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    Originally posted by JZL View Post
    I always liked the first one more. I'm curious if you're old enough to have seen both at theaters when first released.
    I was 9 when Alien came out, so I didn't get to see that until it came out on VHS. I was 16 when Aliens was in the theatre, and I saw it 3-4 times that year. Such an awesome movie. As far as I'm concerned, the Alien movie franchise ended with Aliens. Everything else is utter garbage.
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      Originally posted by Munkus View Post
      I was 9 when Alien came out, so I didn't get to see that until it came out on VHS. I was 16 when Aliens was in the theatre, and I saw it 3-4 times that year. Such an awesome movie. As far as I'm concerned, the Alien movie franchise ended with Aliens. Everything else is utter garbage.
      I wondered if one's preference might depend on when you saw them. Alien was so groundbreaking to me that Aliens didn't quite match up. Plus putting children in jeopardy is often viewed as a lazy plot device. However, in Aliens it set up the battle of the moms ending. Plus mech. Plus Paxton.

      OK, I changed my mind.

      Hmm. Changed it back.
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        Originally posted by JZL View Post
        I always liked the first one more. I'm curious if you're old enough to have seen both at theaters when first released.
        Alien came out in 1979. I came out in 1980.
        Originally posted by KAC
        To be honest I never even found doom 3 to be scary since I have a big dick since birth.

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          Originally posted by Munkus View Post
          I was 9 when Alien came out, so I didn't get to see that until it came out on VHS. I was 16 when Aliens was in the theatre, and I saw it 3-4 times that year. Such an awesome movie. As far as I'm concerned, the Alien movie franchise ended with Aliens. Everything else is utter garbage.
          Here's how I see the franchise:
          • Alien - Groundbreaking sci-fi horror film. Includes some flaws, especially in the last act, but overall very worthy of it's reputation.
          • Aliens - Strongest film in the franchise. Practically perfect sci-fi action. More cohesive overall than it's predecessor.
          • Alien 3 - Weakest film in the Quadrilogy. Disappointing follow-up, and not what anyone expected or wanted. Still interesting to watch through many years later though, as it has a distinct tone and flavor, and does some new and interesting things with the alien.
          • Alien Resurrection - Much lighter tone, reminds me of the Riddick films. Lots of intrigue and interesting plot twists... I think it's a fun film that doesn't always fit well with the rest of the series.

          • Prometheus - Fascinating first half, followed by a last act that devolves into nearly incomprehensible action/horror nonsense. Overall I think it's a good movie and I like it.
          • Alien Covenant - Bad movie overall, very little of interest to justify the film's existence. I don't know what Ridley Scott was thinking.

          • AVP & AVP2 - Bad films, may offer some dumb fun, but a truly tragic missed opportunity. Somehow they missed the bestest and most obvious AVP treatment that everyone wanted: Just remake Aliens but throw in a Predator, like in the comics.
          Originally posted by KAC
          To be honest I never even found doom 3 to be scary since I have a big dick since birth.

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            Originally posted by SubCog View Post
            Here's how I see the franchise:
            • Alien - Groundbreaking sci-fi horror film. Includes some flaws, especially in the last act, but overall very worthy of it's reputation.
            • Aliens - Strongest film in the franchise. Practically perfect sci-fi action. More cohesive overall than it's predecessor.
            • Alien 3 - Weakest film in the Quadrilogy. Disappointing follow-up, and not what anyone expected or wanted. Still interesting to watch through many years later though, as it has a distinct tone and flavor, and does some new and interesting things with the alien.
            • Alien Resurrection - Much lighter tone, reminds me of the Riddick films. Lots of intrigue and interesting plot twists... I think it's a fun film that doesn't always fit well with the rest of the series.

            • Prometheus - Fascinating first half, followed by a last act that devolves into nearly incomprehensible action/horror nonsense. Overall I think it's a good movie and I like it.
            • Alien Covenant - Bad movie overall, very little of interest to justify the film's existence. I don't know what Ridley Scott was thinking.

            • AVP & AVP2 - Bad films, may offer some dumb fun, but a truly tragic missed opportunity. Somehow they missed the bestest and most obvious AVP treatment that everyone wanted: Just remake Aliens but throw in a Predator, like in the comics.
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              Ya thats a good look at alienverse. But I have come to like Alien 3 over time. David Fincher is good even when they wont let him (studio).
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                Originally posted by KAC View Post
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                  Originally posted by JZL View Post
                  I wondered if one's preference might depend on when you saw them. Alien was so groundbreaking to me that Aliens didn't quite match up. Plus putting children in jeopardy is often viewed as a lazy plot device. However, in Aliens it set up the battle of the moms ending. Plus mech. Plus Paxton.

                  OK, I changed my mind.

                  Hmm. Changed it back.
                  Both are awesome for different things they do very well?

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                    Originally posted by SubCog View Post
                    Here's how I see the franchise:
                    • Alien - Groundbreaking sci-fi horror film. Includes some flaws, especially in the last act, but overall very worthy of it's reputation.
                    • Aliens - Strongest film in the franchise. Practically perfect sci-fi action. More cohesive overall than it's predecessor.
                    • Alien 3 - Weakest film in the Quadrilogy. Disappointing follow-up, and not what anyone expected or wanted. Still interesting to watch through many years later though, as it has a distinct tone and flavor, and does some new and interesting things with the alien.
                    • Alien Resurrection - Much lighter tone, reminds me of the Riddick films. Lots of intrigue and interesting plot twists... I think it's a fun film that doesn't always fit well with the rest of the series.

                    • Prometheus - Fascinating first half, followed by a last act that devolves into nearly incomprehensible action/horror nonsense. Overall I think it's a good movie and I like it.
                    • Alien Covenant - Bad movie overall, very little of interest to justify the film's existence. I don't know what Ridley Scott was thinking.

                    • AVP & AVP2 - Bad films, may offer some dumb fun, but a truly tragic missed opportunity. Somehow they missed the bestest and most obvious AVP treatment that everyone wanted: Just remake Aliens but throw in a Predator, like in the comics.
                    I'm a big fan of the series and I for the most part agree with your reviews.

                    I think I hold the first movie in a bit higher regard than you though. Could very possibly have nostalgic reasons for that however, and/or maybe it was just a more powerful film back then for the time and hasn't aged quite as well for newcomers. It was my favorite movie for a long time when I was a kid in the 80's. I certainly do not agree with your view of the final act of the movie being flawed. Always found it to be super intense and total edge of your seat excitement. **Spoilers for anyone that somehow hasn't seen this yet** I think it was also one of the first movies I ever saw where the monster came back after thinking it was dead. Was a total shocker to me back then and I still remember it being super scary.

                    Anyways for me I still struggle deciding which in the series I like the most, the first or second movie. Pretty much resigned to the fact they are ultimately different style films that can't really be compared equally. First one is more of a slow burn sci-fi horror/thriller, while the second is more a faster sci-fi action/thriller.

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                      Originally posted by acroig View Post
                      Both are awesome for different things they do very well?
                      Yes. It's not a contest, is it?
                      When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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                        Originally posted by acroig View Post
                        Both are awesome for different things they do very well?
                        Originally posted by JZL View Post
                        Yes. It's not a contest, is it?
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                          American Underdog

                          Kurt Warner story done well.
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                            Watched Antlers. Pretty good. The gore was realistic looking.

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                              Originally posted by Kain View Post
                              Watched Antlers. Pretty good. The gore was realistic looking.
                              The main kid actor was pretty good too.
                              The story he read in class "Once there were three bears..."
                              I have nothing witty to say.

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                                Originally posted by Fuku2 View Post
                                The main kid actor was pretty good too.
                                The story he read in class "Once there were three bears..."
                                Yeah, he was pretty good.

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                                  Don't Look Up. 8/10. Good movie. It doesn't become clear what the film is about until about half-way through, when some very clear political themes get fleshed out... it's very on the nose at that point. Very funny movie, but not necessarily in a laugh-out-loud kind of way. Still very clever and entertaining, great performances from a ton of actors. Maybe you don't want to recommend to any friends or family who like to wear red hats though? They won't find it funny.
                                  Originally posted by KAC
                                  To be honest I never even found doom 3 to be scary since I have a big dick since birth.

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                                    The Tender bar - 5/10

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                                      Red Notice.

                                      Mediocre.

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                                        Don’t Look Up

                                        Excellent

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                                          Originally posted by Fuku2 View Post
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                                          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.

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                                            Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                                            Don’t Look Up

                                            Excellent
                                            I didn't like it. 5/10

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                                              Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                              I didn't like it. 5/10
                                              It’s definitely not going to entertain everyone, but the characterizations of so many of the personality types we see today was hilarious imo.

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                                                  Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                                                  It’s definitely not going to entertain everyone, but the characterizations of so many of the personality types we see today was hilarious imo.
                                                  Yeah I think it hit too close to our new normal for comfort.

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                                                    To me Don’t look up was nothing but a babble fest.

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                                                      Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                                      Yeah I think it hit too close to our new normal for comfort.
                                                      It sure did.
                                                      Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                                                      To me Don’t look up was nothing but a babble fest.
                                                      Very much so. I think it was a very much intended part of the atmosphere of the movie.

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                                                        Don't look up is basically idiocracy except it is uncomfortable close to how things really are right now.

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                                                          Originally posted by Mangler View Post
                                                          Don't look up is basically idiocracy except it is uncomfortable close to how things really are right now.
                                                          Yeah hence why I didn't enjoy it, sad to see what we've become.

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                                                            Ghostbusters Afterlife - 7/10

                                                            Back to the future 1-3 7/10

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                                                              Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                                              Yeah hence why I didn't enjoy it, sad to see what we've become.
                                                              I didn’t like it because I think it just sucked.

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                                                                Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                                                                I didn’t like it because I think it just sucked.
                                                                That's another reason.

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                                                                  Aliens 10/10. Flawless, a masterpiece of sci-fi action. Takes what worked about the first one and ramps everything up to 11. They keep the aliens scary, while still showing much more than the first film, especially the end battle where you really get to see the queen in all her terrifying glory. Amazing costumes and puppetry too, really sells the aliens.

                                                                  BTW, we watched the extended special edition, which is significantly better than the theatrical version, so that might explain why some people may disagree whether this one is better than the original Alien.

                                                                  Also, I recall seeing a tv version once, and I think that one was much shorter, and felt like they skipped major chunks of the movie. Like being surprised that they basically skipped straight from the middle of the film straight to the final battle.
                                                                  Originally posted by KAC
                                                                  To be honest I never even found doom 3 to be scary since I have a big dick since birth.

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                                                                    Swan Song on Apple TV.

                                                                    Not….my type of movie really, but excellent acting and thought provoking.

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                                                                      Ghostbusters Afterlife.

                                                                      I liked it. Hope they do a couple more. 7-10
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                                                                        Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                                                                        Ghostbusters Afterlife - 7/10

                                                                        Back to the future 1-3 7/10
                                                                        BTTF. Bitch please.

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                                                                          Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                                          BTTF. Bitch please.
                                                                          Classics!

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                                                                            Monster Hunter

                                                                            6 / 10

                                                                            Perlman looked awful

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                                                                              Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
                                                                              Monster Hunter

                                                                              6 / 10

                                                                              Perlman looked awful
                                                                              the whole movie was awful


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                                                                                Originally posted by Silent-Runner View Post
                                                                                the whole movie was awful
                                                                                This, terribad.

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                                                                                  Originally posted by Silent-Runner View Post
                                                                                  the whole movie was awful
                                                                                  Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                                                                  This, terribad.
                                                                                  I liked it. It was a stupid, corny throwback to the old B monster movies with giant grasshoppers and tomato’s and stuff attacking

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