Official Thread: Coronavirus "COVID-19"

[Shapeshifter]

Iran closing the border with Iraq could have more to do with US/Iran tensions than coronavirus.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...211643953.html

FARS: Cinemas and art events closed for a week in Iran

All cinemas and art events across Iran will be closed for one week to try and stop the spread of the coronavirus in the country, semi-official news agency FARS reported.
Iranian officials mull restrictions on holy sites

Iran's Hajj Pilgrimage Organization has reportedly cancelled all trips for pilgrims travelling to Iraq in a bid to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, Al Jazeera's Dorse Jabbari said while reporting from the Iranian capital, Tehran.

She added that Iranian officials have decided to close all of Iran's five land borders with Iraq and are mulling taking action to restrict visits to holy shrines in Qom - where the virus has killed two people - and other nearby places.
Iran closes schools in two cities: State TV

Iran will close schools, universities and educational centres in two central cities to prevent the spread of coronavirus, state TV reported.

It said the shutdown would begin on Sunday in and last two days in Qom - where two people have died from the virus - and a week in Arak.

[Shapeshifter]

https://news.yahoo.com/with-informat...173612656.html

With information from China scarce, U.S. spies enlisted to track coronavirus

“China’s behavior causes the intelligence community to get involved,” said one of those sources, a former intelligence official. “Because no data means spying.”

The former official indicated that the most important issue being tracked is the Chinese leadership plans for what is known as “continuity of operations,” meaning the ability for the government to maintain its basic functions during an unprecedented crisis, such as nuclear war or natural disaster.

In China, this might involve senior leaders leaving the country or seeking safety in shelters, “like U.S. doomsday bunkers,” said the source. The intel community, said the source, is seeing some signs Chinese officials are making those kinds of contingency plans, indicating the potential level of concern within Beijing.

[bill dennison]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...211643953.html

US says Russia is behind disinformation campaign
Thousands of Russian-linked social media accounts have launched a coordinated effort to spread alarm about the coronavirus, disrupting global efforts to combat the epidemic, US officials told AFP news agency.

False personas are being used on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to advance Russian talking points and conspiracies, including suggesting that the CIA is behind the virus that has claimed more than 2,300 lives, mostly in China.

"Russia's intent is to sow discord and undermine US institutions and alliances from within, including through covert and coercive malign influence campaigns," said Philip Reeker, the acting assistant secretary of state for Europe and Eurasia.

"By spreading disinformation about coronavirus, Russian malign actors are once again choosing to threaten public safety by distracting the global health response," he said.

maybe we should dump the sick in Russia

[Shapeshifter]

Russia has a history of doing that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infektion

[bill dennison]

Don’t buy China’s story: The coronavirus may have leaked from a lab

https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-b...ed-from-a-lab/

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https://nypost.com/2020/02/22/dont-b...ed-from-a-lab/

Sounds like russian disinformation.

[bill dennison]

Sounds like russian disinformation.

maybe


but if i get sick I'm going to tell the hospital when they send the bill to bill China

[bill dennison]

Italy rushes to contain Europe’s first major virus outbreak

CODOGNO, Italy (AP) — Italy scrambled Sunday to check the spread of Europe’s first major outbreak of the new viral disease amid rapidly rising numbers of infections and a third death, calling off the popular Venice Carnival, scrapping major league soccer matches in the stricken area and shuttering theaters, including Milan’s legendary La Scala.

Concern was also on the rise in neighboring Austria, which halted all rail traffic to and from Italy for several hours after suspicion that a train at its southern border with Italy had two passengers possibly infected with the virus on board, authorities said. Austria’s interior ministry said it had been informed by Italy’s railway company that two passengers had fever and stopped the train at the Brenner crossing before it could enter Austria.

However, just before midnight Austria’s Federal Railways announced on Twitter the ban had been lifted. Austrian Interior Minister Karl Nehammer said the two people suspected of being infected with the virus on the Eurocity 86 train from Venice to Munich had tested negative and the train would be allowed to continue on its way, according to the ORF broadcast network.

The decision to call off Venice Carnival was announced by Veneto regional Gov. Luca Zaia as the number of confirmed virus cases soared to 152, the largest number outside Asia.

https://apnews.com/bda63e372d4d0e5f393744e2cff6fdf1

More than 50,000 Italians living in 10 communities are literally locked down, facing jail sentences and fines if they leave their homes, thanks to the largest outbreak outside Asia.

On Sunday morning, the regional governor of Lombardy, Attilo Fontana, confirmed that 89 people have now tested positive for the virus and a much larger but unspecified number are referred to as suspect cases.

The second hotspot is in the Veneto region, near Venice, which is celebrating Carnevale to somewhat diminished crowds. Twelve people in the region have tested positive even though none of them has ever been to mainland China or, as far as is known at this point, been in contact with any obvious vectors. Eight Chinese residents, two of whom came back from Wuhan through via Germany, are under quarantine—but they have not tested positive. It is yet unclear if that cluster will grow.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/corona...t-be-contained


not good

[Lazy8s]

I don't know how reputable news-medical.net is, but...

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...to-market.aspx

Health officials believe that the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), which causes the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), originated from wild animals sold in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan City, which is home to 11 million residents.

Now, a team of scientists from Xishuangbanna Tropical Botanical Garden of Chinese Academy of Sciences, South China Agricultural University, and Chinese Institute for Brain Research wrote in a paper published on ChinaXiv, about an alternative source of the coronavirus that is currently spreading across the globe.

The scientists say they have found genomic evidence that the seafood market is not the actual source of the outbreak. Instead, they point the source of the virus outbreak to a laboratory that studies potent viruses.

The Wuhan Virology Institute researches some of the world's most dangerous pathogens. It is China's first Biosafety Level 4 laboratory, the highest security level needed to isolate dangerous biological agents in an enclosed facility.

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I don't know how reputable news-medical.net is, but...

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...to-market.aspx

If it came from a Lab I doubt they'd admit it.

[Munkus]

I don't know how reputable news-medical.net is, but...

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...to-market.aspx

So it IS Captain Trips! I knew it!

[Lazy8s]

If it came from a Lab I doubt they'd admit it.

Yeah I can't see them owning it - neither would the US for that matter, if it were us lol.

[Lazy8s]

So it IS Captain Trips! I knew it!

Know what's weird? I'm fighting off what feels like the flu and i keep getting the strangest urges to act like a zombie

[metroidfox]

The death rate of this Wuhan virus is about 2-3%.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51540981


For a frame of reference, the flu's is 12%-13%.


If only we treated the flu with this much care.

[GSGRUNT]

...


For a frame of reference, the flu's is 12%-13%.


....

link?

[Lazy8s]

The death rate of this Wuhan virus is about 2-3%.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51540981


For a frame of reference, the flu's is 12%-13%.


If only we treated the flu with this much care.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2

[AllexxisF1]

Surprising outbreak in northern Italy since Friday. What is scary, is that they haven't found patient zero yet. So far 216 confirmed cases with 6 deaths. All of which had underlying health conditions.

With this outbreak and now Iran, nature always seems to find a way to break-out.

No cause for alarm yet for us here in the U.S. but I always like taking a stepped approach for disaster. First to be ready and second not to look like a loon to the wife.

First step, I think it's time for a big bulk shop at Costco. Maybe pick up three bags of charcoal for summer bbq now. Re-stock medicines, etc.

Best to get this stuff now, because ***if*** there is a small outbreak in big cities like NY and LA, the panic that will set in, will have the stores empty in hours.

The panic in this case will be much worse than the disease itself.

[Munkus]

Dow down over 1000 on fears about the corona virus spreading outside China.

Outbreaks in Iran, Italy, and South Korea now too. Crazy stuff. I like Allexxis's idea. Time to start stocking up.

[metroidfox]

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2

I had found figures from Canada, but realised that it was actually 12% of hospitalisations result in death. Either way, both sets of figures are greater than this current viruses'.

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Dow down over 1000 on fears about the corona virus spreading outside China.

Outbreaks in Iran, Italy, and South Korea now too. Crazy stuff. I like Allexxis's idea. Time to start stocking up.

What kind of things would you stock-up on? Cold med, tissue and hand soap?

[DaJMasta]

What kind of things would you stock-up on? Cold med, tissue and hand soap?

There was already a rush on masks, but honestly it's one of the ones that make sense.




For the hard hit places there are restrictions on public gathering, so it may be trickier than normal to get food - but if they actually restrict to that point, they sort of have to give out rations.

People like to overreact to perceived threats, cue preppers making underground clean-bunkers

[NWR_Midnight]

The death rate of this Wuhan virus is about 2-3%.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51540981


For a frame of reference, the flu's is 12%-13%.


If only we treated the flu with this much care.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2

Uh, no! Death rate of the flu is .12 to .13% not 12 to 13%. (my second link shows < 0.1% for the flu)

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...fatality_rates

[Greasy]

We need that global warming to kick in right about now, and make it summer.

History books in 20 years. "World global financial collapse caused by Chinese wet market". Also 20 years in the future in China, "you want live bat with your room temp fish?"

As for prep, maybe a sword? Seemed to work well in the walking dead. Never runs out of ammo...

[DaJMasta]

As for prep, maybe a sword? Seemed to work well in the walking dead. Never runs out of ammo...

Doesn't do much against a stray cough, though

[pax]

If they cared enough they would pump 10-20 billion into a more rapid vaccine development process.

But they arent. Couple items of note recently found out about the virus its incubation period is longer than 14 days which was used for quarantine. one patient tested positive only developed symptoms 27 days later.

And we are pretty sure now that those who are asymptomatic are also contagious.

This guarantees this thing is widespread now.

[Greasy]

Doesn't do much against a stray cough, though

Think bigger like zombie Apocalypse.

[0091/2]

There was already a rush on masks, but honestly it's one of the ones that make sense.




For the hard hit places there are restrictions on public gathering, so it may be trickier than normal to get food - but if they actually restrict to that point, they sort of have to give out rations.

People like to overreact to perceived threats, cue preppers making underground clean-bunkers

I want to be over ready. Is it the right time to stock up this? or Will the price go up later?

[nutcrackr]

Italy going into lockdown must be pretty scary for the residents. The long incubation is really going to make the issue a lot worse. This could shut down the world economy for a few months if it gets loose.

[bill dennison]

Italy going into lockdown must be pretty scary for the residents. The long incubation is really going to make the issue a lot worse. This could shut down the world economy for a few months if it gets loose.

could shut my economy if it gets here

hello visa mastercard i got the plague from a customer so your payments will have to wait
or send the bill to china they made this ****



how the hell do you work on peoples houses with this running rampant


so tell me what is your AC doing



yea that will be fun at 115f

[DaJMasta]

I want to be over ready. Is it the right time to stock up this? or Will the price go up later?

Ships in 105 business days, seems we're too late

[Seyiji]

I want to be over ready. Is it the right time to stock up this? or Will the price go up later?

I've got a rear entry I could sell ya

[AllexxisF1]

The Wife and I agreed and came up with an expanded monthly Costco buy. Instead of buying for one month, we'll buy for two.

The guidelines we gave ourselves is the food we buy is what we would normally eat. So if this does peter out, we just keep on moving with our normal diets.

Like 100lb sack of rice, crackers, peanut butter, Gatorade, nuts, canned fruits/ham/veggies, tuna, pasta, pasta sauce, etc. Large garbage bags and tarp.

Since I bbq lots in the summer, I might as well buy three bags of charcoal now, when it's even cheaper.

Here's my rough game plan and decision barriers I'm giving myself. Still trying to figure things out. Just taking it slow and steady.

Step 1 (completed a month ago)
Buy N95 masks. <- New this would sell out regardless.

Step 2
Buy two months' worth of food Costco. Buy normal medicines (need to refill anyway).

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Decision Barrier (Small outbreak major U.S. city)
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Buy one or two months' worth of food at Costco.
Start car-gas 1/2 rule. When the tanks get to 1/2, we fill them back up.

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Decision Barrier (Widespread outbreaks in other parts of the country)
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TBD

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Decision Barrier (Small outbreak in Virginia/DC Metro area)
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Take kids out of school.
Work from home.

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Decision Barrier (major outbreak in Virginia/DC Metro area)
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[Athena]

My work place will require me to come in anyways so me and my family are screwed no matter what. Unless the government shuts down everything for a whole month. I do have the ability to work from home in case of viral outbreak. They just wont let me. Which makes me wonder why we bought all the equipment and have it in the policy for the FDIC that I can. O_o

[Shapeshifter]

CDC saying it's not a mater of If but when it starts to spread.

That now is the time for businesses, hospitals and communities/schools to begin to prepare.

Disruption to everyday life might be severe," says @DrNancyM_CDC. She said she told her children this morning, "While I didn't think they were at risk right now, we as a family ought to be preparing for significant disruption to our lives."

[andino]

Step 2
Buy two months' worth of food Costco. Buy normal medicines (need to refill anyway).

https://www.costco.com/all-emergency-food.html

Stuff is selling out quick.

[Shapeshifter]

Both the CDC and Health Canada have now stated to prepare for a pandemic.

https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...virus-pandemic


Canadians being told to prepare for a possible novel coronavirus pandemic

"It looks like it is going to be more and more difficult to contain this virus and it may well evolve into a pandemic."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-virus-update

CDC Tells Americans to Start Readying for Outbreak

[kytprice]

My work place will require me to come in anyways so me and my family are screwed no matter what. Unless the government shuts down everything for a whole month. I do have the ability to work from home in case of viral outbreak. They just wont let me. Which makes me wonder why we bought all the equipment and have it in the policy for the FDIC that I can. O_o

Sorry but sometimes you have to say to hell with your workplace. You obviously know this. But, if things get THAT bad family has to come first. Extreme situation of course.

[kytprice]

I'm fortunate that I live in a isolated rural environment. Storm shelter the whole nine yards. After reading the updates in this thread we'll be stocking up on bottled water, canned food, dried food. Hope there's no Corona zombies.

[Sasquach]

Im just gonna take it like a man, beat the damn thing and become immune.

Cant beat em, join em...them beat em!

[shrike126]

So, this is bad...

The CDC confirmed 53 cases in the US on Monday evening. A majority of these cases came from the Diamond Princess cruise liner that was recently quarantined off the coast of Japan after an outbreak on the ship. Of the 53 people, 36 of these cases are credited to the cruise ship.

There are a total of more than 80,410 cases worldwide and an estimated 2,711 deaths from the virus.

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9359196.html

The numbers:

• 80,410 cases
• 2,711 deaths

That is a 3.3% death rate.

For comparison, the worst pandemic in the past century was the Spanish flu of 1918.

The 1918 influenza pandemic (January 1918 – December 1920; colloquially known as Spanish flu) was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic, the first of the two pandemics involving H1N1 influenza virus, with the second being the swine flu in 2009.[1] It infected 500 million people around the world,[2] or about 27% of the then world population of between 1.8 and 1.9 billion, including people on remote Pacific islands and in the Arctic. The death toll is estimated to have been 40 million to 50 million, and possibly as high as 100 million, making it one of the deadliest epidemics in human history.[3][4] Historical and epidemiological data are inadequate to identify with certainty the pandemic's geographic origin.[2]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

So if this COVID-19 virus in our globally connected world (con), with better advances in sanitation & awareness (pro) reaches 1918 Spanish flu levels of transmission, we might see around 500M infected. Judging by the 3% fatality rate so far, that many infected globally suggests that we might lose 15,000,000 people before this is done.