Official Thread: Coronavirus "COVID-19"

[Athena]

It's in 70 countries with 3,000 dead.

It's a pandemic. The only reason why they haven't labeled it as such is they pulled to the trigger too early for Ebola, and don't want to make the same mistake twice.

It will be classified within a couple of weeks.

That number is from the beginning so over 3 months.

The normal flu/pneumonia killed over twice that number in the US alone in the just the last 2 months. John Hopkins numbers put it just over 8K. Is that a pandemic?



What makes Covid scary is when you put an infected person in a small room with other people the infection rate is super high. But the death rate from it is less than a 1/3 that of the normal flu death rates.

Unless your old (70+), a smoker (drugs) or have preexisting lung issues (like me) you will prob walk away with a mild cold and not even notice.

This is not yet close to a pandemic. I will save my panic till then. That said I am slowly stocking my shelves with food stuffs and supplies.

If FEMA pulls the trigger it is best to be prudent. But I will do so with the facts and my head on straight.

[AllexxisF1]

But the death rate from it is less than a 1/3 that of the normal flu death rates.

According to who?

All the data suggests that the mortality rate is a tick above seasonal influenza to 2%.

[NWR_Midnight]

According to who?

All the data suggests that the mortality rate is a tick above seasonal influenza to 2%.

Currently The Corronavirus has a death rate of over 3% (3.4% as of right now, it was 3.3% last week) The seasonal flu has a death rate of < .1% (some data shows it to be .12% to .13%estimated) There was an unusually high flu death rate in 1918 of 2%, but that is still 1+% below the Corronavirus death rate.

So, I hope you understand, I am having a hard time grasping how this equals a tick above the seasonal flu.

[AllexxisF1]

Which country Mate? The mortality rate is a moving needle dependant on the quality of care given to the patient.

More people are dying in Iran and much less in South Korea.

The percentage that matters is the one that determines how many infected will require ICU levels of care.

[pax]

1918 is very difficult to gauge. Demographics wasnt well established and we literally lost history for a few months as the bug rampaged. Estimates for deaths vary wildly from 50 to 250 million. Up to 5% death rate but like for coronavirus there is a difference between the infection rate of those who develop symptoms and exposure rates where people can defeat the bug out right to simply being carriers but not get sick.

It may be months or years before we figure this out. Short of testing everyone itll be a guesstimate at best.

[pax]

Which country Mate? The mortality rate is a moving needle dependant on the quality of care given to the patient.

More people are dying in Iran and much less in South Korea.

The percentage that matters is the one that determines how many infected will require ICU levels of care.

If most of the people infected only need IV fluid intake for 2-3 days it shouldnt be an issue as that can be done to masses of people but if you need respirators...

[DorXtar]

1918 is very difficult to gauge. Demographics wasnt well established and we literally lost history for a few months as the bug rampaged. Estimates for deaths vary wildly from 50 to 250 million. Up to 5% death rate but like for coronavirus there is a difference between the infection rate of those who develop symptoms and exposure rates where people can defeat the bug out right to simply being carriers but not get sick.

It may be months or years before we figure this out. Short of testing everyone itll be a guesstimate at best.

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[Shapeshifter]

CDC has now changed how they report things. I guess to make the administration look better.


Again BC has done more tests then all of the USA combined. But now they can hide those numbers.

Up to 6 deaths now.

[Trunks0]

Which country Mate? The mortality rate is a moving needle dependant on the quality of care given to the patient.

More people are dying in Iran and much less in South Korea.

The percentage that matters is the one that determines how many infected will require ICU levels of care.

Just the avg at this point globally. COVID-19 is a far more deadly virus than the typical Flu most of people get a Vaccine shot for.

All things equal without a vaccine(ie you got sick) your looking at the common flu having a global death rate around 0.1. Where at COVID-19 is hitting a global avg around 3.0. That's a 3000&#37; increase in the death rate.

But! COVID-19 hasn't hit communal spread and IS NOT as commonly spread as the common flu globally yet. Which is why it can't be categorized as a Pandemic yet and why it hasn't killed as many people as the common Flu. IF COVID-19 breaks out, goes communal and hits the commonality of the Flu planet wide(IE Pandemic). Your looking at a avg death rate around 3000% higher than regular Flu everywhere as we do not have a Vaccine.

[pax]

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Yep zinc and Vit D have been the goto supplements for winter months. I take em daily tho you can take Vit D weekly at 10 000 IU. I take 2000 IU daily...

[curio]

Everybody at R3D gets plenty of vitamin D - trust me

[Cyko]

Everybody at R3D gets plenty of vitamin D - trust me

This man knows

[Dave]

lol...I just had my annual physical on Friday. Guess who has a 12 week prescription for 50,000 IU of Vitamin D3?

[Cyko]

lol...I just had my annual physical on Friday. Guess who has a 12 week prescription for 50,000 IU of Vitamin D3?

That’s a lotta D. The thirst is real

[Lazy8s]

It's in Massachusetts now.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/massach...unty/31195169#

I'll stick with my multi-vitamin

[NWR_Midnight]

Which country Mate? The mortality rate is a moving needle dependant on the quality of care given to the patient.

More people are dying in Iran and much less in South Korea.

The percentage that matters is the one that determines how many infected will require ICU levels of care.

I was giving you the global death rate, but since we live in the United states, lets use that one. The United states current death rate of the corona virus is 5.8&#37;. (we have 102 reported nation wide with 6 deaths). It is 14% death rate if you use the CDC's total cases of 43.

CDC has now changed how they report things. I guess to make the administration look better.


Again BC has done more tests then all of the USA combined. But now they can hide those numbers.

Up to 6 deaths now.

They aren't even counting those from the Wuhan, China or
Diamond Princess Cruise Ship that Repatriated from the United states.

[Lazy8s]

Washington state is up to 6 deaths now?

https://q13fox.com/2020/03/02/king-c...ding-5-deaths/

[A2597]

The Vietnamese health department has issued the following instructions.
(In a highly catchy tune!)

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[AllexxisF1]

Good morning Gents.

Two new confirmed cases in Atlanta, and one more in NY - a 50-year-old man from Westchester that commuted into Manhattan. Fed just cut rates again by half a percent.

The sixth person dies of coronavirus in Snohomish County, WA; no word on their age. The other 5 were all elderly residents in a long-term care home.

[A2597]

That puts the nearest case less than two hours from me.
Only concern is my wife is pregnant. Fever + pregnancy is not a good thing, hoping we stay healthy here...

[Athena]

The other 5 were all elderly residents in a long-term care home.

Sounds like us. we are all doomed!!

[Lazy8s]

I'm posting an article from Politico about Dr Anthony Fauci. I believe he's the voice Americans ought to be listening to over pretty much anyone else.

That said, there is content that's political in nature. I'm only posting it here for views from an expert who has handled multiple outbreaks over multiple admins.

Please leave the political comments out of it here in off topic. There's a good bit to discuss aside from the politics, such as who is really trying to get a response together on this thing behind the scenes.

If mods think it needs to go to P&R please do.

Thanks guys

https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

[Shapeshifter]

3.4&#37; of confirmed cases have died according to the WHO

[AllexxisF1]

Dr. Cambell's daily update.

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[shrike126]

Renamed the thread title since it has an official name.

[shrike126]

So, what's the latest on how bad it is?

“If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases, the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%,” wrote Fauci and his colleagues in the letter.

Assuming this is correct, that means the health consequences of COVID-19 are more akin to severe seasonal influenza, which is associated with a 0.1 percent death rate, or the pandemic influenza outbreaks of 1957 and 1968, according to Fauci et al. These figures are mercifully much lower than the fatality rates of two other notorious coronaviruses, namely SARS (death rate between 9 and 10 percent) and MERS (death rate of 36 percent), according to research published in Nature Reviews Microbiology in 2016.

These are all preliminary estimates, and much still needs to be learned about SARS-CoV-2 and how it works. Recent figures put out by China’s Center for Disease Control in Beijing presented a fatality rate for COVID-19 at 2.3 percent. This is probably way too high, for the reasons previously mentioned, but it’s alarming nonetheless. This rate was based on 44,672 cases reported as of February 11, 2020.

Now, to claim that people have X-percent chance of dying from a disease is a rather blunt and not entirely informative statement, as this rate applies to the total infected population. Statistics from China CDC are providing a more nuanced look at the disease and who’s most at risk.

Men appear to be more at risk of both contracting and dying from COVID-19; China CDC stats show that 2.8 percent of males have died from the disease, compared to 1.7 percent of females. It’s not immediately clear why this should be the case, but many sociological and cultural factors could explain why men might be more prone to contracting the disease (e.g. perhaps more men in China travel for work).

That said, the most significant risk factor for dying from COVID-19 is age. According to China CDC, people above the age of 80 have a 14.8 percent chance of dying from the disease; people in their 70s, 8 percent; people in their 60s, 3.6 percent; and people in their 50s, 1.3 percent. Once below this age range, the risk of dying drops to between 0.2 and 0.4 percent. Again, these figures could be inflated due to the fact that a plethora of mild cases likely aren’t reported.

In addition to age, pre-existing medical conditions are also a major contributor to death from the disease. COVID-19 patients who also had cardiovascular disease had a 10.5 percent chance of death; diabetes, 7.3 percent; chronic respiratory disease, 6.3 percent; hypertension, 6 percent; and any form of cancer, 5.6 percent, according to China CDC stats. Clearly, advanced age plus any of these conditions are a dangerous combination.

Other research published in the NEJM last week describes the “early transmission dynamics” of the disease. This study, co-authored by Qun Li from the China CDC, looked at the first 425 cases reported in Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the epidemic. This research included cases from December to January 22, 2020. The figures provided in this paper are important, but again, they need to be treated with caution given that this data was collected during the earliest stages of the outbreak.

At a median age of 59 years, the patients were a bit older than those reported elsewhere. Of these patients, 56 percent were male. There were no reports of children under the age of 15 with the disease. The reason is that “children might be less likely to become infected or, if infected, may show milder symptoms, and either of these situations would account for underrepresentation in the confirmed case count,” according to the authors. If this is indeed the case, that means scientists don’t possess a full picture of the current outbreak, at least according to this limited sample.

The incubation period of the disease is around five days but can be as long as 12 days in some cases, according to the Li study. Importantly, this evidence supports the 14-day quarantine period for exposed individuals.

Source: https://gizmodo.com/how-deadly-is-covid-19-1842059407

[Shapeshifter]

to give an idea how bad things must truly be in Iran

https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-re...us-11583244155

Over 54,000 prisoners being released to try and stop it from spreading in the prisons.

[bill dennison]

to give an idea how bad things must truly be in Iran

https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-re...us-11583244155

Over 54,000 prisoners being released to try and stop it from spreading in the prisons.

54,000 possibly infected people looking to flee Iran

[Nunz]

I like this Fauci guy.

[NWR_Midnight]

US now has 9 deaths (All in Washington)......

[nutcrackr]

CDC no longer reporting number of cases?

54k prisoners being released... I knew it was bad in Iran but that sounds like they're running out of solutions.

[NWR_Midnight]

CDC no longer reporting number of cases?

54k prisoners being released... I knew it was bad in Iran but that sounds like they're running out of solutions.

Hard to keep up to date when all information has to be approved first.

[KAC]

Some idiot dude came back from JP and was coughing like a sick person. Everybody is paranoid. I closed off the whole floor and gave people WFH for today. Dumbasses.

[Shapeshifter]

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/03/rep...eport_partner/

Republicans blocking coronavirus bill that limits how much drugmakers can charge for vaccine: report

On Tuesday, Politico reported that GOP lawmakers are holding up a bipartisan emergency funding bill to provide treatment and research for coronavirus.

The main reason? They object to a provision that prevents drug manufacturers from overcharging the government for any vaccines or other treatment.

[Seyiji]

https://www.salon.com/2020/03/03/rep...eport_partner/

Republicans blocking coronavirus bill that limits how much drugmakers can charge for vaccine: report

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[Vanz_007]

I haven't been following too closely, thinking of booking a vacation to Florida in about 4 weeks, should I postpone?

We're getting kinda weird emails at work, like it's okay to work from home for the next 6 days, try not to touch people, cover your cough, wash your hands more ...etc

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[bill dennison]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51731422

[globalist]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51731422

Man you'll stop -ing when it's YOUR family not able to wipe their behinds!

[bill dennison]

Man you'll stop -ing when it's YOUR family not able to wipe their behinds!

https://www.amazon.com/Achiotely-Han...3310255&sr=8-9


or

http://toiletpaper.umwblogs.org/history/


or

[nutcrackr]

Another 586 cases in Iran and 15 deaths

2922 infected and 92 deaths