Official Thread: Coronavirus "COVID-19"

[bill dennison]

i don't need hair remover

thanks

[bob saget]

i don't need hair remover

disagree.

[pax]

wtf...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51810673

Italy has extended its emergency coronavirus measures, which include travel restrictions and a ban on public gatherings, to the entire country.

On Monday, Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte ordered people to stay home and seek permission for essential travel.

He said the measures were designed to protect the most vulnerable. "There is no more time," he said in a TV address.

The entire country is told to stay at home...

Mr Conte described the measures as "I stay home" - with people forbidden to gather in public. "No more nightlife; we can't allow this anymore since they are occasions for contagion," he said.

All sporting events - including football matches - are suspended nationwide. Schools and universities will remain closed until 3 April.

[nutcrackr]

Best decision but still not enough. Every country in Europe with more than 50 infections should do the same.

[Vanz_007]

I would think through all this, small businesses are going to get hit really hard, hopefully governments will help them out

[pax]

Best decision but still not enough. Every country in Europe with more than 50 infections should do the same.

Its either an overreaction or not. Having the SARS virus pop out in all 22 provinces after they locked down 3 just a week ago might be showing us that quarantine wont work with this bug. Or that what we consider quarantine will have to become much more intrusive than what we expected to get this thing snuffed out.

[nutcrackr]

CDC data now confirms that to date there have only been ~4000 persons tested in the entire United States total. By comparison, South Korea - a much smaller country - had tested over 65,000 people in the first week after their first case was detected.

Note that totals must be divided by 2 since a diagnosis requires 2 tests for each person (each for a different viral DNA segment).

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...ing-in-us.html

[Athena]

"Have you traveled outside the US in the last 2 weeks or been with some that has? Then we may or may not test you." You can have all the symptoms and they still may not test you unless you answer one of those two questions with a yes. Unless the US gets better standards for testing we are letting many people that possible have the virus slip through undetected. This is why South Korea is testing so effectively and we are not.

[DaJMasta]

Was at a rehearsal with a geriatric doctor in the orchestra yesterday and he got up and spoke on the subject at the break. He said that just recently (last few days) private labs in the US have been able to start testing for it, so his practice's policy is that if you have two of the three major symptoms - fever, shortness of breath, coughing - and one of them is fever, they will test you, by default. He also deals with the most at-risk age group, and this is in Montgomery County, MD where there are confirmed cases, but while the number of cases in the US is still on the rise, it does seem that some degree of testing is actually becoming available.

[Lazy8s]

Was at a rehearsal with a geriatric doctor in the orchestra yesterday and he got up and spoke on the subject at the break. He said that just recently (last few days) private labs in the US have been able to start testing for it, so his practice's policy is that if you have two of the three major symptoms - fever, shortness of breath, coughing - and one of them is fever, they will test you, by default. He also deals with the most at-risk age group, and this is in Montgomery County, MD where there are confirmed cases, but while the number of cases in the US is still on the rise, it does seem that some degree of testing is actually becoming available.

My doctor will test according to symptoms as well, when he has the means to do so. Which means if he has kits in two weeks when I finally get in there, I'll be getting tested.

[AllexxisF1]

Great update this morning by Dr. Campbell. Apparently there was a study done in China following the movement of an infected patient and how they have infected others on a bus.

By tracing it back and utilizing the onboard camera, they were able to determine that the sick person infected the other 4.5 meters away. Which means the aerosol transmission of the virus is twice long as once thought.

Also, the third person to be infected on that bus, entered the bus 30 minutes after the initial sick person left. Which means the virus hung in the air for 30 minutes. The transmission wasn't from droplets because they sat nowhere near the other two people.

They also tested the viability of the virus at 98' F and it survived for three days. So warmer weather isn't going to be much help here.

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[curio]

Two Stanford doctors got infected while dealing with an infected patient, even though they were wearing head to toe protective gear and following Ebola protocols

Sucker is very contagious

[AllexxisF1]

Two Stanford doctors got infected while dealing with an infected patient, even though they were wearing head to toe protective gear and following Ebola protocols

Sucker is very contagious

Do you got a link to that story Brother?

[curio]

Do you got a link to that story Brother?

edit: found it - it was in the the post that Java Cool Dude made last night but he deleted it lol

[AllexxisF1]

And there is it. NY National Guard is being called in.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/corona...ry?id=69498726

[curio]

Wow

[DeathKnight]

They also tested the viability of the virus at 98' F and it survived for three days. So warmer weather isn't going to be much help here.

The whole warmer weather thing isn't about the virus survivability but people's boosted immune systems.

[AllexxisF1]

The whole warmer weather thing isn't about the virus survivability but people's boosted immune systems.

Wouldn't it be both?

[curio]

I would think low winter humidity also has something to do with it, as airborne droplets can stay suspended longer and travel much farther in low humidity conditions

[Athena]

I would think low winter humidity also has something to do with it, as airborne droplets can stay suspended longer and travel much farther in low humidity conditions

They were talking about that in the HSA webinar. We have 2 new confirmed cases in the county next to mine. They are under at home quarantine and the local CDC is trying to track down everyone they had contact with to test them. This will stretch things for us here in WI as we jut got out test kits last week. Glad we have help from the Fed CDC as well.

Got family in that county so I am hoping they do not show up on that list. Everyone is guessing it is in the UW system, which is where my family is, they are students.

My work place is looking to start up the work at home BCP protocol by next Tuesday to have it ready to go. Also managers have been told to tell their people if you have a temperature or cough stay home, no exceptions. HR is going to adjust the sick time codes to reflect the new rules. As the IT guy I get to interact with everyone to give them the equipment so they can then work from home.

I am not happy about that as I already have a compromised immune system from past illnesses as well as my bad asthma and just recovering from pneumonia. If I get this for sure or again I am prob not long for this world. lol

But then I guess I get to see what is next before the rest of ya Ragers!

[Vanz_007]

I am not happy about that as I already have a compromised immune system from past illnesses as well as my bad asthma and just recovering from pneumonia. If I get this for sure or again I am prob not long for this world. lol

But then I guess I get to see what is next before the rest of ya Ragers!

you should discuss this with your manager, not worth the risk...

[mizzer]

The whole warmer weather thing isn't about the virus survivability but people's boosted immune systems.

And natural UV radiation from the sun.

[SubCog]

Two Stanford doctors got infected while dealing with an infected patient, even though they were wearing head to toe protective gear and following Ebola protocols

Sucker is very contagious

That's no good. My office is right next to Stanford (literally, Stanford is our landlord). Actually, lots of Stanford docs come through our cafeteria for lunch every day.

[AllexxisF1]

Once again my sweet Virginia is leading the way. Fairfax County schools closed on Monday to prepare teachers for possible distance learning.

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/fairfax-...tance-learning

[nutcrackr]

[Android1]

I am really disgusted with the U.S. federal government's response. With all of their money and resources, we should be leading the world in the number of available tests per capita.

[bill dennison]

I am really disgusted with the U.S. federal government's response. With all of their money and resources, we should be leading the world in the number of available tests per capita.

think they have been waiting for this

US insurance companies will cover costs of COVID-19 testing

link goes into PR so won't post it


......

what does this test cost to do ?
I don't think i would want to pay for it and you may need more than one

and then there are the hypochondriac A-holes that will want to be tested daily
the same ones buying all the toilet paper


and everyone does not need to be tested
i don't i feel fine

[curio]

That's no good. My office is right next to Stanford (literally, Stanford is our landlord). Actually, lots of Stanford docs come through our cafeteria for lunch every day.

I don't know if it's true though, so I wouldn't worry

[CurrentlyPissed]

Had to leave work today because of flu like symptoms. Naturally corona virus scare insues. (theres a confirmed case 20 min north of me).

[Android1]

think they have been waiting for this



link goes into PR so won't post it


......

what does this test cost to do ?
I don't think i would want to pay for it and you may need more than one

and then there are the hypochondriac A-holes that will want to be tested daily
the same ones buying all the toilet paper


and everyone does not need to be tested
i don't i feel fine

I don't know what the exact cost is. A MarketWatch article from three days ago said that people were being billed between $1,000 and $4,000 total. The CDC was supposed to cover the cost of the test (not the visit, though), but it looks as though at the time of writing, at least a couple of people were slipping through the cracks.

I would get tested if you start to feel sick. You are sixty years old, so I would not take any chances.

[MasterGoa]

Snavel Fun Fact: Tests on people JUST coming up with symptoms
show that, before symptoms even occur, they have 5-10 times the number
of active viruses in their throats than SARS patients at their peak.

It multiplies at astounding speeds.

[Android1]

Had to leave work today because of flu like symptoms. Naturally corona virus scare insues. (theres a confirmed case 20 min north of me).

I have a sore chest and a slightly elevated temperature right now. I will be calling my doctor's office tomorrow to see if I can get tested.

[nutcrackr]

An update on the US testing. Those figures don't include National Health which has now tested more than CDC. Although they don't include private labs, which they can't even get data from. Still too low even with these adjustments.

[CurrentlyPissed]

I have a sore chest and a slightly elevated temperature right now. I will be calling my doctor's office tomorrow to see if I can get tested.

I've just had nausea, dry cough, weakness, fatigue, and lack of appetite. Flu A did just go through my kids daycare so I'd put my money on that. I probably should get tested to be safe, but I'm not a hypochondriac, so I feel silly doing so.

No fever though.

[shrike126]

I have a sore chest and a slightly elevated temperature right now. I will be calling my doctor's office tomorrow to see if I can get tested.

I'm sorry bro. Any chance you been around anyone who's been doing some international travel? What's your fever at?

[nutcrackr]

It's unlikely you will get tested unless you have been in contact with somebody who has it or have been to a hotspot recently. Of course, with the lack of testing, there is a chance you have been in contact with somebody who has it.

[acroig]

Had to leave work today because of flu like symptoms. Naturally corona virus scare insues. (theres a confirmed case 20 min north of me).

Hope it's just a cold.

[Android1]

I've just had nausea, dry cough, weakness, fatigue, and lack of appetite. Flu A did just go through my kids daycare so I'd put my money on that. I probably should get tested to be safe, but I'm not a hypochondriac, so I feel silly doing so.

No fever though.

Hopefully that is "all" that it is. If your insurance will cover it, I would get tested. I think they would test you for flu as well. Don't feel silly about it; it is better to be safe than sorry.

I'm sorry bro. Any chance you been around anyone who's been doing some international travel? What's your fever at?

Thank you for you sympathy, shrike. No, I have not traveled outside the country, and as far as I know, I have not been exposed to anyone who has. My temperature was 99.2 degrees. It is not that high, but I feel feverish, and my normal temperature is less than that.

It's unlikely you will get tested unless you have been in contact with somebody who has it or have been to a hotspot recently. Of course, with the lack of testing, there is a chance you have been in contact with somebody who has it.

I wondered that, given the test shortage, but I am going to try anyway. My chances of not getting tested are zero if I say nothing.

[bill dennison]

I don't know what the exact cost is. A MarketWatch article from three days ago said that people were being billed between $1,000 and $4,000 total. The CDC was supposed to cover the cost of the test (not the visit, though), but it looks as though at the time of writing, at least a couple of people were slipping through the cracks.

I would get tested if you start to feel sick. You are sixty years old, so I would not take any chances.

I go to the Phoenix VA

and yes I'm 60 and 10 years ago i had a heart attack and was dead for 10+ minuets of CPR and them pumping bags of blood into me from too much blood thinners while i imitated a sprinkler
it did stopped a 3 pack a day smoking habit cold

still not worried for me
I've been dead once and beat it



but i do have my 91 & 92 year old parents that can't drive living with me
both have heart conditions and father has weak kidneys

them i am scared as hell for

[Android1]

I go to the Phoenix VA

and yes I'm 60 and 10 years ago i had a heart attack and was dead for 10+ minuets of CPR and them pumping bags of blood into me from too much blood thinners while i imitated a sprinkler
it did stopped a 3 pack a day smoking habit cold

still not worried for me
I've been dead once and beat it



but i do have my 91 & 92 year old parents that can't drive living with me
both have heart conditions and father has weak kidneys

them i am scared as hell for

That is the bad VA hospital, isn't it? Do you have private coverage that you could use in case they fail you?

Between your age and your prior heart problems, it sounds as though you fall into the high-risk category. Your parents definitely do. The three of you have my best wishes.

It is good that you are not in a panic, but try to keep a healthy level of concern about this. Wash your hands regularly when you can, use hand sanitizer when you can't, and don't touch your face. You probably know all of this already, but I wanted to say it anyway.