Official Mining Thread

[curio]

Yeah they're priced outrageous right now

And honestly you don't need platinum efficiency; gold is just fine. So is silver or bronze really; it would take years to make up the difference in what they cost in comparison to each other

[GTwannabe]

....

Hey, it's not like NV is releasing a new architecture soon that will crater the profitability of his mining rig...

[curio]

Hey, it's not like NV is releasing a new architecture soon that will crater the profitability of his mining rig...

Yeah good luck finding multiples of those at an affordable price when they're released. Hell the Titan V's now are going for $3.5k-$5k each by scalpers on Ebay.

And I'd wait for a watercooled Ti version anyway; so add another year.

[Exposed]

Things are pointing to the new Nvidia gaming cards to be locked out of mining, while Nvidia will take advantage of you miners with a mining only card to be released alongside.

Considering no one has yet cracked Nvidia's military grade encryption in the bios, you can't just buy a gaming card and flash it. Assuming that's how they're going to go about it.

Lastly, this is the amount of tears I will shed when miners start complaining about Nvidia's anti-mining moves:

[curio]

I don't see why anyone would complain (not to say they still won't), it's the right move

[Seyiji]

Things are pointing to the new Nvidia gaming cards to be locked out of mining, while Nvidia will take advantage of you miners with a mining only card to be released alongside.

Considering no one has yet cracked Nvidia's military grade encryption in the bios, you can't just buy a gaming card and flash it. Assuming that's how they're going to go about it.

Lastly, this is the amount of tears I will shed when miners start complaining about Nvidia's anti-mining moves:


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>Talks about anti mining
>Says company is possibly slated to release mining related hardware

Implying nvidia and aib partners wont double dip like they have with P106 and the like already cause lol money.

[Exposed]

[quote=Seyiji;1338054900]>Talks about anti mining
>Says company is possibly slated to release mining related hardware

The two are distinct.

If they allow double dipping then it makes absolutely no sense to release a dedicated mining card, or go through the effort of making one. Miners will just buy both. Which is why the gamer cards will need to lock out mining.

Nvidia obviously wants to protect their gaming market, otherwise this wouldn't be happening.

[andino]

If Nvidia can make money they will.

Sure, they will say they are doing all they can for the gaming community but the reality is that they are a business and their product is flying off the shelf at a premium.

They are only responsible to their shareholders. Not gamers.

[curio]

Yeah but they also know if they lose their gaming base, they'll be up **** creek

[OverclockN']

I'd expect them to do everything they can to hold onto both markets. Gaming certainly isn't going anywhere, and who the hell knows what crypto will do. If they let things go as is, those gamers will eventually buy consoles or move on to other things. They'll lose a big share of the gaming market, and it'll more bad news if things change with crypto and the demand for cards drops where the gamers are now gone.

[andino]

If demand is high then they can always increase the supply to match the demand. That usually equated to more profit.

I believe that the problems of availability are currently caused by manufacturing shifting over to the 2000 series of cards and shortages in their supply chain.

It's not like Nvidia will not increase production to match demand. It is in their and their shareholders best interest.

[Exposed]

Nvidia doesn't manufacturer their own chips, TMSC does. Cards have been in low supplies due to mining since last Summer, if not before. That means both AMD and Nvidia are at allocation capacity with no room to increase more.

[andino]

https://www.polygon.com/2018/1/30/16...urrency-mining

“The graphics channel is very low, and we’re certainly working to replenish that channel environment,” said Dr. Su. Because the availability of graphics cards is “lower than we would like it to be,” she added, “we are ramping up production.” However, Dr. Su noted that AMD faces some supply issues of its own: Although manufacturing is not constrained by the availability of silicon, the company is contending with shortages in both GDDR5 and HBM2 memory. (The former RAM type is used in the RX 400 and RX 500 series cards, while the latter is used in the RX Vega line.)

“We continue to work through that with our memory partners,” said Dr. Su.

My bet is that the memory companies will ramp up to.

That is how business works.

[Riptide]

Got a msi 1080ti gaming x on the way now. And a m.2 riser adapter.

Going to be running 3 cards (the cards only, no cpu/ram/motherboard) off my 850w PSU. I will monitor it with corsair link and if I have to dial TDP back I will absolutely do so in order to make this work at 80% load or less.

Worst case I'll put it upstairs in this computer.

[Exposed]

https://www.polygon.com/2018/1/30/16...urrency-mining



My bet is that the memory companies will ramp up to.

That is how business works.

HBM2 has its own supply issues which does not translate to Nvidia's own shortages. AMD also builds its own cards so that is what they mean by "ramping up production", but where are their GPU chips coming from? Can GloFlo ramp up production of chips if they ask? If so, at the expense of who?

You only need to see this very thread where people are buying up 7, 8, 10 1080Ti's at a time and that mining demand is why there is a shortage of Nvidia GPU's, and since Nvidia doesn't build or manufacturer anything and there's only so many chips TMSC can roll out on a monthly basis per client, depending on their allocation agreement.

You speak as if Nvidia could have simply increased manufacturing (even though they don't manufacturer anything), and voila! None of the supply and demand issues due to miners in the last year. That is NOT how the business works.

[KAC]

It would be foolish not to offer mining on both cards. You should come and see how many RX580s are sold for mining.

[KAC]

Got a msi 1080ti gaming x on the way now. And a m.2 riser adapter.

Going to be running 3 cards (the cards only, no cpu/ram/motherboard) off my 850w PSU. I will monitor it with corsair link and if I have to dial TDP back I will absolutely do so in order to make this work at 80% load or less.

Worst case I'll put it upstairs in this computer.

Did you get it for 899 on the egg?

[OverclockN']

It would be foolish not to offer mining on both cards. You should come and see how many RX580s are sold for mining.

That's just greed talking. They'll lose the gaming market, no question about it.

[Riptide]

Did you get it for 899 on the egg?

Yah.

Same way anyone else can and the same way I've got every last 1080 card I've bought over the past two years. I used nowinstock and I ordered it right away.

People act like they can't get a GPU without paying $1000+. Either they are lazy, stupid, or just telling lies.

[KAC]

I agree over the past month I have snatched the following

Seahawks at 949 a pop.
EVGA SC2 at 819 a pop.
MSI Duke at 813 a pop.
EVGA FTW Hybrid at 899 a pop.
MSI Gaming X at 769 a pop.
Gigabyte Aurous at 849 a pop.

Cancelled last 4 as I wanted hybrids only.

Didn’t pay over 1000 for any card.

[KAC]

Difficulty seems to be ramping up again. Can't wait for the summer when most casual gays would stop mining their cards.
Also curio/Riptide you planning on throwing up another rig when Volta/Ampere/Turing whatevadafuk is out?

[Riptide]

Not me. Just one Volta GPU for my main computer. Not dumping more into mining for a long while.

[KAC]

Yeah, I will indulge only if I get a payday in June/July when BTC is expected to be over 15K.

If none of that crap happens then I may keep this running for a while to pay itself off and then see what's up.

[Dave]

Personally can't believe some of you are still spending money on mining rigs before they have broken even.

[KAC]

Who are you referring to? I am still in the process of building the mining rig. Adding fans and third PSU for stabilization is still building the same rig I intended to in the first place.

So was curio (his one card is away at the moment) and so is Riptide.

???

[andino]

My 1080ti SC2 Hybrid gets here Friday.

[KAC]

I am not too happy with my SC2 cards. They barely meet the MSI Sea Hawks and perform worse in mining. However, they are silent and run very cool. So I ended up adding about +50 to the core and +350 to the mem to match what I was getting w/ seahawks in mining.

Best is strix. It mines at ****ing 1949 MHz and stays around 61 C without making any sound. I would have loved to have another 8 of those puppies.

[andino]

I stick with EVGA. I buy them for their warranty and their step up program.

I'm getting the cards to game on and then mine with my computer down time.

I don't think I'll ever go non-hybrid again after I have had such a great time with these 980ti hybrids. It's so nice to play games without hearing a small jet engine under the desk.

[KAC]

For gaming surely these look like very good options. The temperature they run at is so nice at 45 C. It is only the one in my main rig hitting 64 C because it has a STRIX under it breathing really hot air all over the place.
How much do you pay for this SC2? I paid 819 for mine not including taxes/shipping.

[Dave]

Reading that mining profits are down past few days. Bitcoin currently below $11k.

https://coinmarketcap.com/

alt coins getting hit hard

[KAC]

Yup, that is correct. Past 4-5 days I have seen my daily earn rate come down from 0.0031 BTC to about 0.0025. However, with the addition of 2 cards, I managed to snag about 0.0035 BTC yesterday.

[Dave]

"With the addition of two $800 dollar cards, I increased my profits by $11 a day"

Also 1080 Ti's are not making .0005 a day.

[KAC]

No they are making about 0.0038-0.0042 per day.
I am no longer counting money. I am only counting BTC. I always wanted to make about 0.003 or higher BTC per day. Which is what I am doing now so it is all OK for now.

My banking is more on BTC being priced at over 15K sometime during the year. That is what I am looking towards. My downside is that cards pay for themselves by end of the year.

That is it.

Also your statement could be re-written as with the addition of 1840$ of cards (my actual purchase price), I increased my revenue to 4015$ per year.

[Riptide]

I'm just maxing out my six GPU frame and power. No more after this I'm not putting another one together.

I'm confident it'll break even eventually even if it's 8-10 months out. I'm patient. If it doesn't then I chose the wrong alts to mine or sold at the wrong time. Simple as that.

[KAC]

Technically, I only need to make 5500 out of this and I am sure I can recoup 4500 through sale of hardware even after 6 months.

[curio]

Also curio/Riptide you planning on throwing up another rig when Volta/Ampere/Turing whatevadafuk is out?

I doubt I will; even if I decided to do it someday I would wait until there's a watercooled Ti version anyway

[andino]

For gaming surely these look like very good options. The temperature they run at is so nice at 45 C. It is only the one in my main rig hitting 64 C because it has a STRIX under it breathing really hot air all over the place.
How much do you pay for this SC2? I paid 819 for mine not including taxes/shipping.

$869.

[acroig]

Lastly, this is the amount of tears I will shed when miners start complaining about Nvidia's anti-mining moves:

[KAC]

Are you gays mining ETH?

[Riptide]

Difficulty is high your better off mining something else and trading.