, which has been published in the New England Journal of Medicine, shows that the virus could survive in droplets for up to three hours after being coughed out into the air. Fine droplets between 1-5 micrometres in size – about 30 times smaller than the width of a human hair – can remain airborne for several hours in still air.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2...st-on-surfaces

[pax]

2-3 hours? I think that is just in aerosol form. Once it’s in a surface it’s a lot longer.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/18/coro...udy-shows.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/23/cdc-...gers-left.html

Older article said 3 hours on clothing this new one says hours to a day at most.

Almost all articles say this thing is mostly communicated by breathing it in.

“I suspect that you can find viability of the virus for several hours to maybe a day on clothes,” infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in Maryland, tells Health. “It depends largely on the environmental conditions—temperature and humidity impact the growth of the virus.”

In general, Dr. Adalja says he doesn’t believe that clothes act as a “major vehicle spread” for the new coronavirus.

https://www.health.com/condition/inf...ive-on-clothes

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...advice-on-wipe

I know the virus can live on hard surfaces. What about clothing?

It probably can — but you shouldn't be overly worried. Here's why.

So far, there aren't scientific findings on how long the virus can live on fabric. But fabrics are generally porous — as is cardboard, which has been tested. And a recent study did find that the virus can live on cardboard for up to 24 hours.

"The thing that you have to consider, though, is that those tests are done in ideal testing circumstances," says Rachel Graham, a virologist at the University of North Carolina. "That's like in some kind of hermetically sealed box where there's no fluctuation in humidity, there's no wind, there's nothing that can contribute toward desiccating the virus. And so desiccation — or drying out the virus — would actually reduce the amount of time it's actually viable on any kind of surface."

Plus, porousness is a good thing when it comes to avoiding viral transmission. A surface that is permeable, like a fabric, tends to trap viruses more easily than hard surfaces.

"It's less at risk of transmitting because the virus gets kind of stuck to the [porous] surface, and so it can't be easily transferred back off of it," Graham says. "Porous surfaces also suck the fluid out of it. The viral membrane is a lipid membrane, and so if that becomes dried out, it's basically done, infectivity-wise."

[Lazy8s]

A llittle good news on the front. It's not a vaccine, but it's a good start.
https://news.google.com/articles/CBM...S&ceid=US%3Aen

BEIJING (Reuters) - A team of Chinese scientists has isolated several antibodies that it says are "extremely effective" at blocking the ability of the new coronavirus to enter cells, which eventually could be helpful in treating or preventing COVID-19.

There is currently no proven effective treatment for the disease, which originated in China and is spreading across the world in a pandemic that has infected more than 850,000 and killed 42,000.


Zhang Linqi at Tsinghua University in Beijing said a drug made with antibodies like the ones his team have found could be used more effectively than the current approaches, including what he called "borderline" treatment such as plasma.

Plasma contains antibodies but is restricted by blood type.

In early January, Zhang's team and a group at the 3rd People's Hospital in Shenzhen began analysing antibodies from blood taken from recovered COVID-19 patients, isolating 206 monoclonal antibodies which showed what he described as a "strong" ability to bind with the virus' proteins.

[SirBaron]

I was just notified that my wife's co-worker tested positive. And the wife just saw her and spent time with her at the office late last week when she went in to print invoices.

This morning wifey woke up 2 hours early with symptoms, so it looks like we've both been exposed.

And I had to carry my Mom this past weekend as she was too weak to walk after her chemo treatment.

The call is out to our doctor and I have to notify my supervisor...

****, sending hopes and love that everything turns out fine!

[Lazy8s]

****, sending hopes and love that everything turns out fine!

Thank you

[dodger]

I was just notified that my wife's co-worker tested positive. And the wife just saw her and spent time with her at the office late last week when she went in to print invoices.

This morning wifey woke up 2 hours early with symptoms, so it looks like we've both been exposed.

And I had to carry my Mom this past weekend as she was too weak to walk after her chemo treatment.

The call is out to our doctor and I have to notify my supervisor...

Hope if it is it then its just mild symptoms which still is around 80% of cases even with a lot of new data. Then if it is you are all immune for at least a few months!

Dr. John Campbell just posted a video saying Thailand might have an antibody test where you put in a drop of blood and you wait for two bars to show up just like a pregnancy test.

[bill dennison]

I was just notified that my wife's co-worker tested positive. And the wife just saw her and spent time with her at the office late last week when she went in to print invoices.

This morning wifey woke up 2 hours early with symptoms, so it looks like we've both been exposed.

And I had to carry my Mom this past weekend as she was too weak to walk after her chemo treatment.

The call is out to our doctor and I have to notify my supervisor...

my hopes and best for you and yours

[acroig]

my hopes and best for you and yours

Seconded.

[Android1]

My wife’s best friend’s mom has all the symptoms now. She’s been tested but the results will take another day or two. She’s 84 years old and pretty frail. This will likely be it for her.

I am sorry to hear that, Munkus.

I was just notified that my wife's co-worker tested positive. And the wife just saw her and spent time with her at the office late last week when she went in to print invoices.

This morning wifey woke up 2 hours early with symptoms, so it looks like we've both been exposed.

And I had to carry my Mom this past weekend as she was too weak to walk after her chemo treatment.

The call is out to our doctor and I have to notify my supervisor...

Best wishes to you and your family.

[ice]

Second positive case in the warehouse today from the same area. They will now be taking our temps in the parking lot before we enter, if it's over the CDC limit we'll be sent home.

[globalist]

For some level-headed perspective:

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[jimjobob]

Second positive case in the warehouse today from the same area. They will now be taking our temps in the parking lot before we enter, if it's over the CDC limit we'll be sent home.

And by then, you will have already had ample time to share it with all your friends.

[Munkus]

And by then, you will have already had ample time to share it with all your friends.

By the time anyone experiences symptoms, they've had several days to spread it around. Quarantining only when you have symptoms is not enough.

[Lazy8s]

By the time anyone experiences symptoms, they've had several days to spread it around. Quarantining only when you have symptoms is not enough.

^^^ This is essentially the "guidance" my supervisor was just directed to forward to me. BAU until I show symptoms.

[ice]

And by then, you will have already had ample time to share it with all your friends.

By the time anyone experiences symptoms, they've had several days to spread it around. Quarantining only when you have symptoms is not enough.

Yep, exactly. Oh well, If any of us get it all of IT will be home getting paid, not sure how they're going to function then. What are you going to do? Any one of us can have it and not know for 14 days. These kinds of things are futile but short of closing doors there isn't really anything you can do.

[acroig]

Yep, exactly. Oh well, If any of us get it all of IT will be home getting paid, not sure how they're going to function then. What are you going to do? Any one of us can have it and not know for 14 days. These kinds of things are futile but short of closing doors there isn't really anything you can do.

Agreed.

[Athena]

Second positive case in the warehouse today from the same area. They will now be taking our temps in the parking lot before we enter, if it's over the CDC limit we'll be sent home.

That is funny not all people run temps. I almost died from scarlet fervor and was only runner a 2 degree temp. And my normal body temp is 1.5 degrees lower than normal. So I would come off as fine.

I normally only know when I am running a fever if I am having night sweats

[shrike126]

That is funny not all people run temps. I almost died from scarlet fervor and was only runner a 2 degree temp. And my normal body temp is 1.5 degrees lower than normal. So I would come off as fine.

I normally only know when I am running a fever if I am having night sweats

It also doesn't make any sense when the medical community's consensus seems to be that you can be contagious for about a week without displaying any symptoms or signs of Covid-19 at all. No temperature, no cough, nothing. You're just cruising around for about a week, getting others sick, and then you start to feel bad.

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Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVIGhz3uwuQ

[bill dennison]

It also doesn't make any sense when the medical community's consensus seems to be that you can be contagious for about a week without displaying any symptoms or signs of Covid-19 at all. No temperature, no cough, nothing. You're just cruising around for about a week, getting others sick, and then you start to feel bad.

[YT]FVIGhz3uwuQ[/YT]

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVIGhz3uwuQ

a lot never get sick and or write it off as a cold

[Shapeshifter]

Pentagon is trying to get 100,000 body bags for FEMA after they requested them.

[Munkus]

Pentagon is trying to get 100,000 body bags for FEMA after they requested them.

Sauce?

[shrike126]

Sauce?

Here's a source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-virus-crisis

[nutcrackr]

USA almost has more cases than Italy and Spain combined.

[Pr3tty F1y]

For some level-headed perspective:

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I watched for about 10 minutes and I couldn't take any more. While the man is not wrong, he talks a lot about nothing.

Even funnier/scarier are the comments. These days with YouTube comments, you find a video that validates someone's non-reality based views and the comments section blows up.

Yes, we have limited data. However, that video is already vastly out of date.

And while people want to find solace in a professor who talks in ambiguities and other videos where people in the comments blame Bill Gates for some how financing/profiting from coronavirus, Fountains of Wayne singer, Adam Schlesinger has died of COVID-19. I hope he gets to hook up with Stacy's mom.

[VVanks]

Are any other Asians here feeling the hatred and racism towards us?

I've heard genocide against our people, nuking/sanctioning us back to the stone age, and much much more.

First, it was anti-government protests, I could see why. I wanna see improvements too. I even kinda understood their purpose.

Then it was anti-Chinese people 'cause apparently "we" support the government, okay.

It is now about anti-Chinese culture... okay I see where this is going.

I await the gas chambers fellas.

The misinformation going around is tremendous, and the sheer amount of propaganda going around is intense to the point where some of it is so easily debunked, it just takes 2 seconds.

Anyway don't want to hijack this thread. Haven't posted here in a while.

[Pr3tty F1y]

Are any other Asians here feeling the hatred and racism towards us?

I've heard genocide against our people, nuking/sanctioning us back to the stone age, and much much more.

First, it was anti-government protests, I could see why. I wanna see improvements too. I even kinda understood their purpose.

Then it was anti-Chinese people 'cause apparently "we" support the government, okay.

It is now about anti-Chinese culture... okay I see where this is going.

I await the gas chambers fellas.

The misinformation going around is tremendous, and the sheer amount of propaganda going around is intense to the point where some of it is so easily debunked, it just takes 2 seconds.

Anyway don't want to hijack this thread. Haven't posted here in a while.

There's a lot of ****ing stupid people out there and this crisis is bringing them out of the wood work.

[Canesfan2020]

Are any other Asians here feeling the hatred and racism towards us?

I've heard genocide against our people, nuking/sanctioning us back to the stone age, and much much more.

First, it was anti-government protests, I could see why. I wanna see improvements too. I even kinda understood their purpose.

Then it was anti-Chinese people 'cause apparently "we" support the government, okay.

It is now about anti-Chinese culture... okay I see where this is going.

I await the gas chambers fellas.

The misinformation going around is tremendous, and the sheer amount of propaganda going around is intense to the point where some of it is so easily debunked, it just takes 2 seconds.

Anyway don't want to hijack this thread. Haven't posted here in a while.

There are Asians here?

[Crawdaddy79]

*** IN RESPONSE TO ME ACCUSING ITALY OF FUDGING THEIR NUMBERS FOR EU EMERGENCY MONEY

Nope.

According to the mayor of the hardest hit city they are under counting in fact.

https://translate.google.ca/translat...b63c3b648e6263

here are elderly people who die at home, in convents, in monasteries who cannot even get on the ambulance. They don't even go to hospitals. Confirmation?

That's what's going on. In this province the number of deaths due to the virus is far higher than that of official statistics. Many elderly patients die of pneumonia at home, or in nursing homes, without anyone having swabbed them, either before or after death. I called a dozen mayors to get an idea: in those municipalities the number of deaths attributable to the epidemic is roughly four times the official one.

I doubted this. But then the WSJ posted this data:



This was the data missing from everything I see. Overall deaths this year compared to previous years. No one with half a brain can look at this chart and deny this is a nasty, nasty, nasty ****ing bug.

Source: https://www.wsj.com/articles/italys-...ed-11585767179

[nutcrackr]

70 students went to Mexico for spring break. 44 got covid-19. Some took commercial flights.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...rnd/index.html

[Android1]

Are any other Asians here feeling the hatred and racism towards us?

I've heard genocide against our people, nuking/sanctioning us back to the stone age, and much much more.

First, it was anti-government protests, I could see why. I wanna see improvements too. I even kinda understood their purpose.

Then it was anti-Chinese people 'cause apparently "we" support the government, okay.

It is now about anti-Chinese culture... okay I see where this is going.

I await the gas chambers fellas.

The misinformation going around is tremendous, and the sheer amount of propaganda going around is intense to the point where some of it is so easily debunked, it just takes 2 seconds.

Anyway don't want to hijack this thread. Haven't posted here in a while.

Welcome back, VVanks.

Do you live in Hong Kong? When you said "anti-government protests," that was the first place that came to my mind. If so, are you referring to prejudice against mainland Chinese people?

[bill dennison]

70 students went to Mexico for spring break. 44 got covid-19. Some took commercial flights.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...rnd/index.html

is mexico fudging it's numbers also ?

how do 44 out of 70 get sick in mexico when they say they only have 1,151 cases

[Cyko]

70 students went to Mexico for spring break. 44 got covid-19. Some took commercial flights.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/artic...rnd/index.html

Let them get better, then charge them and stick them in jail. You want to be that stupid you can do so in a 6x8 cell.

Morons.

[bill dennison]

Let them get better, then charge them and stick them in jail. You want to be that stupid you can do so in a 6x8 cell.

Morons.

poor little rich kids


Let them get better and give them their draft notice

[pax]

is mexico fudging it's numbers also ?

how do 44 out of 70 get sick in mexico when they say they only have 1,151 cases

All the numbers are fudged. Estimates right now vary from 25% to 50% of people are spreading it without symptoms. And we've known for months that you are contagious before developing symptoms.

Govs are pretty much only in a public relations campaign at this point. Try to avoid and minimize panic and blowback for their decades of mistakes, negligence and abuses. We could have been ready for this but we arent and wont be in time. The only thing now is if we'll be lucky enough to see most get it but not get sick. But its not looking good:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/healt...day/index.html

Concerning new data from Iceland shows 50% of those who tested positive said they were asymptomatic.

In the US, an estimated 25% of coronavirus carriers have no symptoms, said the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"Information that we have pretty much confirmed now is that a significant number of individuals that are infected actually remain asymptomatic. That may be as many as 25%," CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield told NPR.

Great for the 25% to 50% of people who AFAWK wont ever get sick but they are spreading it to those who will be.

[pax]

Let them get better, then charge them and stick them in jail. You want to be that stupid you can do so in a 6x8 cell.

Morons.

Im wondering if they tested all the kids.

Remember Typhoid Mary? Imagine a million of them.

[Munkus]

Here's a source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-virus-crisis

Thanks. Holy crap.

[nutcrackr]

is mexico fudging it's numbers also ?

how do 44 out of 70 get sick in mexico when they say they only have 1,151 cases

To be honest I think it's more likely that one kid had the virus and gave it to the rest of them.

[Shapeshifter]

New York converting all of it's hospitals into ICU only.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/01/n...gtype=Homepage

To meet the expected demand, the city’s public hospital system plans to convert all of its facilities to intensive care units, officials said, adding that supplies and personnel were crucial to increasing the number of I.C.U. beds.

Patients who do not have the virus will be sent to large-scale temporary hospitals, like the one set up at the Javits Convention Center, or to hotels that are being converted into temporary medical facilities. So far, the city had secured 10,000 beds from 20 hotels, officials said.

Nut jobs coming out of the wood work.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-faces-threats
Dr Fauci: security reportedly expanded as infectious disease expert faces threats

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...mercy-n1174461
Feds charge man with intentionally derailing train near USNS Mercy
Authorities said the suspect told investigators he wanted to bring attention to the government's activities regarding COVID-19.

The complaint alleges that when the officer approached him, Moreno said: "You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to. People don't know what's going on here. Now they will."

The affidavit said Moreno, who waived his right to speak to an attorney before being interviewed by investigators, admitted in two post-arrest interviews that he intentionally ran the train off the track because he wanted to bring attention to the government's activities regarding COVID-19 and was suspicious of the Mercy.

In his first interview with Los Angeles port police, Moreno acknowledged that he "did it," saying he was suspicious of the Mercy and believed it had an alternative purpose related to COVID-19 or a government takeover, the affidavit states.

[pax]

Contact tracing will be the last tool in the bucket to stop the spread until a vaccine. Tho Im doubtful it can work at this point here, they did make it work in other countries who are going back to normal like Singapore.

It would mean applying very harsh quarantine terms to those traced now tho.


https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-...ontact-tracing

IEEE Spectrum: What is conventional contact tracing?

Ramesh Raskar: It’s back-tracing the steps of the patient, trying to find every individual who might have come in contact [with them] over the last two weeks or so. It’s very manual and involves interviews and phone calls.

Spectrum: Is it effective?

Raskar: As long as the patient didn’t fly or take a bus or attend a large event, you can do a reasonably good job. The best case scenario is you find people within close contact of the infected person, but you can almost never find the close contacts’ contacts.