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    Originally posted by Jay20016 View Post
    I mean, one of them literally came from a test, with a positive result, and wanted to show us... in person!

    Like, come on, we're 19 months into this and we still have to tell you to not put others at risk of exposure when you've got positive test results?
    So many A Holes everywhere.....

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      Originally posted by Greasy View Post
      For those that aren't vaccinated. Best of luck to you.
      This looks like good news to me:


      It seems that over 146 million now have some degree of natural immunity to the disease. And based on the total number of infections vs. the total deaths the odds of surviving the infection is 99.4% when taken across all age groups. No doubt if you're older those odds are worse.

      Going in for my 2nd dose of the drug after the holiday.

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        Got my booster last night...was Moderna. No problems so far. Smooth sailing.
        Take what you want...and then pay for it...

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          Well despite the recent surge in cases here in MA I was hoping we would sail through this holiday weekend without anything to deter our family gathering plans. We were planning to pick up our tradition of going to my wife's cousin's for Christmas eve after missing it last year due to covid. Well now we just found out her grandson (9 year old) just tested positive so its been canceled.

          It sucks but we will all figure out somewhere else to celebrate (most likely staying home). What's more concerning is we are not sure of that part of the family's vaccination status. Some of them are but we suspect some are not. Including the kid's father. Hopefully they all make it through without anyone getting severely sick.

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            Texas getting f'd with omicron already. Didn't even wait till after Christmas, nice work... Barely got through the 3rd wave now we're starting a 4th. When does people finally realize not getting the vax is going to push this crap out forever?
            Originally posted by IamHere
            You guys are closet communists.

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              US Army Creates Single Vaccine Against All COVID & SARS Variants, Researchers Say

              Within weeks, Walter Reed researchers expect to announce that human trials show success against Omicron—and even future strains.

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                Originally posted by Meteor_of_War View Post
                Well despite the recent surge in cases here in MA I was hoping we would sail through this holiday weekend without anything to deter our family gathering plans. We were planning to pick up our tradition of going to my wife's cousin's for Christmas eve after missing it last year due to covid. Well now we just found out her grandson (9 year old) just tested positive so its been canceled.

                It sucks but we will all figure out somewhere else to celebrate (most likely staying home). What's more concerning is we are not sure of that part of the family's vaccination status. Some of them are but we suspect some are not. Including the kid's father. Hopefully they all make it through without anyone getting severely sick.
                We’re just meeting with immediate family (all vaccinated) for a couple of hours and then back home this year. That experience with the ER last weekend and talking with the Doctors and nurses convinced us it’s really the best course of action right now.

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                  Alyssa Dipirro, 30, was waiting in line for a Covid test in Orlando, Fla., on Tuesday but had not been vaccinated. Earlier in the pandemic, she did not want to do so while pregnant, despite assurances from public health experts that the shots were safe for pregnant women.

                  Since then, she has not been reassured by reports of vaccinated people getting Covid infections, as is happening more frequently with Omicron, even though the vaccines remain effective at warding off severe disease. “They still have to get tested if they get exposed,” she said. “So what’s the point of this?”

                  Yes, because the vaccine doesn't make you 100% immune, there's no point. arggg
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                    Originally posted by Java Cool Dude View Post
                    Super immunity; prior infection + COVID vaccines.
                    Yesh, but at the cost of my smell getting fubard. I've adapted to it now, but things still don't fully smell right or taste right.
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                      Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                      We’re just meeting with immediate family (all vaccinated) for a couple of hours and then back home this year. That experience with the ER last weekend and talking with the Doctors and nurses convinced us it’s really the best course of action right now.
                      I missed the story about why you were at the ER but I hope you and/or everyone else is doing OK.

                      Originally posted by koralis View Post
                      People like that are either just making excuses not to get vaccinated and will continue to do so, or are just plain dumb. Maybe both?

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                        Originally posted by xCLAVEx View Post
                        Yesh, but at the cost of my smell getting fubard. I've adapted to it now, but things still don't fully smell right or taste right.
                        Well that could be an advantage in certain scenarios... lol

                        Try looking at the bright side?
                        Originally posted by Elysian
                        When does people finally realize not getting the vax is going to push this crap out forever?
                        If 100% of people take the drug what is your expectation for the outcome?

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                          China ordered the lockdown of as many as 13 million people in neighborhoods and workplaces in the northern city of Xi'an following a spike in coronavirus cases. setting off panic buying just weeks before the country hosts the Winter Olympic Games.


                          China has started the city lockdowns again. no travel in or out unless it's a special case
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                            Finally some good news to post:

                            https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...S3SDT?ocid=mmx


                            Pfizer's COVID treatment pill authorized by FDA

                            An at-home treatment for COVID-19 that can prevent serious illness was authorized by the Food and Drug Administration on Wednesday, offering a note of optimism for the future of the pandemic as the world faces the omicron variant.

                            When taken early, Pfizer's pill was 89% effective at reducing the risk of severe illness and death from COVID-19, according to the company, and was effective against omicron.

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                              I just read a report that South african medical experts are saying that they've just passed the peak of Omicron...and cases are starting to drop.

                              So the combination of being more transmissable but less deadly could be a real thing instead of speculation.
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                                Originally posted by Elysian View Post


                                Texas getting f'd with omicron already. Didn't even wait till after Christmas, nice work... Barely got through the 3rd wave now we're starting a 4th. When does people finally realize not getting the vax is going to push this crap out forever?
                                The vaccine doesn't stop OMI. Even with the booster you're like 40% up to 80% (so they claim).

                                All of the first US cases were in vaccinated folks. One even had the booster. You're going to get this.
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                                  Yea but itll be up to 10x less likely to kill if you have the vax.

                                  Omicron is anywhere from 30% to 70% less deadly but those numbers arent that great if you have 5 or more times of new cases a day.

                                  The risk of needing hospital treatment could be 30 - 70% lower with Omicron than other variants.


                                  The wave of Omicron appears to be milder according to preliminary studies published in the UK and South Africa.

                                  Early evidence suggests fewer people are needing hospital treatment than with other variants - with estimates ranging from a 30% to a 70% reduction.

                                  But the concern remains that even if Omicron is milder, the sheer number of cases could overwhelm hospitals.
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                                    Originally posted by pax View Post
                                    Yea but itll be up to 10x less likely to kill if you have the vax.

                                    Omicron is anywhere from 30% to 70% less deadly but those numbers arent that great if you have 5 or more times of new cases a day.

                                    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-59758784
                                    Obviously we need more vaccinated people. Those of us that are vaccinated shouldn't pretend we're not about to get this if we don't live like hermits.

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                                      Its all about risk reduction at this point, rather than risk elimination.

                                      Keeping current with vaccinations + masks + situational distancing all work together to reduce risk of infection / spread.

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                                        COVID-19 is known to cause multi-organ dysfunction1-3 in acute infection, with prolonged symptoms experienced by some patients, termed Post-Acute Sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 (PASC)4-5. However, the burden of infection outside the respiratory tract and time to viral clearance is n...



                                        COVID-19 is known to cause multi-organ dysfunction1-3 in acute infection, with prolonged symptoms experienced by some patients, termed Post-Acute Sequelae of SARS-CoV-2 (PASC)4-5. However, the burden of infection outside the respiratory tract and time to viral clearance is not well characterized, particularly in the brain3,6-14. We performed complete autopsies on 44 patients with COVID-19 to map and quantify SARS-CoV-2 distribution, replication, and cell-type specificity across the human body, including brain, from acute infection through over seven months following symptom onset. We show that SARS-CoV-2 is widely distributed, even among patients who died with asymptomatic to mild COVID-19, and that virus replication is present in multiple extrapulmonary tissues early in infection. Further, we detected SARS-CoV-2 RNA in multiple anatomic sites, including regions throughout the brain, for up to 230 days following symptom onset. Despite extensive distribution of SARS-CoV-2 in the body, we observed a paucity of inflammation or direct viral cytopathology outside of the lungs. Our data prove that SARS-CoV-2 causes systemic infection and can persist in the body for months.
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                                          Cases in DC

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                                                Originally posted by Riptide View Post
                                                Well that could be an advantage in certain scenarios... lol

                                                Try looking at the bright side?
                                                I don't see a bright side to some tastes losing their identity and many smells having a burnt egg odor.
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                                                  Originally posted by Silent-Runner View Post
                                                  a good way to go out of business

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                                                    Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                    a good way to go out of business
                                                    I’d support them even if the food/service was garbage. Anyone not following proper precautions these days can eff themselves. I’m tired of snowflakes complaining. Don’t like it don’t go outside. Don’t like that option move to an island or deep in a forest. Part of the pact of being part of society is looking out for the general welfare of others.

                                                    TLDR: boo frickety hoo to people who won’t grow a pair and mask up.
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                                                      What my buddy Cyko said!

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                                                        Originally posted by Cyko View Post
                                                        I’d support them even if the food/service was garbage. Anyone not following proper precautions these days can eff themselves. I’m tired of snowflakes complaining. Don’t like it don’t go outside. Don’t like that option move to an island or deep in a forest. Part of the pact of being part of society is looking out for the general welfare of others.

                                                        TLDR: boo frickety hoo to people who won’t grow a pair and mask up.


                                                        live in fear i won't

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                                                          Originally posted by bill dennison View Post


                                                          live in fear i won't
                                                          Live in denial you should not.

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                                                            Originally posted by bill dennison View Post


                                                            live in fear i won't
                                                            I thought you were more level headed than that.

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                                                              Just received a letter from my kids' school. My son was in direct contact with someone who has it.

                                                              My father wasn't keen on receiving us (he had a couple of cancers) and my gf's parents aren't at their peak so we're gonna spend Christmas between us and we'll just swap gifts in their parking lot.



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                                                                Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                                                                I thought you were more level headed than that.
                                                                i am vaccinated and just had it in august and when my doctor tells me to get a boster i will

                                                                but the the face kotex i'm done with other than in a hospital or doctor office and like
                                                                but in everyday life in stores or working i have not since 2 week after i got over Delta, no one here is forcing it in stores
                                                                Omicron is nothing compaired to Delta for the vaccinated
                                                                and all Delta did is give me the sh*ts because i was vaccinated and i am more protected now after having Delta

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                                                                  Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                                  i am vaccinated and just had it in august and when my doctor tells me to get a boster i will

                                                                  but the the face kotex i'm done with other than in a hospital or doctor office and like
                                                                  but in everyday life in stores or working i have not since 2 week after i got over Delta, no one here is forcing it in stores
                                                                  Omicron is nothing compaired to Delta
                                                                  and all Delta did is give me the sh*ts because i was vaccinated and i am more protected now after having Delta
                                                                  Wearing a mask isn’t about you, and being vaccinated doesn’t stop you from transmitting it. Neither does ‘not living in fear’. Fear is for immunocompromised people like my mother who just spent 2.5 days in an ER because the ICU was loaded with covid patients who weren’t afraid either.

                                                                  If she contracts covid, any variant, even fully vaccinated she’s probably dead, because the cancer already tore her lungs and innards a new one. It would probably be someone nearby who couldn’t bother wearing a mask, maybe because they refuse to live in fear ya know?

                                                                  Good for you guys


                                                                  Edit: I don’t even know why I bother getting involved in these conversations.

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                                                                    Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                                                                    Edit: I don’t even know why I bother getting involved in these conversations.
                                                                    Because it may eventually sink in, even if too late.

                                                                    There very clearly are a group of people in this country with a certain affiliation and belief system that makes the proceed through life without giving a **** about something until it personally affects them. These people may not have always been this way, but as they get older, are a majority in the country they live in, and generally have a privilege in that country that not all folks int that country can enjoy - change becomes scary, they believe themselves to be the victims (often putting the targets on their own backs), and they find a media bubble that reinforces this stance that entrenches them and their self-serving asshole point of view (yet, when called out on this, the butt hurt goes into overdrive - as, you know, they're the victims, they're the persecuted, yadda, yadda, yadda). And the only way to address this problem is to point it out, so that's what we have to do.

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                                                                      Originally posted by bill dennison View Post


                                                                      live in fear i won't
                                                                      I don't care about your personal experience. Live in fear? How about wear a mask because it's the GOD DAMNED decent thing to do.

                                                                      Face Kotex? Give me a ****ing break.
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                                                                        Best hopes that your son does not get it Manga.

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                                                                          Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                                          i am vaccinated and just had it in august and when my doctor tells me to get a boster i will

                                                                          but the the face kotex i'm done with other than in a hospital or doctor office and like
                                                                          but in everyday life in stores or working i have not since 2 week after i got over Delta, no one here is forcing it in stores
                                                                          Omicron is nothing compaired to Delta for the vaccinated
                                                                          and all Delta did is give me the sh*ts because i was vaccinated and i am more protected now after having Delta
                                                                          Your immunity is probably good. But, any idea how many people you infected when you were running back and forth to the shitter? Next time you’ll probably by asymptomatic which is even worse. Bill the Super Spreader ….

                                                                          You aren’t alone. Most people, between vaccination and prior infection, do have much better immunity than last year. But, nonchalant attitudes like yours is going to make the spread worse. A lower percentage of people will die. But with the spread growing wider and wider. That’s still a LOT of dead people. I am boosted and feel good and don’t fear either. But, I don’t intend on being a spreader. So, I wear a mask.

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                                                                            Aaaand my Family Christmas is cancelled for me. One of the couples in our building tested positive and they have been walking everywhere in the building maskless, sharing teh elevator etc etc. So since I'm completely unwilling to even potentially expose either my 90 some year old grandmother or other family, vaccinated or not, me and my SO are out

                                                                            Luckily my work is remotable AND my work wouldn't even be back till the 4th.

                                                                            At least they notified everyone, but damn it
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                                                                              Originally posted by SD-[Inc] View Post
                                                                              Your immunity is probably good. But, any idea how many people you infected when you were running back and forth to the shitter? Next time you’ll probably by asymptomatic which is even worse. Bill the Super Spreader ….

                                                                              You aren’t alone. Most people, between vaccination and prior infection, do have much better immunity than last year. But, nonchalant attitudes like yours is going to make the spread worse. A lower percentage of people will die. But with the spread growing wider and wider. That’s still a LOT of dead people. I am boosted and feel good and don’t fear either. But, I don’t intend on being a spreader. So, I wear a mask.
                                                                              none as i did mask then and i stayed home when i was under quarantine for two weeks after i had the monoclonal antibodies at the VA like i was told to

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                                                                                Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                                                none as i did mask then and i stayed home when i was under quarantine for two weeks after i had the monoclonal antibodies at the VA like i was told to
                                                                                Hopefully you didn’t spread before you noticed. The other big issue right now is the monocionals you got are in short supply and being rationed now. You probably couldn’t get them today. Plus, the new anti-viral pills aren’t yet available in mass quantities. So timing is not good on this spike. Being careful is a good idea because everyone doing their part would make a difference. (I know I am dreaming, but ya gotta hope).

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                                                                                  my dad came down with a "cold" and is waiting for results. either way won't be able to see him Christmas either. Too risky regardless visiting anyone.
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