Official Thread: Coronavirus "COVID-19"

[koralis]

I feel like Pfizer went with minimal but good-nuff dosage to maximize production and sell more product at ridiculous profit margins.
Vaccines are safe and effective but that doesn't hide the fact that, at the end of the day, Pharmaceutical companies are still for-profit entities and they pull every trick in the book to stuff shareholders' pockets.

I think it's fair to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one, that they went with a lower dosage because:


1) lower dosage meant fewer side effects (Moderna recipients were often knocked for a loop for a day or two)
2) It was still 95% effective against the alpha strain

No reason for a higher dosage and make people suffer for no reason. The fact that the higher Moderna dosages are responding better to Delta over time is somewhat unforseeable. Data on vaccine longevity didn't exist at that time.

Also, for the longest time, the packaging and syringes were the main production holdup, not how much mRNA that could manufacturer.

[Greasy]

I think it's fair to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one, that they went with a lower dosage because:


1) lower dosage meant fewer side effects (Moderna recipients were often knocked for a loop for a day or two)
2) It was still 95% effective against the alpha strain

No reason for a higher dosage and make people suffer for no reason. The fact that the higher Moderna dosages are responding better to Delta over time is somewhat unforseeable. Data on vaccine longevity didn't exist at that time.

Also, for the longest time, the packaging and syringes were the main production holdup, not how much mRNA that could manufacturer.

Pretty much nailed it.

[AllexxisF1]

What ultimately matters is the efficacy. It has to work, if it doesn't they lose out on billions.

[Canesfan2020]

Had nothing to do with money.

Pfizer themselves said it was about side effects.

The side effects for Moderna were pretty mild for me and well worth having the better vaccine. "Suffer" is quite dramatic.

The difference they speak of are things like the super rare heart inflammation and the arm rash. Similar side effects other than that.

[Fat_Daddy_Cool]

Had nothing to do with money.

Pfizer themselves said it was about side effects.

The side effects for Moderna were pretty mild for me and well worth having the better vaccine. "Suffer" is quite dramatic.

The difference they speak of are things like the super rare heart inflammation and the arm rash. Similar side effects other than that.

Side effects can be more than mild, but I agree about the suffering aspect in comparison with Co-vid. My wife got the rash on her left arm for her first Moderna shot. They switched arms and she is four days in on the second, she has had a low grade fever, feels like **** with muscle soreness. We are waiting to see if the rash hits on the right arm. We are very watchful about the heart thing.

[A2597]

I'm going with Moderna, get my first shot next week.
Will be curious how much it hits me.

[Canesfan2020]

I'm going with Moderna, get my first shot next week.
Will be curious how much it hits me.

The first shot turns your arm off for a couple days. It plays a trick. You'll feel weird for a bit after then fine then you'll likely lose a bit of range of motion. I had a decent knot. It's a mix of muscle and how it interacts with lymph node.

The second shot make sure you have the following two days free. The second one for me I was fine all day then about 8pm I'm sitting in my friends bar shivering in NC summer. Not much of a fever. Count on not having any to little energy until day 2.

Got it Friday morning and by Sunday noon I was fine

[Java Cool Dude]

I'm going with Moderna, get my first shot next week.
Will be curious how much it hits me.

Curious, what's taken you this long to get vaccinated? You never struck me as anti-vaxxer...

[GSGRUNT]

I'm going with Moderna, get my first shot next week.
Will be curious how much it hits me.

I think it depends of if you have any natural immunity. I think I got a covid infection in April and the first jab in June. For me, the first jab caused flu like symptoms and the second jab was just a sore arm. Most others was the reverse.

[A2597]

Curious, what's taken you this long to get vaccinated? You never struck me as anti-vaxxer...

Sending PM. Not anti-vax by other means, but there are other personal considerations. In the interim, minimizing time out of the house, limited social interactions + maximizing outside meetings, masking, etc has been employed.

[xCLAVEx]

Curious, what's taken you this long to get vaccinated? You never struck me as anti-vaxxer...

Instead of asking people "why you take so long?" we should be happy that they are getting vaccinated at all. Some will never do it, ever (and most aren't even anti-vax, just personal reasons).

[Java Cool Dude]

Instead of asking people "why you take so long?" we should be happy that they are getting vaccinated at all. Some will never do it, ever (and most aren't even anti-vax, just personal reasons).

[Lazy8s]

Youtube (Google) bans anti-vaccine high profile accounts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/29/youtube-bans-high-profile-anti-vaccine-accounts.html

Google-owned YouTube banned prominent anti-vaccine accounts in an effort to strengthen its policies on misinformation around vaccines, the company said in a blog post Wednesday. It will also ban misinformation on all vaccines that are confirmed to be safe by the World Health Organization and local health authorities.

Social media companies have said since the beginning of the pandemic that they’re trying to stop the spread of coronavirus misinformation. But falsehoods have continued to run rampant as companies struggle to police the constant flood of posts and uploads to their platforms.

[Payne3d]

Youtube (Google) bans anti-vaccine high profile accounts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/29/yout...-accounts.html

why stop there? why not ban every nut job on youtube?

[Lazy8s]

why stop there? why not ban every nut job on youtube?

They’re outside the scope of this thread.

[Payne3d]

They’re outside the scope of this thread.

seems arbitrary, but ok.

[acroig]

seems arbitrary, but ok.

I don't think so.

[xCLAVEx]

seems arbitrary, but ok.

It is outside the scope of the thread, but it is isn't arbitrary because it wasn't random.

[acroig]

It is outside the scope of the thread, but it is isn't arbitrary because it wasn't random.

This.

[SubCog]

Can we talk about boobs now?

[Crawdaddy79]

Can we talk about boobs now?

What's to talk about? They're hairy and full of COVID. Next.

[Shapeshifter]

Youtube (Google) bans anti-vaccine high profile accounts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/29/yout...-accounts.html

Russia is already threatening retaliation because some of it's youtube RT state tv channels were deleted.

[xCLAVEx]

Russia is already threatening retaliation because some of it's youtube RT state tv channels were deleted.

[Lazy8s]

Russia is already threatening retaliation because some of it's youtube RT state tv channels were deleted.

iirc YT stated they weren’t confining bans to covid only misinformation. Without getting political I can only say that some of the bans are probably going to stir up ill will towards Google from multiple parties.

[Lazy8s]

It is outside the scope of the thread, but it is isn't arbitrary because it wasn't random.

This.

[Crawdaddy79]

iirc YT stated they weren’t confining bans to covid only misinformation. Without getting political I can only say that some of the bans are probably going to stir up ill will towards Google from multiple parties.

Yep. Google might be losing the Russia market as retaliation for blocking RT content. Sucks because those dashcam vids probably bring in a good level of revenue.

[SD-[Inc]]

Youtube (Google) bans anti-vaccine high profile accounts.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/29/yout...-accounts.html

Tucker Carlson still on the platform?

[bill dennison]

back from Wyoming it was covid that killed him in 3 days attacked his kidneys and killed them
mad that they never gave him the shop


military funeral was nice chocked me up when they gave me the flag


27 hours driving back with the escalade and a 12 foot U-Hall and two dogs
and I got something in my eye working around his loading bench and had the go twice to the hospital have it removed second time they were grinding on my eye with something that looked like a small dremel tool
hurt like hell when the deadener kicked off and they had to patch my eye so the eyelid wouldn't move for 12 hours

fun trip back with one blurry eye that didn't like the sun

[acroig]

military funeral was nice chocked me up when they gave me the flag

[Lazy8s]

back from Wyoming it was covid that killed him in 3 days attacked his kidneys and killed them
mad that they never gave him the shop


military funeral was nice chocked me up when they gave me the flag


27 hours driving back with the escalade and a 12 foot U-Hall and two dogs
and I got something in my eye working around his loading bench and had the go twice to the hospital have it removed second time they were grinding on my eye with something that looked like a small dremel tool
hurt like hell when the deadener kicked off and they had to patch my eye so the eyelid wouldn't move for 12 hours

fun trip back with one blurry eye that didn't like the sun

You've been through a lot bill. I hope you get a peaceful stretch here soon

[acroig]

You've been through a lot bill. I hope you get a peaceful stretch here soon

+1

[SubCog]

Tucker Carlson still on the platform?

Carlson hasn't been proven to be a russian agent... yet.

[logical]

You've been through a lot bill. I hope you get a peaceful stretch here soon

Agreed. Holding it together pretty well.

[Cyko]

You've been through a lot bill. I hope you get a peaceful stretch here soon

This. All of this.

[Greasy]

Bill I hope the good times roll for you soon brother. Hang in there man.

[Silent-Runner]

man, Bill, sending tons of good vibes your way. Stay strong and pull through.

[bill dennison]

thanks guys

dad seems to be getting better every day so far so that is one thing


lost 10 pounds on the trip not eating much and new mexico's governor pissed me off by closing all the fast food
not great when you have a uhaul trailer and can't go thru the drive thru

[acroig]

thanks guys

dad seems to be getting better every day so far so that is one thing

Good news!

[bill dennison]

Good news!

brought him home a 167 pound bucket of money my uncle had
I could barely carry it to the truck as i'm down to 155
I need to get back on the bike and up to 165

but he is having a ball looking for pre 64 silver coins and finding some


no wonder there is a coin shortage
5 gallon bucket of money

[andino]

Sorry for your loss Bill.