Official Thread: Coronavirus "COVID-19"

[koralis]

The only issue is managing hospital loads. So that might explain the changes in policies... last year we were hoping to avoid people getting sick at all, and now we just want to make sure everyone doesn't get sick at the same time.

Back to the beginning, where it was all about "bending the curve" not stopping the pandemic.

[ElBerryKM13]

Sounds like what our provincial government is unintentionally doing....
They've done nothing except bring back mask mandates and the cases continue to trend upwards and our health care system is getting overwhelmed.

Im tired of it and im just thinking lets just all get Covid and whomever dies...they die.
Just dont take my son (hes only 10months old), and my family is double vaxxed so hopefully we dont get either...or if we all do we all fight it off with relative ease.

What do you mean double vaxxed? You took both the pfizer and the moderna vaccines?

[Java Cool Dude]

What do you mean double vaxxed? You took both the pfizer and the moderna vaccines?

Two mRNA shots.

[Lazy8s]

I've heard some epidemiologists suggest that we're at a point where everyone is expected to get delta, and there's really no point in trying to stop it. The only issue is managing hospital loads. So that might explain the changes in policies... last year we were hoping to avoid people getting sick at all, and now we just want to make sure everyone doesn't get sick at the same time. It really is a very different situation, and calls for different strategies.

I've read the same thing, and quite frankly, my wife and I will continue with our due diligence regardless of what anyone anywhere says, because there is so much conflict and misinformation out there that it pays only to be as safe as you can be personally.

Delta came along and is a super contagion. What happens if one of the next variants has that trans-missive capability and is able to breakthrough the vaccines, and then turn out to be more deadly than any of the others?

It's not out of the question or realm of possibility. Therefore...I stay masked and vaxxed up as much as possible.

[SubCog]

I've read the same thing, and quite frankly, my wife and I will continue with our due diligence regardless of what anyone anywhere says, because there is so much conflict and misinformation out there that it pays only to be as safe as you can be personally.

Delta came along and is a super contagion. What happens if one of the next variants has that trans-missive capability and is able to breakthrough the vaccines, and then turn out to be more deadly than any of the others?

It's not out of the question or realm of possibility. Therefore...I stay masked and vaxxed up as much as possible.

yup, take every reasonable precaution.

[12Bass]

What do you mean double vaxxed? You took both the pfizer and the moderna vaccines?

When vaccines started to trickle in, Canada (and the UK?) decided to focus on getting one shot into as many people as possible, extending the time between doses. So, for a few months, many people were only "single vaxxed", hence people stating later on that they are now "double vaxxed". Canada also gave thousands of 50+ people mixed AstraZeneca and mRNA shots, after the reports of the risk of blood clots came in. Some studies suggest that mixing vaccines may produce a better antibody response.

[AllexxisF1]

NBC is reporting that Pfizer is gonna wrap up the kid's trials in late September. The FDA can wrap up its end with the emergency authorization in October.

Our kids might be lucky and get the shots before Halloween.

*FINGERS ****ING CROSSED.

[KAC]

NBC is reporting that Pfizer is gonna wrap up the kid's trials in late September. The FDA can wrap up its end with the emergency authorization in October.

Our kids might be lucky and get the shots before Halloween.

*FINGERS ****ING CROSSED.

Definition of kids?

[acroig]

Definition of kids?

I'm getting a little tired of the stupid troll posts and the profanity you leave all over the forum....

Take this as a warning.

[AllexxisF1]

Definition of kids?

The next round is for 11-5 years old I believe.

[Sasquach]

I've read the same thing, and quite frankly, my wife and I will continue with our due diligence regardless of what anyone anywhere says, because there is so much conflict and misinformation out there that it pays only to be as safe as you can be personally.

Delta came along and is a super contagion. What happens if one of the next variants has that trans-missive capability and is able to breakthrough the vaccines, and then turn out to be more deadly than any of the others?

It's not out of the question or realm of possibility. Therefore...I stay masked and vaxxed up as much as possible.

Theres a new variant called MU that might be the next stage of Delta....hasnt been widespread yet and no telling if it will get to that point. Might required a few more boosters to deal with it.

[Lazy8s]

Theres a new variant called MU that might be the next stage of Delta....hasnt been widespread yet and no telling if it will get to that point. Might required a few more boosters to deal with it.

I'm going for my booster soon. My mom got hers after chemo today.

I've seen a few writeups about MU lately, but it seemed they were still in the study stage. I hope it's (relatively) harmless, because >4.5 million dead hasn't convinced half our population it's really not the flu.

[bill dennison]

they have put my Uncle my dads brother on palliative care

he is in Wyoming has covid and end stage kidney failure with it and ripped out his IV last night and lost a lot of blood

94 was years old 29th of last month

he went into the Army as a E1 in January of 1942 at age 15 and was a combat mp in the US 3rd army hunting snipers before his 16th birthday
two battlefield commission in WW2 and retired in 1976 as a Lt Colonel

I have sent for his Army 201 file as he never talked about it

[Lazy8s]

they have put my Uncle my dads brother on palliative care

he is in Wyoming has covid and end stage kidney failure with it and ripped out his IV last night and lost a lot of blood

94 was years old 29th of last month

he went into the Army as a E1 in January of 1942 at age 15 and was a combat mp in the US 3rd army hunting snipers before his 16th birthday
two battlefield commission in WW2 and retired in 1976 as a Lt Colonel

I have sent for his Army 201 file as he never talked about it

[Greasy]

they have put my Uncle my dads brother on palliative care

he is in Wyoming has covid and end stage kidney failure with it and ripped out his IV last night and lost a lot of blood

94 was years old 29th of last month

he went into the Army as a E1 in January of 1942 at age 15 and was a combat mp in the US 3rd army hunting snipers before his 16th birthday
two battlefield commission in WW2 and retired in 1976 as a Lt Colonel

I have sent for his Army 201 file as he never talked about it

A true bad ass! When his time comes may he RIP.

[xCLAVEx]

Theres a new variant called MU that might be the next stage of Delta....hasnt been widespread yet and no telling if it will get to that point. Might required a few more boosters to deal with it.

MU is just a different variant but it's not as contagious as delta so it hasn't spread as quickly.

[acroig]

94 was years old 29th of last month

he went into the Army as a E1 in January of 1942 at age 15 and was a combat mp in the US 3rd army hunting snipers before his 16th birthday
two battlefield commission in WW2 and retired in 1976 as a Lt Colonel

I have sent for his Army 201 file as he never talked about it

A true American hero, we honor his gallant service.

[MyTMouse]

I'm going for my booster soon. My mom got hers after chemo today.

I've seen a few writeups about MU lately, but it seemed they were still in the study stage. I hope it's (relatively) harmless, because >4.5 million dead hasn't convinced half our population it's really not the flu.

The thing is to most people Covid is exactly that...just a flu or even less for some, heck some barely get any side effects at all for some reason. Even if a new variant came along that was more than double the death rate of what we have now the majority of people would still survive and those same people will still think the same. It is a flu basically but it's like a super-flu on steroids thanks (likely) to it being (likely) engineered in a lab to be this way. Plus the flu itself is nothing to scoff at...it can be very deadly as well and kills hundreds of thousands a year, it just mostly peters out when the weather gets warm and Covid certainly doesn't, which is what I was originally hoping for when we first found out about it

[Jay20016]

The thing is to most people Covid is exactly that...just a flu or even less for some, heck some barely get any side effects at all for some reason. Even if a new variant came along that was more than double the death rate of what we have now the majority of people would still survive and those same people will still think the same. It is a flu basically but it's like a super-flu on steroids thanks (likely) to it being (likely) engineered in a lab to be this way. Plus the flu itself is nothing to scoff at...it can be very deadly as well and kills hundreds of thousands a year, it just mostly peters out when the weather gets warm and Covid certainly doesn't, which is what I was originally hoping for when we first found out about it

Long COVID says hello.

A buddy of mine still hasn’t regained his sense of taste and only lightly sense of smell (think the most foul orders he can barely smell where others can’t be in them for more than a few seconds)

Untold damage to respiratory and cardiac systems in those who have ‘just a flu’.

[AllexxisF1]

My Family drama round #2.

So my Aunt Zeza isn't even in the ground yet right? Well her sister Amanda, my other Aunt, refuses to get the vaccine because she's a vegan, ultra-religious something or rather.

Amanda lives in Boca in Florida, an incredibly sweet woman, and a lifelong democrat. Her daughter that lives near her - Rita, is a mathematician and professor at a university in Florida. She's won prestigious math awards and is widely recognized by her peers. She refuses the vaccine because, well it's political and we can't talk about that here.

So guess who hung out with my Aunt Amanda this weekend with her kid, and they both came back positive with COVID?

So now we wait to see if Amanda gets sick. My Aunt is even in worse health than Zeza.

My Mom is going to lose two sisters in a damn month if she's sick.

Her other daughter Ava (a normal person) is beside herself with fury and the anger of a thousand Suns.

[acroig]

Untold damage to respiratory and cardiac systems in those who have ‘just a flu’.

Yeah, it's not just a flu.

[acroig]

Her other daughter Ava (a normal person) is beside herself with fury and the anger of a thousand Suns.

Rightfully so, what a tragedy. These deaths are all so needless.

[12Bass]

The thing is to most people Covid is exactly that...just a flu or even less for some, heck some barely get any side effects at all for some reason. Even if a new variant came along that was more than double the death rate of what we have now the majority of people would still survive and those same people will still think the same. It is a flu basically but it's like a super-flu on steroids thanks (likely) to it being (likely) engineered in a lab to be this way. Plus the flu itself is nothing to scoff at...it can be very deadly as well and kills hundreds of thousands a year, it just mostly peters out when the weather gets warm and Covid certainly doesn't, which is what I was originally hoping for when we first found out about it

We wouldn't be in a global pandemic if COVID-19 were "just a flu". Think about that for a moment, the idea of claiming that the whole world shut down due to "just a flu". Saying it's "just a flu" dangerously minimizes the seriousness of the situation.

This is a view I hear a lot from people who frequent certain rabbit holes that can't be discussed here. But rest assured, COVID-19 is much more serious and deadly than any normal flu. Just pop out of the rabbit hole for a minute and do a quick google and look at the various reports on death and severe disease, then compare that to a regular flu... and please report back with your findings!

[bill dennison]

A true American hero, we honor his gallant service.

thanks guys


he passed peacefully last night

[Lazy8s]

thanks guys


he passed peacefully last night

Sorry for your loss bill

[acroig]

thanks guys


he passed peacefully last night

May he rest in peace. My condolences.

[xCLAVEx]

thanks guys


he passed peacefully last night

Sounds like he was a good man. Sorry Bill

[Nunz]

The thing is to most people Covid is exactly that...just a flu or even less for some, heck some barely get any side effects at all for some reason. Even if a new variant came along that was more than double the death rate of what we have now the majority of people would still survive and those same people will still think the same. It is a flu basically but it's like a super-flu on steroids thanks (likely) to it being (likely) engineered in a lab to be this way. Plus the flu itself is nothing to scoff at...it can be very deadly as well and kills hundreds of thousands a year, it just mostly peters out when the weather gets warm and Covid certainly doesn't, which is what I was originally hoping for when we first found out about it

There's far too much out there to hold the opinion that this is "just the flu".

Buddy I used to work with caught it. Unvaxxed. Hospitalized for over a week, put on oxygen after he developed pneumonia and his lungs were ravaged. Slowly recovered, and it's been ~2 weeks since he got out of the hospital - he gets exhausted just from walking down the street.

He had all the opportunity in the world to get vaccinated. Took advice from the wrong people and he almost left his wife and three kids (one just an infant) without a father or main income.

Definitely not "just the flu". He's like 31 years old.

[Nunz]

thanks guys


he passed peacefully last night

Wow, missed that. Sorry bill. Hell of a man.. they don't make em like they used to.

[acroig]

Wow, missed that. Sorry bill. Hell of a man.. they don't make em like they used to.

tru.dat, greatest generation.

[Elysian]

There's far too much out there to hold the opinion that this is "just the flu".

Buddy I used to work with caught it. Unvaxxed. Hospitalized for over a week, put on oxygen after he developed pneumonia and his lungs were ravaged. Slowly recovered, and it's been ~2 weeks since he got out of the hospital - he gets exhausted just from walking down the street.

He had all the opportunity in the world to get vaccinated. Took advice from the wrong people and he almost left his wife and three kids (one just an infant) without a father or main income.

Definitely not "just the flu". He's like 31 years old.

I don't know how, after over 19 months of this crap, someone can still think it's "just a flu" or even "like a strong flu..." It's so much more than that. I wish people would give the COVID pandemic the seriousness it deserves.

[acroig]

I don't know how, after over 19 months of this crap, someone can still think it's "just a flu" or even "like a strong flu..." It's so much more than that. I wish people would give the COVID pandemic the seriousness it deserves.

Lots of people live in denial, that this is a made up issue by "the libs " and it's up to them to resist and preserve their "rights".

Many have died because of this and will continue to.

[Sasquach]

I don't know how, after over 19 months of this crap, someone can still think it's "just a flu" or even "like a strong flu..." It's so much more than that. I wish people would give the COVID pandemic the seriousness it deserves.

If they still think its just the flu, they can catch it and beat it just like the flu.
If they can even beat it.

When this whole thing started i thought it was just the flu too (i think alot of people did).
But as the cases went up, and the severity of this was starting to manifest, it didn't take long to realize it is more than "just the flu".

Unfortunately a ton of people are still stuck in that first gear of "just the flu" and its gonna bite them in the butt one way or another.
And we all pay the consequences as a result.

[dodger]

thanks guys


he passed peacefully last night

Sorry for your loss Bill.

[Jay20016]

thanks guys


he passed peacefully last night

Sorry for your loss, the amount of which going around recently is too damn high.

I don't know how, after over 19 months of this crap, someone can still think it's "just a flu" or even "like a strong flu..." It's so much more than that. I wish people would give the COVID pandemic the seriousness it deserves.

"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." - Carl Sagan

[Shapeshifter]

[AllexxisF1]

Sorry for your loss Bill.

[koralis]

Buddy I used to work with caught it. Unvaxxed. Hospitalized for over a week, put on oxygen after he developed pneumonia and his lungs were ravaged. Slowly recovered, and it's been ~2 weeks since he got out of the hospital - he gets exhausted just from walking down the street.

https://news.yahoo.com/1-3-covid-19-patients-170012968.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZHJ1ZGdlcmVwb3J0LmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANiCuTxvi5dsCy79cUhoHV0K3mlCzxRC-94usUwxtr7CCilHzIpDTTrqWHc0d3501CgXGg9sNERoThL77CuzfXaPnnYB-r-m8RLSFB0x8MkxSf0zktcIpmI7eO4M1YNNde9qzm4n3zqklbbs4pmYwv8ArE6BbXkdq18C__Yzg9BS

One in three people who survived COVID-19 suffered from long COVID, according to a study of Long Beach residents published by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Thursday.

The study found that these long COVID patients reported at least one symptom of COVID-19 two months after first testing positive for the coronavirus.
...
The study found that 35% of survey responders reported at least one ongoing symptom of COVID-19 two months after the initial positive test.

Fatigue was reported by 17% of those long COVID patients; difficulty breathing and loss of taste or smell were reported by 13%; and muscle or joint pain was reported by 11%.
...
Experts say that vaccination not only reduces the chance of falling ill with COVID-19, but it probably also reduces the chance of enduring long COVID should a vaccinated person contract a breakthrough infection.

[MyTMouse]

Methinks a lot of people on this forum have serious reading comprehension problems or just don't use their brains for critical thinking much.

I NEVER SAID IT WAS "JUST A FLU"...get that through your thick skulls for a moment

I said for the people who do think that way it'll likely always be that way because the vast majority of people don't die from covid or suffer massive problems from it...yes, millions of people have died but a huge number more people have completely recovered from it. Several people at my work have got it and out of those 75% of them had basic cold or flu symptoms and nothing more...a couple more have long lingering health problems so obviously it's still serious business. It's a strange virus to be sure as some people barely get symptoms and others (who don't die) are given a serious physical beating.

I just have no patience for people on here who read like one thing out of context and then shoot their mouths off like triggered children. I think I'm done with this thread

[Jay20016]

Methinks a lot of people on this forum have serious reading comprehension problems or just don't use their brains for critical thinking much.

I NEVER SAID IT WAS "JUST A FLU"...get that through your thick skulls for a moment

I said for the people who do think that way it'll likely always be that way because the vast majority of people don't die from covid or suffer massive problems from it...yes, millions of people have died but a huge number more people have completely recovered from it. Several people at my work have got it and out of those 75% of them had basic cold or flu symptoms and nothing more...a couple more have long lingering health problems so obviously it's still serious business. It's a strange virus to be sure as some people barely get symptoms and others (who don't die) are given a serious physical beating.

I just have no patience for people on here who read like one thing out of context and then shoot their mouths off like triggered children. I think I'm done with this thread

(1)The thing is to most people Covid is exactly that...just a flu or even less for some, heck some barely get any side effects at all for some reason. Even if a new variant came along that was more than double the death rate of what we have now the majority of people would still survive and those same people will still think the same. (2)It is a flu basically but it's like a super-flu on steroids thanks (likely) to it being (likely) engineered in a lab to be this way. Plus the flu itself is nothing to scoff at...it can be very deadly as well and kills hundreds of thousands a year, it just mostly peters out when the weather gets warm and Covid certainly doesn't, which is what I was originally hoping for when we first found out about it

The problem is that you are unclear on what you originally wrote. I understand that you are saying that in the first bolded part of "To most people..." you're saying that the opinion of these people is that it is just a flu. However, English being the way it is, the second reading of that, even in the context of everything you wrote, can also come off as not being about the opinion of other people about covid, but rather how for some people who are infected with Covid it is "just a flu" to them. Once infected, they only suffer symptoms that are like the seasonal flu. I mean, you literally go on in the most recent post to say this exact thing, so.... are we confused, or are you?

The only triggered child I see is the mod who should know better to insinuate about cognitive abilities and reading comprehension or popping off every time that their opinion is rebutted.

And don't even get me started on why your statements belie the fact that whatever 'research' or 'news' you watch undermine every ounce of credibility or credence one may put towards you... No matter how many (likely) you put in something, no matter how much you want to make it so, there has been no conclusive evidence towards it being engineered in a lab. Those additions to the OP just make it even easier for others to assume what your intent was in the first place as it stems from a mindset that seeks to often deny reality because of their political leaning and preferred "news" sources, many of which still parrot the "just a flu" esque narrative to downplay what has taken too god damned many lives.