Official Thread: Coronavirus "COVID-19"

[acroig]

brought him home a 167 pound bucket of money my uncle had
I could barely carry it to the truck as i'm down to 155
I need to get back on the bike and up to 165

but he is having a ball looking for pre 64 silver coins and finding some


no wonder there is a coin shortage
5 gallon bucket of money

LOL, glad he's having fun finding loot.

[Sasquach]

brought him home a 167 pound bucket of money my uncle had
I could barely carry it to the truck as i'm down to 155
I need to get back on the bike and up to 165

but he is having a ball looking for pre 64 silver coins and finding some


no wonder there is a coin shortage
5 gallon bucket of money

No Laundry bag with a money sign on it?

[bill dennison]

No Laundry bag with a money sign on it?

no just 20+ guns all loaded
spent the first day at my uncles finding, unloading and packing guns
drilling his gun safe and finding the combination inside

[acroig]

Inside the safe? Wow

[Greasy]

no just 20+ guns all loaded
spent the first day at my uncles finding, unloading and packing guns
drilling his gun safe and finding the combination inside

Find any rare ones? I'm taking a buddy to the range tomorrow so he can try out some of mine. He's leaning towards a sig P365, but I don't have one yet. Hopefully they have one at the store we can try it out.

My dad had some really cool guns, but that fat bitch step mom of mine sold them all before I could get there to make an offer. Then the bitch asked me for money two weeks later.

[bill dennison]

Find any rare ones? I'm taking a buddy to the range tomorrow so he can try out some of mine. He's leaning towards a sig P365, but I don't have one yet. Hopefully they have one at the store we can try it out.

My dad had some really cool guns, but that fat bitch step mom of mine sold them all before I could get there to make an offer. Then the bitch asked me for money two weeks later.

trapdoor cadet rifle 45-70 1884 - good

colt 45 1911 property of united states army 1943 - near new
with two clips and holsters w/belt & med pack

lots of m1903 springfield's one set up for for pedersen device
and one nice M1 Garand

he sold off about 75 guns a few years back
two M1 Garand NM

[eNforcer]

Businesses requiring proof of vaccinations and some work places making it mandatory it is actually, finally, making a dent in my circle.

A family member has to get the shots for work (not anti-vax, just lazy), and one co-worker got a shot basically just to be able to go to his pubs. Other co-worker is still vaccine-hesitant and is just paying to get the rapid tests for proof of covid-negative to go to said pubs with co-worker.

[Nascar24]

Well went to my first public gathering since COVID hit, it appears to be over, because I didn't see one mask in a packed High school football game last night, but numbers are over 4k a day in my state. Its obvious this is now getting treated as a common cold by everyone including the government. They have given up on trying to stop it.

[SD-[Inc]]

Looks like the delta is pushing to some of the last holdout states in the North/Central US. Right now Montana has nearly 2x the number of new cases per day than the entire state of California. Stay safe up there Munkus!

[bill dennison]

Looks like the delta is pushing to some of the last holdout states in the North/Central US. Right now Montana has nearly 2x the number of new cases per day than the entire state of California. Stay safe up there Munkus!

Wyoming is bad also

I was about the only one with a mask when I was there

the few that did have masks that I knew had it and were mildly sick with it

[Greasy]

trapdoor cadet rifle 45-70 1884 - good

colt 45 1911 property of united states army 1943 - near new
with two clips and holsters w/belt & med pack

lots of m1903 springfield's one set up for for pedersen device
and one nice M1 Garand

he sold off about 75 guns a few years back
two M1 Garand NM

Nice guns. Shame about the the other M1s though. That 1911 sounds amazing to me. Those are my favorite.

[Greasy]

Delta seems to have burned through most of the unvaxed in the area here. It will continue to spread as we're seeing in other states. One way or the other we'll get past it.

[KAC]

Sitting at the airport after 2 years. And every mofo here is coughing, sneezing or smoking. Even my throat is feeling sore and I have been fine for 2 years. Motherfuka!

[Crawdaddy79]

Sitting at the airport after 2 years. And every mofo here is coughing, sneezing or smoking. Even my throat is feeling sore and I have been fine for 2 years. Motherfuka!

I'm still hyper-sensitive to coughing. I went to an in-person conference. By my watch, one guy coughed five times in twenty minutes. I left the room. No one in that room got COVID, but FFS if I were the one coughing like that I would have left before anyone else.

[ugly]

COVID-19 infection rates rose more than twice as much in fully reopened businesses than those with partial openings

Concerned about the economic toll of COVID-19 lockdowns, state and local governments began to experiment with lifting restrictions on businesses as early as last spring, leading to an ever-shifting array of rules that varied widely from place to place. Now, a new USC study of more than 80 counties nationwide reveals the difference more or less restrictive policies may have had on the spread of COVID-19.

The research, published in the Journal of Public Health, showed businesses that fully reopened during the height of the pandemic last fall saw more than a 10% rise in the COVID-19 infection rate in their first two weeks, nearly double the rise of establishments that only partially reopened, according to new USC research.

Among the businesses that fully reopened, with no additional restrictions in areas like capacity limits, gyms had the highest rise in infection rate, followed by hair salons and barber shops. Surprisingly, in this category, bars actually had the lowest change in infection rate among business types examined. But among businesses that only partially reopened, bars had the highest rise in infection rates, followed by gyms.

“Bars were among the last businesses to open and at the time of the study, only 13 counties allowed bars to be fully open, so there were fewer data points to analyze” said co-first author Alexander Bruckhaus, a National Science Foundation Research Experience for Undergraduates fellow in the lab of Dominique Duncan, PhD, at the Laboratory of Neuro Imaging at the USC Stevens Neuroimaging and Informatics Institute (USC Stevens INI). “The high change in infection rate among partially reopened bars could be indicative that bars are a dangerous place to be during a pandemic because first, when people drink, they’re not wearing their masks, and second, they could be intoxicated, and they wouldn’t necessarily adhere to the safety precautions.”

On an aggregate level, fully reopened businesses were associated with an average 14-day infection rate increase of 10.124%. When businesses only partially reopened, a 5.765% associated increase in infection rate was observed.

The researchers also examined variables like mask usage frequency, median household income, population density and social distancing. They found a low degree of mask wearing was associated with a high rise in infection rates, particularly in restaurants, bars and gyms.

“When comparing other factors to the change in infection rate, mask usage plays a substantial role in curtailing/rising infection rates when restaurants and bars reopen,” the authors wrote.

Myocarditis is the latest thing antivaxxers are trying to scare people with about the vaccine. Although mycarditis is a real potential side effect, and isn't trivial, it is important to note that myocarditis from the virus itself poses a higher risk: Senior doctors urge secondary school pupils to get vaccinated

Jorja Halliday, a 15-year-old from Portsmouth, died from Covid last week on the day she was due to have her Covid jab. She developed myocarditis, or inflammation of the heart, days after contracting the virus. While some cases of heart inflammation have been recorded as an extremely rare side-effect of the vaccine, none have led to deaths in young people. The risk of myocarditis appears to be substantially higher from Covid than the vaccine.

And healthy NHL athlete, and COVID hoaxer, decided not to get vaccinated, and can't get up to speed for the upcoming NHL season because he caught COVID in the summer and has myocarditis.

https://twitter.com/SportsnetSpec/status/1444741206257266690

BREAKING: Edmonton Oilers winger Josh Archibald done for the foreseeable future after tests show a summertime bout with Covid 19 had led to heart condition myocarditis. Destined for LTIR, buying Oilers $1.5 M in cap space.

Remember, anyone trying to throw numbers around about how dangerous the vaccine is, without also noting the risks of the virus, is almost certainly lying to you.

[bill dennison]

I'm still hyper-sensitive to coughing. I went to an in-person conference. By my watch, one guy coughed five times in twenty minutes. I left the room. No one in that room got COVID, but FFS if I were the one coughing like that I would have left before anyone else.

a snickers bar will start me coughing a lot every time damn peanuts get stuck

allergies make me sneeze

not every thing is covid

people need to stop the fear saw some guy go off on some other guy for standing 4 feet away and not 6 in a store

[koralis]

I'm still hyper-sensitive to coughing. I went to an in-person conference. By my watch, one guy coughed five times in twenty minutes. I left the room. No one in that room got COVID, but FFS if I were the one coughing like that I would have left before anyone else.

1 cough every 4 minutes isn't especially worrisome. If you've got it, a cold, etc, you'll be coughing a LOT more than that. Sounds more like irritation... allergies, etc.

[Munkus]

Looks like the delta is pushing to some of the last holdout states in the North/Central US. Right now Montana has nearly 2x the number of new cases per day than the entire state of California. Stay safe up there Munkus!

Thanks SD. Yeah it's pretty bad up here, yet people still go out without masks. I got the Moderna jab a few weeks back, but I know that won't prevent me from catching delta. Just makes it highly unlikely that I'll end up in the ICU or dead from it. I'd hate to be an asymptomatic carrier and give it to someone else who ends up dying.

The mindset up here is amazing. So many people have gotten sick, and have admitted that it's the sickest they've ever been, but once they recover they say "See, told you it was all overblown."

The problem doesn't end with COVID either. "Long COVID" is a bitch. My wife has it. Many people still have symptoms or neurological damage for months after getting over the acute phase. Long COVID is very real, yet doctors don't understand it and many people tell you to just get over it, it's all in your head.

[Lazy8s]

Thanks SD. Yeah it's pretty bad up here, yet people still go out without masks. I got the Moderna jab a few weeks back, but I know that won't prevent me from catching delta. Just makes it highly unlikely that I'll end up in the ICU or dead from it. I'd hate to be an asymptomatic carrier and give it to someone else who ends up dying.

The mindset up here is amazing. So many people have gotten sick, and have admitted that it's the sickest they've ever been, but once they recover they say "See, told you it was all overblown."

The real problem, IMO, isn't COVID-19. It's "long COVID". My wife has it. Many people still have symptoms or neurological damage for months after getting over the acute phase. Long COVID is very real, yet doctors don't understand it and many people tell you to just get over it, it's all in your head.

My cousin thought it was all in everyone’s heads too, and she died (intubated) last week. Now my grandson has it - his mom, brother and step-dad are waiting on test results.

I am just done with this mess.

[acroig]

My cousin thought it was all in everyone’s heads too, and she died (intubated) last week. Now my grandson has it - his mom, brother and step-dad are waiting on test results.

I am just done with this mess.

[A2597]

My cousin thought it was all in everyone’s heads too, and she died (intubated) last week. Now my grandson has it - his mom, brother and step-dad are waiting on test results.

I am just done with this mess.

Sorry to hear that Lazy.

Got my first dose yesterday (Moderna). No side effects aside from a sore arm.

[Munkus]

My cousin thought it was all in everyone’s heads too, and she died (intubated) last week. Now my grandson has it - his mom, brother and step-dad are waiting on test results.

I am just done with this mess.

Aw man. I'm so sorry, brutha.

[Lazy8s]

Thanks guys. My grandson caught it in school, my cousin just never thought there was anything to worry about and lived like that. The worst part is her death has only made others double down. As in "It must have been something the doctors didn't know about, so we're all going to eat right and work out now"

No. I'm not kidding.

[acroig]

What a waste....

My best friend's wife in South FL is in the ICU intubated. This woman and her husband are both astrophysics professors at the local College, they both have PhDs, but no vaccinations.....

[12Bass]

Sorry to hear that Lazy.

Got my first dose yesterday (Moderna). No side effects aside from a sore arm.

That's good... the best first dose protection at the moment, AFAIK.

It really irks me how politicized the pandemic has become, and how dogmatically some people have dug into their denial, even to the point of dying for their mistaken beliefs. I blame the leaders more than social media, FWIW, as they are the ones promoting this dangerous nonsense, while their followers gladly spread the "good news". I've lost friends over this, because I was simply not willing to put up with their constantly posting misinformation and outright refusal to think critically, even though I tried to lead them through how to do it.

[Lazy8s]

What a waste....

My best friend's wife in South FL is in the ICU intubated. This woman and her husband are both astrophysics professors at the local College, they both have PhDs, but no vaccinations.....

Quite a few of the remaining un-vaccinated in my family are also "high level" professionals in various fields.

I don't, and don't want to 'understand' where they're coming from.

[acroig]

Quite a few of the remaining un-vaccinated in my family are also "high level" professionals in various fields.

I don't, and don't want to 'understand' where they're coming from.

Same, I just don't get it. Did I mention they have a special needs child?

[12Bass]

Haven't done much research, but have seen that some people with PhDs seems to think they are smarter than the experts in virology, epidemiology, etc... even though they are not formally educated in such fields. Smart idiots is what they seem to amount to. Various polls have shown this to be a real phenomenon.

[Lazy8s]

Same, I just don't get it. Did I mention they have a special needs child?

[Lazy8s]

Haven't done much research, but have seen that some people with PhDs seems to think they are smarter than the experts in virology, epidemiology, etc... even though they are not formally educated in such fields. Smart idiots is what they seem to amount to. Various polls have shown this to be a real phenomenon.

I can vouch for the validity of those polls.

[12Bass]

A couple articles which touch on vaccine hesitancy in people with PhDs:

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/072621-king-mejia-vaccine-hesitancy

But more surprising is the breakdown in vaccine hesitancy by level of education. It finds that the association between hesitancy and education level follows a U-shaped curve with the highest hesitancy among those least and most educated. People with a master’s degree had the least hesitancy, and the highest hesitancy was among those holding a Ph.D.

[Canesfan2020]

Haven't done much research, but have seen that some people with PhDs seems to think they are smarter than the experts in virology, epidemiology, etc... even though they are not formally educated in such fields. Smart idiots is what they seem to amount to. Various polls have shown this to be a real phenomenon.

They are all part of this fascinating bunch that think searching Google is research.

[kytprice]

Same, I just don't get it. Did I mention they have a special needs child?

And that's why we vaccinated as soon as possible. We have to live as long as possible. Someone is depending on us 24/7.

[12Bass]

They are all part of this fascinating bunch that think searching Google is research.

Well, googling can be research, if you know how to search and what is and isn't credible information. Somehow, I figured that PhDs should know better, but these studies show that they are failing due to cognitive biases just like everyone else, so they are apparently not as smart as they seem to think (Dunning-Kruger).

From the second link above:

What’s more, the paper found that in the first five months of 2021, the largest decrease in hesitancy was among the least educated — those with a high school education or less. Meanwhile, hesitancy held constant in the most educated group; by May, those with Ph.Ds were the most hesitant group.

So not only are the most educated people most sceptical of taking the Covid vaccine, they are also the least likely the change their minds about it…

[Elysian]

A couple articles which touch on vaccine hesitancy in people with PhDs:

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/

https://www.upmc.com/media/news/0726...cine-hesitancy

Some follow up on that study...

https://www.wnct.com/news/north-carolina/fact-check-setting-the-record-straight-on-claims-about-vaccine-hesitancy-among-ph-d-s/

A sensitivity analysis found some people answered in the extreme ends of some demographic categories to throw off some of the numbers. King said it appeared to be a “concerted effort” that “did make the hesitancy prevalence in the Ph.D. group look higher than it really is.”

For example, they observed higher hesitancy rates than expected in the oldest age group — 75 and over — as well as the top end in terms of education level.

“We found that people basically used it to write in political … statements,” King said. “So they weren’t genuine responses. They didn’t really complete the survey in good faith.”

There were some other issues.

The study hasn’t been peer-reviewed yet.

People taking the survey were on the honor system, with no way to make sure people who claimed to have Ph.D. degrees actually have them.

And the Ph.D. group does not include medical doctors or nurses.

“So it’s not representative of the medical profession,” King said.

[12Bass]

Some follow up on that study...

https://www.wnct.com/news/north-caro...-among-ph-d-s/

Interesting... and perhaps not too surprising that there is an underlying ideological bias at play, along with multiple potential confounds. The same phenomenon exists regarding attitudes about anthropogenic climate change (ideology blinds scientific credibility).

[koralis]

Some follow up on that study...

https://www.wnct.com/news/north-caro...-among-ph-d-s/

Regarding the no doctors/nurses, there are plenty of doctors and nurses that are unvaccinated too.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertzafft/2021/08/05/the-paradox-of-unvaccinated-healthcare-workers/?sh=3ef1a76a7f11

Monthly survey data gathered through Facebook suggests that vaccine hesitancy ranges from 9% among pharmacists to 20%-23% among nursing aides and emergency medical technicians. About 1 out of 8 registered nurses and doctors hesitate to get a COVID vaccine.

https://www.npr.org/2021/09/18/1037975289/unvaccinated-covid-19-vaccine-refuse-nurses-heath-care-workers

Melody Butler, a nurse at Long Island Community Hospital in New York and the executive director of the nonprofit Nurses Who Vaccinate, says she has heard from nurses across the country about why they don't want the vaccine.

Among the reasons: The research was done too quickly; it wasn't fully FDA-approved (at first); they already have antibodies from working the front lines of the pandemic or perhaps from getting the virus already. Many are concerned about how the vaccine affects fertility.

...

"We are seeing the nurses who weren't trained to recognize poorly written studies; they weren't trained to recognize anti-vaccine propaganda," she says. "And it's very convincing. That's what our struggle is in the nursing community."

...

Some hospital leaders — like Alan Levine, CEO of Ballad Health based in Johnson City, Tenn. — say they can't afford to implement a vaccine mandate for their staff — of which about 63% are already vaccinated. Enough nurses would leave, Levine says, that the hospitals wouldn't be able to take care of patients.

"We have about 6,000 nurses in our system," he says. "If we are five or 10 nurses down in our system, we feel it."

4% isn't a lot, but it's not 0.

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19

The American Medical Association (AMA) today released a new survey (PDF) among practicing physicians that shows more than 96 percent of surveyed U.S. physicians have been fully vaccinated for COVID-19, with no significant difference in vaccination rates across regions. Of the physicians who are not yet vaccinated, an additional 45 percent do plan to get vaccinated.

[acroig]

And that's why we vaccinated as soon as possible. We have to live as long as possible. Someone is depending on us 24/7.

EXACTLY!!! See, this parent gets it.

[Java Cool Dude]

Welp, I once again got into a heated argument with my best friend over vaccines; he believes the MSM is lying, stats are made up, only old people should get the vaccine etc...
When I present him with numbers, he flat out rejects them and says he doesn't care about stats and he's going with his instincts.
Now I gave up a longtime ago about him getting vaccinated and I asked him multiple times not to bring up vaccines again, but here we are...

[12Bass]

Welp, I once again got into a heated argument with my best friend over vaccines; he believes the MSM is lying, stats are made up, only old people should get the vaccine etc...
When I present him with numbers, he flat out rejects them and says he doesn't care about stats and he's going with his instincts.
Now I gave up a longtime ago about him getting vaccinated and I asked him multiple times not to bring up vaccines again, but here we are...

I always say "trust your gut", but only until your gut gets infected with COVID. Then use your head...