Official Thread: Coronavirus "COVID-19"

[acroig]

I am vaccinated but I still mask up everywhere I go, keep my distance and only thing I can’t avoid is smacking a woman’s ass in public if she is showing. I sanitize afterwards though.

[acroig]

I'm gonna call Cyko in here, you guys are off the reservation.

[Cyko]

This thread is one second away from getting locked. Knock off all the mandate/P&R talk and cut the personal attacks. Going back to the last page and cleaning it up.

Last warning in this thread. There have been too many already.

[acroig]

See? Now you got Cyko mad, never a good thing......

[Drunken Janitor]

Kids finished their first week back at school. They got their second dose on the 21st. We have been telling them that they will likely still get Covid, but that the vaccine will help their bodies get a jump start on fighting it. My wife is an elementary school music teacher and finished her second week back. Several staff, including her principal have come down with it. It has been a mild to bad cold for them all. Everyone of them has at least 2 doses, but probably only half of the staff have had a 3rd dose. Student absenteeism is quite high.

At my work, there have been a few cases. A couple families had it go through everyone. It was normal cold like for them. All eligible family members were vaccinated. One of the vaccine "hesitant" guys ended up getting his doses back in October without saying anything. He got Covid in early January. It was the worst one I have heard about at work, but he was still alright. Ran a fever of 40-41 for 4 days. Once it broke, remainder was cold like.

I am still watching the clock. We'll get it. Just hold off until after February 5th! We rented an ice fishing shack and are all very excited to go.

In other related health news, last weekend, my Uncle passed away in hospital. He was being treated for cancer that he ignored and refused to treat for several months. Turns out, his heart just wasn't up to chemo. I wasn't surprised. 65-70 years of smoking will do that. At least we got to go into ICU to say good bye while he was lucid. He died the next evening. I feel like he would have lived longer and may have been able to beat the cancer, but they kept trying to send him home too quickly to free up space. It's hard to say, but sending him home twice to fall and not be able to get himself up, going back to the hospital in worse condition definitely increased his suffering quite needlessly.

My father-in-law is making a great recovery from his mitral valve heart surgery on December 23rd. They had to open him back up on the 27th to fix the leaky incisions. After that, he started to recover rapidly. We got a dump of snow, around 15 to 20 CM and the man went and snowblowed. I called when I got home from work to tell him I was coming to do it and he said "Oh, I did it already" in a really proud and chipper manner. My mother-in-law said she stayed out their with him and he was no worse for wear and it made him happy. He also fixed their oven. I feel like nothing will stop him now, but I also don't want him to over do it, get run down and get Covid just yet.

[xCLAVEx]

I am vaccinated but I still mask up everywhere I go, keep my distance and only thing I can’t avoid is smacking a woman’s ass in public if she is showing. I sanitize afterwards though.

Do women frequently show their azzes in KACistan?

[acroig]

Do women frequently show their azzes in KACistan?

His maids are required to.

[Java Cool Dude]

My brother in Montreal and his infant daughter both tested positive; they are taking the infant to the ER with high fever and fast breathing

[Cyko]

My brother in Montreal and his infant daughter both tested positive; they are taking the infant to the ER with high fever and fast breathing

Dude…I’m so sorry to hear that. Sending prayers your way. Yerhamo komullaho (online translation probably blows, but I’m tryin’).

[Java Cool Dude]

Dude…I’m so sorry to hear that. Sending prayers your way. Yerhamo komullaho (online translation probably blows, but I’m tryin’).

Thanks man, I wasn't aware this crap affected children to the extent of hospitalization!

[huskylord]

Thinking of your family JCD...all the best.
My brother inlaw just recently pulled through with both his young sons getting covid....they bounced back quickly, but the family was all stressed throughout the recovery. All the best.

[acroig]

My brother in Montreal and his infant daughter both tested positive; they are taking the infant to the ER with high fever and fast breathing

Very sorry to hear this, best wishes for a speedy recovery.

[Cyko]

Thanks man, I wasn't aware this crap affected children to the extent of hospitalization!

Anytime. You ever need anything you know where to find me

[acroig]

Anytime. You ever need anything you know where to find me

Which corner you working now?

[Greasy]

Which corner you working now?

[Greasy]

My brother in Montreal and his infant daughter both tested positive; they are taking the infant to the ER with high fever and fast breathing

Praying they're OK. The little ones are tougher than they look.

[Cyko]

Which corner you working now?

If you have to ask you can’t afford it

[Greasy]

If you have to ask you can’t afford it

Is there a payment plan available?

[Java Cool Dude]

Baby discharged from the hospital and was given meds for the fever and cough. Brother is being told to bring her back after 3 days or sooner if she doesn’t get better.
Crazy how you really don’t take Covid seriously until it affects a loved one!

[Cyko]

Glad to hear that my friend. Hopefully she keeps improving and stays far away from the hospital.

[SubCog]

I've been paranoid that my kids would get covid and we'd have to cancel our Hawaii trip. Well it looks like we made it! Leaving tomorrow morning, and nobody's sick yet. We kept the kids out of school today, just to be on the safe side.

We're all fully vaccinated (even my 5 year old), wife and I are boosted, we've been wearing the n95 masks, and tomorrow we're gonna enjoy soaking in some sun on a tropical beach.

Looks like omicron peaked here last week, and is in sharp decline now. Unless we get another really bad variant, I think this pandemic is just about to wrap up.

[Java Cool Dude]

I've been paranoid that my kids would get covid and we'd have to cancel our Hawaii trip. Well it looks like we made it! Leaving tomorrow morning, and nobody's sick yet. We kept the kids out of school today, just to be on the safe side.

We're all fully vaccinated (even my 5 year old), wife and I are boosted, we've been wearing the n95 masks, and tomorrow we're gonna enjoy soaking in some sun on a tropical beach.

Looks like omicron peaked here last week, and is in sharp decline now. Unless we get another really bad variant, I think this pandemic is just about to wrap up.

Enjoy your vacation and remember, calories don't count when you're travelling

[SD-[Inc]]

I've been paranoid that my kids would get covid and we'd have to cancel our Hawaii trip. Well it looks like we made it! Leaving tomorrow morning, and nobody's sick yet. We kept the kids out of school today, just to be on the safe side.

We're all fully vaccinated (even my 5 year old), wife and I are boosted, we've been wearing the n95 masks, and tomorrow we're gonna enjoy soaking in some sun on a tropical beach.

Looks like omicron peaked here last week, and is in sharp decline now. Unless we get another really bad variant, I think this pandemic is just about to wrap up.

Enjoy!! I went in September and was very nervous leading up to the trip. Glad everyone stayed healthy so you can go. Hawaii break will be great for the body and mind too!

What island?

[Silent-Runner]

hoping for a speedy recovery, Java. Please keep us informed.

[ugly]

Thanks man, I wasn't aware this crap affected children to the extent of hospitalization!

Sorry to hear that. It does seem that most children are fine, and hopefully that will be the case in your situation.

It is unfortunate that the communication on COVID has been so bad. Children are at very little risk. But not no risk. Despite that low risk, COVID is still one of the leading causes of death in children.

The problem is that there is a balance between not creating total panic, because it is true that children are at low risk, but also appropraitely communicating that there is risk. And, like everything, it gets totally taken advantage of by the antivaxxers and contrarians in their desperate attempt to minimize everything about this pandemic.

And that turns the talking points into absolutes. Suddenly low risk to children becomes "we're destroying our children's futures and depriving them of oxygen with medical tyranny when children do not get sick from COVID". When really we should be trying to balance the risk of getting children back to school and leading normal lives with reasonable precautions.

[Greasy]

New Omicron subvariant is now being detected here. Fingers crossed it's even weaker than Omi.

[acroig]

If you have to ask you can’t afford it

For you I'll ask for a loan!

[Sasquach]

New Omicron subvariant is now being detected here. Fingers crossed it's even weaker than Omi.

here we go again......

Seems like its currently nicknamed "omicron stealth" as it seems PCR testing might not be able to detect it all the time.

[SD-[Inc]]

New Omicron subvariant is now being detected here. Fingers crossed it's even weaker than Omi.

Guess we can throw out the argument that variants only come from other parts of the world now?

[xCLAVEx]

Baby discharged from the hospital and was given meds for the fever and cough. Brother is being told to bring her back after 3 days or sooner if she doesn’t get better.
Crazy how you really don’t take Covid seriously until it affects a loved one!

I've been taking it seriously, but I haven't been losing my mind over it like some people.

But it is true that when it affects a loved one all you care about is their health, even over yours. When my dad, g/f, and I had Covid (Alpha variant, the first and worst of them all) I was very, very sick but all I could think about was my g/f and my dad. I had to help my dad the most as he is elderly and needed the most help (somehow I managed to take care of him even though I could barely walk at times), but I still helped my g/f as well though she had the scariest symptoms (chest tightness for 5 days). Luckily for them, neither have suffered long covid symptoms. Unluckily for me, I have. :/

Hope your family recovers.

[12Bass]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/25/health/pfizer-biontech-omicron-vaccine-trial/index.html

(CNN)Pfizer and BioNTech have begun a clinical trial for their Omicron-specific Covid-19 vaccine candidate, they announced in a news release on Tuesday.

The study will evaluate the vaccine for safety, tolerability and the level of immune response, as both a primary series and a booster dose, in up to 1,420 healthy adults ages 18 to 55.

The study is broken up into three groups:

Participants in the first cohort have received two doses of the current Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine at least 90 to 180 days before the study. They will receive one or two doses of the Omicron-specific vaccine.

Participants in the second cohort have received three doses of the current Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine at least 90 to 180 days prior to the study. They will receive one dose of the current Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine or the Omicron-specific vaccine.

Participants in the third cohort have not received any Covid-19 vaccine. They will receive three doses of the Omicron-specific vaccine.

The Omicron-specific vaccine will be administered as a 30-microgram dose, the same as the current vaccine.

"While current research and real-world data show that boosters continue to provide a high level of protection against severe disease and hospitalization with Omicron, we recognize the need to be prepared in the event this protection wanes over time and to potentially help address Omicron and new variants in the future," Pfizer Senior Vice President and Head of Vaccine Research and Development Kathrin Jansen said in the release.

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said last month that if a new vaccine is needed for the Omicron coronavirus variant, the company will have one in March. However, a Pfizer spokesperson confirmed that the company has already begun to manufacture this vaccine.

[koralis]

Guess we can throw out the argument that variants only come from other parts of the world now?

No one said that. They've said that they HAVE, and unless you're stopping all travel it doesn't matter where they originate... they'll eventually end up here.

As for this one, there's a lot more outside of the US than inside it. Even though the US is bound to create a new one eventually especially since vaccines don't completely prevent infection now, this one probably was still foreign born.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/there-e2-80-99s-a-new-version-of-omicron-e2-80-94-but-so-far-it-doesn-e2-80-99t-appear-to-be-more-dangerous/ar-AAT6dn3?ocid=uxbndlbing

Viruses mutate constantly, mostly in harmless ways. There is no current evidence that BA. 2 is more virulent, spreads faster or escapes immunity better than BA. 1.

“Variants have come, variants have gone,” said Robert Garry, a virologist at Tulane University School of Medicine. “I don’t think there’s any reason to think this one is a whole lot worse than the current version of omicron.”

BA. 2 has been detected in India, Denmark and Britain, among other countries, according to health officials and media reports abroad. In Europe, it appears the most widespread in Denmark, but that may be because the Scandinavian nation has a robust program of sequencing the virus’s genome.

At least three cases have been found in the United States at Houston Methodist Hospital in Texas, which also is studying the genetic makeup of virus samples from its patients.

https://www.newsweek.com/stealth-omicron-covid-subvariant-how-many-countries-40-1672104

The Omicron BA.2 sub-variant, also dubbed "stealth Omicron," has been detected in at least 40 countries worldwide.
...
Labs in countries including Denmark and Norway have reported that the sub-variant has been gaining ground, accounting for nearly half of all COVID cases in the former as of January 20, marking a sharp increase in recent weeks.

[SD-[Inc]]

No one said that. They've said that they HAVE, and unless you're stopping all travel it doesn't matter where they originate... they'll eventually end up here.

As for this one, there's a lot more outside of the US than inside it. Even though the US is bound to create a new one eventually especially since vaccines don't completely prevent infection now, this one probably was still foreign born.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/there-e2-80-99s-a-new-version-of-omicron-e2-80-94-but-so-far-it-doesn-e2-80-99t-appear-to-be-more-dangerous/ar-AAT6dn3?ocid=uxbndlbing

https://www.newsweek.com/stealth-omi...ies-40-1672104

US has over 20% of Covid cases reported worldwide. So, this is the country most likely to create a new variant.

[Greasy]

US has over 20% of Covid cases reported worldwide. So, this is the country most likely to create a new variant.

You keep saying reported. It's much higher elsewhere as it is here in the US.

[Greasy]

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[KAC]

Sorry to hear JCD. Hope your fam recovers fast.

[Java Cool Dude]

Both baby and dad have recovered mashAllah 🙏🏽

[SD-[Inc]]

You keep saying reported. It's much higher elsewhere as it is here in the US.

I can claim the US undercounts worse than all countries without providing any proof. It’s a gut feeling I have.

[ugly]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGmRwQ4TZc4

I'm glad people are starting to call out Dr. Campbell. So many people treat Dr. Campbell as if he is some type of authority or valuable resource. He talks a lot of nonsense, and doesn't add a lot of insight. And, especially after he embarrassed himself on ivermectin, he's started leaning into the conspiracy theories. It's such a common strategy with YouTubers/podcasters. They talk about some alt-right/conspiracy theory and don't dismiss it as nonsense. Then they get that sweet enagement bump from all the cult members. Then start learning harder and harder into conspiracy theories to keep that engagement up.

[Nunz]

US has over 20% of Covid cases reported worldwide. So, this is the country most likely to create a new variant.

Not when you account for percentage of vaccinated individuals and what that does to transmission rates, you know, that argument some of you were just having a page or two back. There are still plenty of countries struggling to procure vaccines that have a far less percentage of population vaccinated.

So no, just because the US has over 20% of COVID cases reported, does not necessarily mean it's automatically the most likely to produce a new variant through infection. You also (expected, of course) ignored the fact that accurate reporting is an intense toll on support agencies and requires a lot of coordination - something many nations do not have or were not prepared for. The US, sitting in the international eye, is likely going to report more accurately, not less. Once again, I don't think you've travelled much to developing countries .. they do not, in any sense of the word, have the infrastructure, personnel, or organization to accurately handle reporting. It's an immense toll on many fronts.