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    It's one thing to euthanize them with gas/injections, but shot dead?!!!

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      Wow...that's insane

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        Originally posted by Java Cool Dude View Post
        It's one thing to euthanize them with gas/injections, but shot dead?!!!
        I don't think that's the craziest part of this story
        Originally posted by curio
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          Originally posted by Nunz View Post
          I don't think that's the craziest part of this story
          Not the craziest but cruel beyond words. Chill out

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            A council in Australia needs to be shoot dead to prevent the spread of the deadliest disease....

            …….. stupidity

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              Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
              A council in Australia needs to be shoot dead to prevent the spread of the deadliest disease....

              …….. stupidity
              Careful there bud, let's not all be judged by our own yardstick.

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                Originally posted by acroig View Post
                Careful there bud, let's not all be judged by our own yardstick.
                sorry but killing dogs over covid is a new high in stupidity


                some council killed my dogs like this over covid that dogs don't carry and pups
                they would all be sleeping with Jimmy Hoffa .

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                  Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                  sorry but killing dogs over covid is a new high in stupidity


                  some council killed my dogs like this over covid that dogs don't carry and pups
                  they would all be sleeping with Jimmy Hoffa .
                  Letting humans die needlessly of it is also stupid.

                  Not arguing, the killing of the dogs was cruel and unnecessary.

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                    Originally posted by acroig View Post
                    Letting humans die needlessly of it is also stupid.

                    Not arguing, the killing of the dogs was cruel and unnecessary.
                    well the way they are going down under they will be shooting anyone that pops possessive for the virus next

                    shooting anything defenceless in a cage of no good reason pisses me off


                    …….

                    get vaccinated and stay in shape

                    so far I can't tell the difference between covid and eating at Chipotle

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                      Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                      how many of these new covid cases numbers are fully vaccinated to non vaccinated ?
                      Saw a report on this a while back. Found this in an image search.

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                        Eh, seems strange not every state is listed on that chart.
                        Originally posted by curio
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                          Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                          Eh, seems strange not every state is listed on that chart.
                          I wonder if they’re only showing states that are above a certain percent of the population infected?

                          I mainly find it disheartening because it simply doesn’t have to be this way. We can prevent severe illness now.

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                            Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                            I wonder if they’re only showing states that are above a certain percent of the population infected?

                            I mainly find it disheartening because it simply doesn’t have to be this way. We can prevent severe illness now.
                            They are all using the same playbook. For example, NC doesn't report breakthrough cases.

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                              Originally posted by Canesfan2020 View Post
                              They are all using the same playbook. For example, NC doesn't report breakthrough cases.
                              It just seems so irresponsible to me. It looks like "Whoever has the best numbers wins!" regardless of the reality of the virus and hospitalizations.

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                                Breakthrough cases are a bit irrelevant. Delta is as contagious as any virus ever has been. What really matters is hospitalizations. If dangerous symptoms are very rare, there is no need to implement any of the mitigating factors we are having today. It could actually be just "like the flu" in that case. The benefits are completely obvious when you look at the emergency rooms of states with low vaccination rates.

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                                  Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                  ...so far I can't tell the difference between covid and eating at Chipotle

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                                    Originally posted by SD-[Inc] View Post
                                    Breakthrough cases are a bit irrelevant. Delta is as contagious as any virus ever has been. What really matters is hospitalizations. If dangerous symptoms are very rare, there is no need to implement any of the mitigating factors we are having today. It could actually be just "like the flu" in that case. The benefits are completely obvious when you look at the emergency rooms of states with low vaccination rates.
                                    The relevancy is that a vaccinated person can still transmit the virus imo. Chances are they themselves won't require hospitalization. But that's why I believe the numbers ought to be tracked.

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                                      Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                                      The relevancy is that a vaccinated person can still transmit the virus imo. Chances are they themselves won't require hospitalization. But that's why I believe the numbers ought to be tracked.
                                      We already know that can happen. But, how long are they contagious if at all are the more complicated factors to measure. In addition, most infections for vaccinated people are completely asymptomatic. So any numbers are probably way off. That’s why hospitalizations are a better measure. And, the one that really matters. Controlling the spread is the only way to decrease hospitalizations. % of people vaccinated also decreases hospitalizations. So, success in fighting the virus can be measured with this stat alone.

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                                        Not studying breakthrough cases is irresponsible not because we expect reinfections but what it can tell us about potential issues with the vaccine, and information about the factors of people being reinfected. The CDC only looks at hospitaizations. I don't know about you guys but I know a few people that were not hospitalized but still had significant complications.

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                                          75 Doctors from Florida Hospitals Walk Out in Protest of Unvaccinated Patients: 'We Are Exhausted'

                                          "They're getting this from a preventable illness," said Dr. Ethan Chapin of the unvaccinated COVID-19 patients flooding South Florida hospitals

                                          In protest of the deluge of unvaccinated COVID-19 patients filling up area hospitals, around 75 doctors from South Florida staged a walkout on Monday to urge people to get inoculated.

                                          Early in the morning before the start of their shifts, the doctors briefly stood outside and spoke against the high number of people in the Palm Beach area who refuse to get vaccinated.

                                          "We are exhausted. Our patience and resources are running low and we need your help," Dr. Rupesh Dharia, from Palm Beach Internal Medicine, told WFLA News.
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                                            Originally posted by Canesfan2020 View Post
                                            Not studying breakthrough cases is irresponsible not because we expect reinfections but what it can tell us about potential issues with the vaccine, and information about the factors of people being reinfected. The CDC only looks at hospitaizations. I don't know about you guys but I know a few people that were not hospitalized but still had significant complications.
                                            Vaccines efficiency dropped from %91 to somewhere around %66 with Delta being the dominant strain nowadays:
                                            For frontline workers, COVID-19 mRNA vaccines, Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, are effective against viral infection, but less effective during Delta variant spread.

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                                              Originally posted by Java Cool Dude View Post
                                              Vaccines efficiency dropped from %91 to somewhere around %66 with Delta being the dominant strain nowadays:
                                              https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...cid=mm7034e4_w
                                              That information has been out a while. That's not my point. We've all been exposed to many viruses in our lifetime. Some have been pretty nasty. But, in almost all cases, we hadn't required hospitalization. The chance of serious hospitalization/death is what determines the danger of infection. Not just getting infected.

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                                                Originally posted by Canesfan2020 View Post
                                                Not studying breakthrough cases is irresponsible not because we expect reinfections but what it can tell us about potential issues with the vaccine, and information about the factors of people being reinfected. The CDC only looks at hospitaizations. I don't know about you guys but I know a few people that were not hospitalized but still had significant complications.
                                                Yeah, that seems like a no brainer to me, but apparently they feel it would just fuel the antivax crowd. Nothing they say is going to change their minds anyway, so why not report, so the vaccine makers can know if they need to tweak.

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                                                  Originally posted by AllexxisF1 View Post
                                                  Ya, that was LOL

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                                                    Going back to the treatment vs prevention thing...




                                                    Still, some unvaccinated people appear to view the antibody treatments as a backup plan if they get sick, several health officials said.

                                                    At Memorial Hospital Pembroke in South Florida, Chief Nursing Officer David Starnes has overseen treatment of more than 2,000 patients with antibody cocktails since December. At least 90 percent of the patients have been unvaccinated—and the numbers keep climbing.

                                                    “What’s amazing to me is that a vaccine we’ve been working on for 10 years, they are deathly afraid of,” Starnes said. “But this highly experimental cocktail? They’re willing to run in there the minute that they’re sick to get this infused into their bodies.”

                                                    Just backs up the "not a big deal" until something hits them, THEN they want treatment.

                                                    But at least some of these people can change their minds at least.

                                                    Ruppert, the Gainesville preschool teacher, said she, too, was grateful. She and her husband both felt better within days of being treated at UF Health Shands Hospital. The experience has caused her to rethink how to protect herself and her family from COVID.

                                                    “Now that I’ve been there, I have a completely different perspective on this,” said Ruppert, who will be eligible for vaccination in mid-October, 90 days after the antibody infusion. “I most likely will be vaccinated.”
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                                                      Well, I suppose that's better than taking animal dewormer.

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                                                        people who don't want to get vaccinated while they can and then demand it when it's too late kinda remind me of people who decide to take their own life by hanging themselves. The second their feet leave the chair they suddenly change their mind, but there's no way back. Both die a miserable, avoidable death, one that only themselves are responsible for. It's tragic. What a horrible way to die, i can't even imagine how horrible.


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                                                          They would rather take the treatment because that's what they're been hearing from the 'news' sources they subscribe to have been telling them. That and their former President who was saved by that treatment.

                                                          It's the most clear-cut evidence that misinformation-for-cash is a real problem in the United States.

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                                                            Originally posted by AllexxisF1 View Post
                                                            It's the most clear-cut evidence that misinformation-for-cash is a real problem in the United States.
                                                            QFT!

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                                                              Getting a covid test today.
                                                              Even though I've been double vaxxed for a few months, getting a cold on top of my allergies makes me want to double check. Fingers crossed its just a cold.
                                                              Take what you want...and then pay for it...

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                                                                Originally posted by huskylord View Post
                                                                Getting a covid test today.
                                                                Even though I've been double vaxxed for a few months, getting a cold on top of my allergies makes me want to double check. Fingers crossed its just a cold.
                                                                My old boss had covid late last year. He's fully vaccinated now too. His entire family is sick again, so he's getting tested today.

                                                                Hope it's just a regular cold man. Almost forgot those existed these days.

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                                                                  Why is this not considered murder?

                                                                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...edgdhp&pc=U531

                                                                  A Florida teacher who couldn't get vaccinated because of her cancer treatment died of COVID-19. Her union says she caught it from her classroom, which had no mask mandate.

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                                                                    Originally posted by AllexxisF1 View Post
                                                                    They would rather take the treatment because that's what they're been hearing from the 'news' sources they subscribe to have been telling them. That and their former President who was saved by that treatment.

                                                                    It's the most clear-cut evidence that misinformation-for-cash is a real problem in the United States.
                                                                    They conveniently forget that Trump took antibody treatment, Hydrocloronique or whatever, AND he got vaccinated.

                                                                    Basically he took everything that he could lol.
                                                                    And somehow the Trumpians only accept the antibody treatment........
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                                                                      Originally posted by SD-[Inc] View Post
                                                                      Need someone to blame.
                                                                      And they wont blame kids.
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                                                                        Originally posted by SD-[Inc] View Post
                                                                        That's what I want to know. It's crazy there aren't any criminal charges to people responsible for policies that put public health at risk. Everyone should be suing for health and financial damages.
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                                                                          Originally posted by koralis View Post
                                                                          Going back to the treatment vs prevention thing...







                                                                          Just backs up the "not a big deal" until something hits them, THEN they want treatment.

                                                                          But at least some of these people can change their minds at least.
                                                                          there is no prevention thing .

                                                                          vaccinated or not if exposed you will get it .
                                                                          vaccinated just stops it from being very bad in most people not all

                                                                          and what's wrong with Antibodies ???


                                                                          VA Doc came in and told me I have it and will be getting monoclonal antibodies and I said ok make this Sh*t go away
                                                                          so the Fed is pushing Antibodies also

                                                                          and after 3 days with Antibodies my 8 days of Montezuma's revenge looks to be gone and no fever in 3 days

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                                                                            Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                                            there is no prevention thing .

                                                                            vaccinated or not if exposed you will get it .
                                                                            vaccinated just stops it from being very bad in most people not all

                                                                            and what's wrong with Antibodies ???


                                                                            VA Doc came in and told me I have it and will be getting monoclonal antibodies and I said ok make this Sh*t go away
                                                                            so the Fed is pushing Antibodies also

                                                                            and after 3 days with Antibodies my 8 days of Montezuma's revenge looks to be gone and no fever in 3 days
                                                                            That's kinda what prevention is. Not being exposed.

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                                                                              Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                                              there is no prevention thing .

                                                                              vaccinated or not if exposed you will get it .
                                                                              vaccinated just stops it from being very bad in most people not all

                                                                              and what's wrong with Antibodies ???


                                                                              VA Doc came in and told me I have it and will be getting monoclonal antibodies and I said ok make this Sh*t go away
                                                                              so the Fed is pushing Antibodies also

                                                                              and after 3 days with Antibodies my 8 days of Montezuma's revenge looks to be gone and no fever in 3 days
                                                                              Antibodies are great. But it's pretty invasive treatment too. It's illogical that a person that didn't feel safe taking a vaccine would agree to antibody treatment. But, at this point, if it saves lives it doesn't matter.

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                                                                                Originally posted by SD-[Inc] View Post
                                                                                Antibodies are great. But it's pretty invasive treatment too. It's illogical that a person that didn't feel safe taking a vaccine would agree to antibody treatment. But, at this point, if it saves lives it doesn't matter.
                                                                                people are illogical .

                                                                                everyone has some quirk


                                                                                the casirivimab and imdevimab I had took a half hour to mix then half hour to pump into me

                                                                                then I had to lay there listening to music on my AirPods Pro for a full hour why they watched for any allergic reactions

                                                                                then I had to wait a hour on a very busy Doc to sign me out

                                                                                whole thing took 7 hours in the VA ER

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                                                                                  Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                                                  how many of these new covid cases numbers are fully vaccinated to non vaccinated ?
                                                                                  The last report i read here was 81% of the cases are non-vaxxed (either yesterday or couple days ago)
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