Slowdowns?

[Crawdaddy79]

A large part of me wishes that there were no bonus points. It adds extra stress to something that shouldn't be stressful, and I think if my system were middle-grade or less, I would be discouraged from folding altogether.

It probably does encourage higher-end hardware sales, which I like.

[cbsboyer]

I don't fold on the cpu 24-26 hours per wu isn't cost efficient. All I do is slow down the science. A modern i3 will outperform my FX 8350, avx performance has never been stellar single thread performance subpar at best. It also adds 30sec to 1 min to my tpf on gpu wu's.

--->8---

I found exactly the same thing, plus it slowed down my GPU folding because it couldn't keep the video cards fed properly. I was just burning an extra 100W for nothing. I'm getting more work done without a CPU folding slot at all.

My PPD just got killed because it was unable to upload results for at least 12 hours. So much for the rapid return bonus...

[DarkFoss]

My system already slows down once the monitor goes to sleep, that adds 15-30 seconds to my tpf.

Once I can afford to upgrade I'll definitely do so. The new budget cpu's from AMD look enticing, the 3100/3300X for example. I just finished looking at the Phoronix benchmarks on them. I'd happily re-enable folding on those.

[Crawdaddy79]

Interesting - since your post I've found that any credit earned by my CPU is a wash.

A few times I've watched the GPU fold with idle CPU, and when the CPU gets a work unit, thee TPF does increase on the GPU by about 10%. Whatever credit estimate the CPU has, seems to get subtracted from the GPU estimate (proportional to how % complete the processing is).

My system is still burning through with very little involuntary idle time.

Are you looking to upgrade your system? I seriously considered getting all of your equipment at the time it came out (because AMD fanboi) but decided to wait because my Core i7 920/Radeon 7970 was still doing very well with games at 1080p.

[DarkFoss]

I don't fold on the cpu 24-26 hours per wu isn't cost efficient. All I do is slow down the science. A modern i3 will outperform my FX 8350, avx performance has never been stellar single thread performance subpar at best. It also adds 30sec to 1 min to my tpf on gpu wu's.

Seven GPU wu's in the last 60 hours. Yeah the FuryX should be able to fold anything Vega does just a bit slower. Oddly enough with the new core 22 units the more atoms the better. A project with 400k atoms will complete 2 1/2 hours faster than one with 28k lol

@Flyordie I keep forgetting FAH doesn't benefit from overclocking the memory unless something has changed recently that I'm unaware of.

[Crawdaddy79]

Really? For CPU and GPU?

These are the GPU work units I've had since I started my spreadsheet Tuesday.

11742 (0, 5852, 3)
11742 (0, 7904, 58)
11742 (0, 9003, 8)
11743 (0, 7267, 11)
11743 (0, 9048, 11)
11744 (0, 2048, 10)
11744 (0, 3584, 61)
11745 (0, 1098, 90)
11745 (0, 5285, 42)
11751 (0, 7230, 12)
11761 (0, 12380, 9)
11761 (0, 246, 52)
11761 (0, 4804, 35)
11762 (0, 10997, 12)
11762 (0, 12079, 11)
11762 (0, 14909, 4)
11763 (0, 11081, 24)
11763 (0, 2048, 54)
14415 (0, 201, 25)
14417 (0, 1465, 28)
14538 (0, 1512, 79)
14549 (0, 1489, 23)
16435 (1795, 2, 1)
16435 (2909, 4, 4)
16435 (418, 1, 1)


CPU

13826 (610, 5, 6)
13851 (0, 17338, 57)
13851 (0, 8821, 46)
13851(0, 30788, 66)
14234 (744, 1, 6)
14363 (129, 1, 81)
14365 (434, 4, 78)
14368 (865, 1, 68)
14526 (0, 15, 31)
14534 (485, 3, 11)
14548 (1023, 2, 55)
14627 (1973, 1, 36)
14628 (127, 0, 3)
14723 (1022, 0, 3)
14724 (1649, 0, 5)
16401 (702, 3, 89)
16401 (761, 2, 110)
16403 (855, 3, 92)
16411 (2273, 1, 89)
16422 (251, 0, 130)
16424 (1128, 0, 27)
16424 (1704, 0, 19)
16801 (4, 576, 12)
16801 (8, 563, 22)
16801 (9, 124, 10)
16804 (23, 378, 1)
16804 (65, 328, 5)



I assume the FuryX handles the same projects that RX Vega does, but maybe not?

[DarkFoss]

I've been lucky to get 3 wu's per day over the last 2 days. Today is off to another stellar start 7 hours idling so far. Adding and removing the advanced flag has had zero impact during this time. Atleast I got 4 wu's 3 days ago.

[Crawdaddy79]

So for about three days, the only time my PC is not folding is when I've manually paused it (or after a crash ). Getting a constant stream of CPU WUs, and near-constant GPU WUs. The most attempts I've seen before download is four.

Those of you having issues with advanced projects - it might be feasible to turn off the advanced key and get more PPD 4 R3D!

[Crawdaddy79]

Stats servers are a bit lower on the priority chain, but they'll eventually catch up and you will see a big dump....well, usually

You got over 5 Million points with the last run/update. I got a about 860k. I think we're caught up.

[jima13]

Stats servers are a bit lower on the priority chain, but they'll eventually catch up and you will see a big dump....well, usually

[Crawdaddy79]

I will say that it does look better, but that's the exception, not the rule. Usually the EOC score is higher. Crazy stuff going on. Almost as crazy as our economy flatlining to unsuccessfully slow the virus.

[Android1]

I don't know if anyone is experiencing point loss, but I'm getting about a 25% success rate of successful WUs complete actually adding to my score.

Third, for all the people that have been emailing me complaining where are their points and what's going on. Let me be clear: I am in no way affiliated with Bowman Lab, Washington University, or the official [email protected] project. I'm just a regular guy like all of you, and I get all my information from all the same public resources. Sorry but I can't do anything about missing points, server problems, or any of that stuff.

After I updated my laptop's drivers, it's been cruising along at 350k PPD but my daily average is 220k? Also my desktop is sporadically producing 40 - 90k GPU WUs and 2k - 30k CPU WUs? 1.2M PPD if I let it run continuously?

I should be averaging about 800k PPD. I just had a big 200k point upload success between the two computers 90 minutes before the next "run" and I got a whopping 0 for that segment.

I am missing points too, according to my stats on EXTREME Overclocking. Is that what you are looking at? This is what the developer of the site had to say yesterday.

It looks like the [email protected] servers have been getting hit pretty hard these past couple days. When things get overloaded, the stats feed become the low priority on the update list (hence, all the 0 updates). Rest assured, any WUs you send back to the servers are safe and will get processed eventually, just please be patient! The [email protected] team has been diligently bringing more servers online, but I think there are so many idle clients out there it still far exceeds all the new capacity.

Take at look at your stats on the [email protected] website. It says that you have 5,306,055 points from 4,262 WUs. Does that look better?

With that being said, however, I could swear that I should have more points in the official [email protected] stats too. Maybe the credit is simply getting lost.

[Crawdaddy79]

I don't know if anyone is experiencing point loss, but I'm getting about a 25% success rate of successful WUs complete actually adding to my score.

Third, for all the people that have been emailing me complaining where are their points and what's going on. Let me be clear: I am in no way affiliated with Bowman Lab, Washington University, or the official [email protected] project. I'm just a regular guy like all of you, and I get all my information from all the same public resources. Sorry but I can't do anything about missing points, server problems, or any of that stuff.

After I updated my laptop's drivers, it's been cruising along at 350k PPD but my daily average is 220k? Also my desktop is sporadically producing 40 - 90k GPU WUs and 2k - 30k CPU WUs? 1.2M PPD if I let it run continuously?

I should be averaging about 800k PPD. I just had a big 200k point upload success between the two computers 90 minutes before the next "run" and I got a whopping 0 for that segment.

[konjini]

That's Amazon Web Services Elastic Compute Cloud! They're probably devoting spare capacity on their cloud infrastructure to folding.

And that probably explains why I'm getting no GPU WUs again.

https://twitter.com/iMMRufen/status/...679334918?s=19

Make them work!

Sent from my SM-J710GN using Tapatalk

[dhc014]

I assume we all check the stats at ;-https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/individual_list.php?s=&srt=1

Check out user ec2spot for team AWSFolds

just under 2 billion 24hr average.
That must be some kind of super computer as it's like having 1000+ GPU

That's Amazon Web Services Elastic Compute Cloud! They're probably devoting spare capacity on their cloud infrastructure to folding.

And that probably explains why I'm getting no GPU WUs again.

[Ally]

I assume we all check the stats at ;-https://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/individual_list.php?s=&srt=1

Check out user ec2spot for team AWSFolds

just under 2 billion 24hr average.
That must be some kind of super computer as it's like having 1000+ GPU

[Crawdaddy79]

Same here. Sunday night I left it on all night. When I got to it at 8AM, I had a tally of zero points for the day. Much different story today.

[Turbo_Rage3d_]

Seems like I am currently getting a good supply of WUs.

[luxor]

I've giving up folding on my laptop.
Other programs were starting to be extremely slow and WU would crap out half of the time when restarting folding after pausing it.
For now, I'll still keep the 2400G folding.

[Crawdaddy79]

When I first started up my 1060/i7 laptop to fold, the first few WUs were like that.

My desktop has had several crashes since starting this (very frustrating - I've narrowed it down to the GPU needs to be taken apart and put back together again, properly... by a professional) and occasionally after resuming a WU it was working on it the results will get rejected.

Haven't seen that message in a while, though.

[Turbo_Rage3d_]

My systems are not able to get any WUs this morning.

And in addition, here's what happened when the last WU was uploaded:



Looks like 12 hours of folding that got wasted.

I haven't seen anything like that on my systems. Sometimes sending the completed WUs takes 10+ tries or either I don't get new WUs. Fortunately for the last 24 hours or so, neither has been an issue.

[luxor]

My systems are not able to get any WUs this morning.

And in addition, here's what happened when the last WU was uploaded:

10:59:11:WU02:FS01:Trying to send results to collection server
10:59:11:WU02:FS01:Uploading 23.06MiB to 155.247.166.219
10:59:11:WU02:FS01:Connecting to 155.247.166.219:8080
10:59:17:WU02:FS01:Upload 17.35%
10:59:23:WU02:FS01:Upload 40.12%
10:59:29:WU02:FS01:Upload 68.86%
10:59:35:WU02:FS01:Upload 98.13%
10:59:35:WU02:FS01:Upload complete
10:59:35:WU02:FS01:Server responded WORK_QUIT (404)
10:59:35:WARNING:WU02:FS01:Server did not like results, dumping
10:59:35:WU02:FS01:Cleaning up

Looks like 12 hours of folding that got wasted.

[Android1]

I just fired up the client again, and I finally got some work: a coronavirus WU (11742).

[Android1]

I hope it does too!!

Thanks.

[Turbo_Rage3d_]

Nice. Hopefully my luck will turn.

I hope it does too!!

[Android1]

As of this moment all 3 of my GPUs have WUs and looking at my stats on EOC it looks like I may have been getting them consistently since the 12 am update.

Nice. Hopefully my luck will turn.

[Turbo_Rage3d_]

For your GPU? I just gave it a try, and I got nothing after six attempts.

As of this moment all 3 of my GPUs have WUs and looking at my stats on EOC it looks like I may have been getting them consistently since the 12 am update.

[Android1]

It seems like I have been getting consistent WUs since last night also.

For your GPU? I just gave it a try, and I got nothing after six attempts.

[Turbo_Rage3d_]

PC's running much warmer today. Morning was dry but have been getting constant WUs since 9AM.

It seems like I have been getting consistent WUs since last night also.

[Crawdaddy79]

PC's running much warmer today. Morning was dry but have been getting constant WUs since 9AM.

[konjini]

This thread,

[DarkFoss]

No wu's here in 10 hours. looks like I might as well boot to linux for a bit. Do some updating and see if I can install the fah client.
@android1 Yep we were looking at the same thread.
@Flyordie I spent a couple hours in the logs listing all my completed and failed gpu wu's lowest consistent failure was 165k.
Half tempted to roll back to a 19.x driver see if that makes a difference.

[Turbo_Rage3d_]

Just glad to see the surge in people folding.

[Flyordie]

Yea, GPUs with less than 8GB of DRAM are having major issues with the big CV19 WUs. They are over 170,000 atoms in most cases.

[Lupine]

Haven't seen a single WU pass through, granted I'm not babysitting so may have missed some.

edit: sig stats show 54 today, so yeah. Pretty dry. I'll check my Ryzen box when I get home from work.

[Crawdaddy79]

I think my system crunched six WU all day. It's been really dry.

[Turbo_Rage3d_]

And now I'm home, and on attempt 10 to get a WU.

[Turbo_Rage3d_]

I've been having the same problem getting WUs for my GPUs. I decided to start folding on my 3900x and it's pulling WUs consistantly.

Hope they get it sorted out soon. I miss the ppd I was getting with my 5700xt , gtx 1070, & 5700 (flashed to an xt).

Thankfully I'm not seeing any errors on any of the cards, just not get WUs consistantly at all, even killing [email protected] in task manger & restarting. It will get better soon I'm sure.

After I posted this I decided to log into my main rig at home and finally it got a WU!! Woooohoooooo!! LOL

[Turbo_Rage3d_]

I've been having the same problem getting WUs for my GPUs. I decided to start folding on my 3900x and it's pulling WUs consistantly.

Hope they get it sorted out soon. I miss the ppd I was getting with my 5700xt , gtx 1070, & 5700 (flashed to an xt).

Thankfully I'm not seeing any errors on any of the cards, just not get WUs consistantly at all, even killing [email protected] in task manger & restarting. It will get better soon I'm sure.

[Android1]

I've seen that message about three times in the last few days. I don't think it's for us to worry about. Whoever is producing the WU isn't packaging them correctly, according to some post on the Folding forum.

Are you referring to this thread? That would explain my problem perfectly.

AMD card? What error in particular I see this one crop up the wu never starts folding just fails the check and gets sent off.

ERROR:exception: Error invoking kernel sortShortList: clEnqueueNDRangeKernel (-5)

Also there is even talk about banning AMD cards from certain wu's with very large atom counts per this thread.

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=32771

From Joe H (site admin)

I have an AMD Radeon RX 570, and that is the exact same error that I have been getting. Check out the latest post in the thread that I linked to in my reply to Crawdaddy79. It looks as though the issue might be with the WUs.