Official Thread: Coronavirus "COVID-19"

[Crawdaddy79]

My g/fs sisters husband died today of Corona virus. He had it for a week and died at home, never even made it to the hospital. G/F can't even go see her because her sister and her family have it also.

I remember when this thing started there were isolated cases of people just dropping. Took some time but it was learned that most of the younger, healthy deaths were caused by stroke via blood clot. The spiky nature of the virus just causes cells to stick to each other.

Drinking dehydrates you, and being dehydrated increases your chance of getting a blood clot.

One of the first stories that got my attention was the health industry (therapist?) worker in her late 30's, living in New Orleans. Last text to her boyfriend was that she was going to self medicate with liquor and next day they found her dead on the kitchen floor. She was otherwise healthy. There were a few others but when the cases started ramping up the focus changed.

[Java Cool Dude]

#ShouldHaveGottenModerna

[xCLAVEx]

I remember when this thing started there were isolated cases of people just dropping. Took some time but it was learned that most of the younger, healthy deaths were caused by stroke via blood clot. The spiky nature of the virus just causes cells to stick to each other.

Drinking dehydrates you, and being dehydrated increases your chance of getting a blood clot.

One of the first stories that got my attention was the health industry (therapist?) worker in her late 30's, living in New Orleans. Last text to her boyfriend was that she was going to self medicate with liquor and next day they found her dead on the kitchen floor. She was otherwise healthy. There were a few others but when the cases started ramping up the focus changed.

I found out more info. Apparently he did have a pre-existing condition, one that he should have gone to hospital for. He had asthma. That would have made covid a real threat to him.

[MyTMouse]

How did you notice the heart issue after the second dose?

I got it after both doses but 2nd one was longer and more pronounced. Every time my heart misfires and I get extra beats I can feel it in my chest...if it happens long enough (usually very brief) I can feel a bit out of breath. It's something I may only feel a couple times a day but after the Moderna vaccines they happened anywhere from a dozen to maybe 20 times a day and lasted longer too.

I'm glad I was able to get the Moderna vaccine that I wanted especially after I see it seems to be the most effective one (what I suspected). I'm a little hesitant to get a 3rd dose after the heart issues though. Only time will tell how necessary it is

[Sasquach]

I think the vaccine issues are a bit overblown.

Mainly because the rate of the side effects occuring is VERY low. We have what several hundred millions of vaccines administered all over the world and we're seeing several thousand side effects, something like that?

I dont think its any different than other vaccines to be honest.

I think its just more pronounced now because of how rushed these things were to public so every little thing is being looked under the microscope.
Might also be cuz the side effects are pretty significant but then i dont know what kind of bad side effects can happen with other vaccines that we dont hear about, since they dont get reported. none of them are 100% safe

I guess what im saying is i wouldnt be too concerned about the side effects if it came down to either taking the shots or not.
i might be a bit more cautious or think about it more if ive had a history or some kind of history of health issues though.

[xCLAVEx]

I think the vaccine issues are a bit overblown.

Mainly because the rate of the side effects occuring is VERY low. We have what several hundred millions of vaccines administered all over the world and we're seeing several thousand side effects, something like that?

I dont think its any different than other vaccines to be honest.

I think its just more pronounced now because of how rushed these things were to public so every little thing is being looked under the microscope.
Might also be cuz the side effects are pretty significant but then i dont know what kind of bad side effects can happen with other vaccines that we dont hear about, since they dont get reported. none of them are 100% safe

I guess what im saying is i wouldnt be too concerned about the side effects if it came down to either taking the shots or not.
i might be a bit more cautious or think about it more if ive had a history or some kind of history of health issues though.

Regardless people should be aware of ANY possible side effects.

My second shot is due on Saturday, I hope it's not as bad (or worse) than what my first shot did...Oh well, yolo.

[AllexxisF1]

That report still needs more review, but the article states that the vaccine is still doing its job.

It's keeping you out of the hospital.

My Aunt (mom's sister) is in the hospital with COVID in Jacksonville. Early 70's, her comorbidities: obese, diabetes, and a Conservative.

[Sasquach]

Regardless people should be aware of ANY possible side effects.

My second shot is due on Saturday, I hope it's not as bad (or worse) than what my first shot did...Oh well, yolo.

Oh definitely, i just dont think we need to raise the panic flag every time a new side effect case pops up. It just makes it sound worse than it really is.

Some people feel the second shot more, some people felt the first shot more.

My arm was sore for a bit longer after the second shot than the first. But that's the extent of the side effects i got from the pfizer.

[acroig]

My Aunt (mom's sister) is in the hospital with COVID in Jacksonville. Early 70's, her comorbidities: obese, diabetes, and a Conservative.

That's a bad diagnosis!

[xCLAVEx]

That's a bad diagnosis!

It's also a political one...

[AllexxisF1]

It's also a political one...

It was her political ideology and obedience to it that has her now in the hospital.

Life is politics. To act like it's not is ridiculous.

[xCLAVEx]

It was her political ideology and obedience to it that has her now in the hospital.

Life is politics. To act like it's not is ridiculous.

But we're trying to keep that junk out of this thread.

[Nunz]

It was her political ideology and obedience to it that has her now in the hospital.

Life is politics. To act like it's not is ridiculous.

So take it to the P&R thread .. pretty simple.

[Lazy8s]

It was her political ideology and obedience to it that has her now in the hospital.

Life is politics. To act like it's not is ridiculous.

To think it is is what's ridiculous. You know where P&R is.

[AllexxisF1]

[acroig]

It's also a political one...

You need to report things so the section Mod can review.....

AllexxisF1, this is not the first time this is pointed out to you so please start cooperating....

[AllexxisF1]

[acroig]

[AllexxisF1]

So my Aunt made the local news.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...s-in-hospital/

[Java Cool Dude]

So my Aunt made the local news.

https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/...s-in-hospital/

"Noble reason", I didn't know we had shortage of vaccines in the States

[cbsboyer]

How come this thing is mutating like crazy?
I dont hear about any other viruses mutating constantly like this....except the flu somewhat...but i dont think that is nearly as deadly to begin with so that doesnt matter.

I suspect that if we had today's genomic sequencing and testing capability back in 1918-1920, the influenza pandemic would probably look pretty similar. We just weren't able to see it then.

Viruses mutate - it's what they do to survive, and since we literally have tens of millions of active cases worldwide on any given day, any selective pressure that favours specific traits will be amplified. Shorter incubation period with heavier viral load (i.e. Delta variant) spreads it more easily? Well, that gets selected for. More likely to at least partially sidestep the widely available vaccines? That gets selected for too. Lasts longer in the environment to get around a mask? Probably on it's way.

This is going to be a years-long fight.

[Greasy]

I think my wife might have it. She has a rash now. Went to the Dermatologist today, and she had no idea what it was. Took a sample to have tested.

Our state labs are backed up, so unless she has any other symptoms, no bother getting tested since she won't get results for two weeks, aside from a rapid test.

We're all vaccinated. I feel 100%, so do the kids.

[Greasy]

I suspect that if we had today's genomic sequencing and testing capability back in 1918-1920, the influenza pandemic would probably look pretty similar. We just weren't able to see it then.

Viruses mutate - it's what they do to survive, and since we literally have tens of millions of active cases worldwide on any given day, any selective pressure that favours specific traits will be amplified. Shorter incubation period with heavier viral load (i.e. Delta variant) spreads it more easily? Well, that gets selected for. More likely to at least partially sidestep the widely available vaccines? That gets selected for too. Lasts longer in the environment to get around a mask? Probably on it's way.

This is going to be a years-long fight.

Not all do, but the corona class virus always seem to find a way. Same with HIV, that mofo will mutate like crazy in the same host. That's why we still haven't found a vaccine for it.

[Java Cool Dude]

More garbage people being garbage https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1902326.html

[Greasy]

More garbage people being garbage https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1902326.html

We've lost our way. Maybe the best thing old Joe did was let the taliban take over again. Next attack on us might bring everyone together again. We seem content on destroying ourselves.

I'm not even trying to go PR with this. It's just true.

So sad.

[AllexxisF1]

"Noble reason", I didn't know we had shortage of vaccines in the States

*My Mom - "She's lying through her teeth".

[Java Cool Dude]

We've lost our way. Maybe the best thing old Joe did was let the taliban take over again. Next attack on us might bring everyone together again. We seem content on destroying ourselves.

I'm not even trying to go PR with this. It's just true.

So sad.

600k+ dead Americans and weekly mass shootings couldn't bring us together, nothing else will.

[Crawdaddy79]

600k+ dead Americans and weekly mass shootings couldn't bring us together, nothing else will.

If close relatives get hospitalized and one is callous about it, it's a good sign we're on the wrong path.

[Greasy]

600k+ dead Americans and weekly mass shootings couldn't bring us together, nothing else will.

See, you have the "it's just a cold", and the "black on black crime" all in one statement. The only thing that seems to bring this country together is an attack from a foreign foe. Seems like they're setting up for that now.

[koralis]

Haven't read the full paper yet, just the summary: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...795v1.full.pdf

The degree of highly-educated hesitancy is higher than I'd have thought, but does explain some things. The paper cites 50% of the reasons given to be about fear of unintended side effects, lack of testing, etc. They're too smart for they're own good.

Maybe once the government expresses confidence in the vaccines the PhDs of the world will get on board.

https://unherd.com/thepost/the-most-vaccine-hesitant-education-group-of-all-phds/

But according to a new paper by researchers from Carnegie Mellon University and the University of Pittsburgh, this does not paint the full picture. The researchers analysed more than 5 million survey responses by a range of different demographic details, and classed those people who would “probably” or “definitely” not choose to get vaccinated as “vaccine hesitant.”

In some respects the findings are as predicted — for example the paper finds that there is a strong correlation between counties with higher Trump support in the 2020 presidential election and higher hesitancy in the period January 2021 — May 2021.

But more surprising is the breakdown in vaccine hesitancy by level of education. It finds that the association between hesitancy and education level follows a U-shaped curve with the highest hesitancy among those least and most educated. People with a master’s degree had the least hesitancy, and the highest hesitancy was among those holding a Ph.D.

What’s more, the paper found that in the first five months of 2021, the largest decrease in hesitancy was among the least educated — those with a high school education or less. Meanwhile, hesitancy held constant in the most educated group; by May, those with Ph.Ds were the most hesitant group.

So not only are the most educated people most sceptical of taking the Covid vaccine, they are also the least likely the change their minds about it…

[Greasy]

NC just reported numbers that are on par with the height of this thing. Work delayed going back to the office, and people are masking up again on their own. I busted out the N95 masks I bought yesterday for my trip to home depot.

The governor is hesitant to enforce any mandates for some reason. We now have almost 2500 people in the hospital with it, and more coming daily.

[acroig]

NC just reported numbers that are on par with the height of this thing. Work delayed going back to the office, and people are masking up again on their own. I busted out the N95 masks I bought yesterday for my trip to home depot.

The governor is hesitant to enforce any mandates for some reason. We now have almost 2500 people in the hospital with it, and more coming daily.

Yeah, same here. Masking up just in case, don't need any variant to get to me.

[Greasy]

The difference between these new masks I have and that cloth thing I was wearing is huge. It's noticeably harder to breathe while wearing this thing. I put it on when I got out of my truck, and the walk into the store was brutal. I couldn't imagine wearing one of these all day. That would suck!

[Jay20016]

The difference between these new masks I have and that cloth thing I was wearing is huge. It's noticeably harder to breathe while wearing this thing. I put it on when I got out of my truck, and the walk into the store was brutal. I couldn't imagine wearing one of these all day. That would suck!

And yet a lot of healthcare workers have been wearing them since before March of 2020 in addition to other forms of PPE day in, day out.

[Greasy]

And yet a lot of healthcare workers have been wearing them since before March of 2020 in addition to other forms of PPE day in, day out.

Was just talking to my wife about that. Simply brutal.

[dodger]

https://abc13.com/dallas-county-judge-clay-jenkins-covid19-pediatric-icu-beds-texas-zero-mask-mandate/10951287/

"That means if your child's in a car wreck, if your child has a congenital heart defect or something and needs an ICU bed, or more likely if they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don't have one. Your child will wait for another child to die," Jenkins said. "Your child will just not get on the ventilator, your child will be CareFlighted to Temple or Oklahoma City or wherever we can find them a bed, but they won't be getting one here unless one clears."

Oh wow so now we might be sending kids Andino's way instead of the other way around. Will spare the rest of the article as it gets political.

[Greasy]

That's a scary situation right there.

[acroig]

That's a scary situation right there.

[Java Cool Dude]

https://abc13.com/dallas-county-judg...date/10951287/

"That means if your child's in a car wreck, if your child has a congenital heart defect or something and needs an ICU bed, or more likely if they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don't have one. Your child will wait for another child to die," Jenkins said. "Your child will just not get on the ventilator, your child will be CareFlighted to Temple or Oklahoma City or wherever we can find them a bed, but they won't be getting one here unless one clears."

Oh wow so now we might be sending kids Andino's way instead of the other way around. Will spare the rest of the article as it gets political.

The price of freedumb, amirite?
But seriously what's standing in the way of allowing mask mandates back on? My theory is that a couple of highly controversial governors are waiting for this wave to die down on its own (like it did in India, and to lesser degree, the UK) and then who's the hero who preserved your freedoms and rightfully earned your vote?

[Greasy]

It will die down alright. Once it's infected everyone, yes...