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    HD3870 860 core fix + fan speed fix

    Hello all , i finally found the 3870 bios i was looking for...the bios have the 860Mhz core bug fix , and the most important feature : the speed fan is fixed. The fans of both of my HIS 3870 was stuck at 28-30% at all time. Sure it's quiet but it overheat ( 80-92c ) if you overclock. Also i was sick to disable crossfire and then set manually each card at 55% with rivatuner and re-enable crossfire each time i reboot. With this BIOS the fan speed increase dynamically versus GPU temp on BOTH card while crossfire is enabled.

    I have taken some note while testing the cards :

    Fan duty cycle

    57c and lower : 37%
    58-61c : 45%
    61-62c : 55%
    63-64c : 59%
    65c : 62%

    it could be a bit noiser for some user but it still very quiet versus a 2900XT. I don't hear them at all because i own the CoolerMaster Cosmos case with acoustic foams in the sides panel....I can't tell what happen after 65c , because my card never reached a temp higher than 65c. I still have the factory coolers with Arctic silver 5 thermal paste. I think this it great for users who don't want to shell out more $$ for Duorbs or Accelero S1... if the temps won't go higher than 65 it will stay that way for me.




    Have fun .. i flashed both my card and it work fine

    now just some warnings :


    1- UNINSTALL ANY ATI SOFTWARE BEFORE FLASHING A BIOS
    2- IF YOU CAN CALL YOURSELF A NEWBIE AND NOT COMFORTABLE WITH BIOS FLASHING , SKIP IT AND DON'T DO ANYTHING !
    3- IM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DESTROY YOUR CARD , BUT YOU ARE. IT WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY.



    Fixed BIOS
    http://www3.sympatico.ca/ocd/bios/3870fanfix.bin


    This file below is a original 3870 BIOS , quite handy to have is something go wrong
    Stock HIS HD3870 bios
    http://www3.sympatico.ca/ocd/bios/HIS3870.bin


    This is a ISO for a boot cd containing the required files to boot and flash your cards. The fixed bios is called 3870fix.bin and a original bios 3870.bin. Once you have booted change the prompt for your optical drive and use the usual atiflash 3.49 commands to flash right away. This boot cd might not work if you have a SATA optical drive because there's no sata driver on the cd

    http://rapidshare.com/files/85513179...tbios.iso.html

    IM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DESTROY YOUR CARD
    Last edited by Burn; Feb 10, 2008, 06:46 AM.
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    #2
    Where did you find this? I'm looking for a HD3850 BIOS that fixes the fan problem.

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      #3
      the only place this could have come from is from an expc xxx edition hd3870 as these are the only cards amd has taken the time to code a fan fix for.

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        #4
        i didn't bookmark the website sorry but ill try to find the site again...

        it was some sort of forum where the users are invited to upload thier BIOS coming from 3870/3850 cards to build up a database for a program called RaBIT ( BIOS editor ) . I have multiple BIOS here .. this one was the first i tried and im happy with it. I also have the BIOS for the GECUBE OC edition with the special cooler ,the fan is supposed to work to keep the card at 70c ...

        the only place this could have come from is from an expc xxx edition hd3870 as these are the only cards amd has taken the time to code a fan fix for
        Im 99% sure is not from the extremePC cards ..



        EDIT : i found it again have fun !!!
        http://www.mvktech.net/component/opt...lectcat/cat,1/
        Last edited by Burn; Jan 5, 2008, 01:40 PM.
        -Burn
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          #5
          Ive been looking everywhere for a bios fix for the low spinning fan on my Visiontek 3870 and this here file is the best thing since sliced bread LOL.

          Flashed by bios and have 25c lower temps under load since. Even upped the core/mem to 820/1201 and it still hovers around 61c under full load playing crysis with everything high and another plus is I still cant hear the fan LOL.

          Thank you Burn.
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            #6
            im glad it worked for you too Spyhawk !

            here is a little chart from rivatuner while doing 3 loop Crysis island benchmark all on high. Look how the fan work... top is 65c , factory cooler.

            note : something i just noted .. while i set at 875/1256Mhz in the CCC overdrive tab , Rivatuner report it as 864/1251mhz ...humm


            -Burn
            see button on the left for system specs.


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              #7
              Can i use his bios for a Saphire or i need one from Saphire???
              I know my english suxx sorry !!!

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                #8
                i used it on my HIS and spyhawk on his Visiontek ...

                you can use it on any board as long it's a HD3870 256 Bit 512Mb GDDR4
                -Burn
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                  #9
                  So with one do you say its the best? Gecube, powercolor... ??
                  I know my english suxx sorry !!!

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                    #10
                    burn, can you post GPU-z to check what is the BIOS vers do you currently use?
                    thanks
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by becco View Post
                      burn, can you post GPU-z to check what is the BIOS vers do you currently use?
                      thanks

                      Im at work now , so i will post a GPUZ BIOS version soon as i get home. I have found some infos about this BIOS. I was not sure yet but this BIOS is in fact from Sapphire. This is a BETA version they are using now for the Sapphire Atomic edition HD 3870 cooler ( the hd3870 Vapor Chamber technology single slot cooling solution ). quite interesting huh ?

                      the GPUZ screenie will tell us .. maybe Spyhawk can post it before i can...
                      -Burn
                      see button on the left for system specs.


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                        #12
                        I hope this is not the Sapphire BIOS I tried a month ago. It was very good to keep temps down and for higher OC but I was unable to cope with the noise increase and rapid fluctuation (eg opened game menu and already decreased fan speed).

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                          #13
                          Can i use this Bios-Fan fix 4 Gecube card or its only 4 HIS
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                            #14
                            you can use this BIOS for ANY 3870 series card with 512mb DDR4
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by becco View Post
                              burn, can you post GPU-z to check what is the BIOS vers do you currently use?
                              thanks

                              This is my GPU-Z results
                              [FONT='Calibri','sans-serif']http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/cfddv/[/FONT]
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                                #16
                                here you go ....

                                -Burn
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                                  #17
                                  How do you post GPU-z screenies like you did Burn ?
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                                    #18
                                    Well my oc of 875/1256 wasnt stable with CoD4 and Crysis. In both games, my system would freeze and need a reboot . Not sure what the cause could be. It worked well with 3dmark06. Temps never went past 65c, but system froze anyway. Maybe gpu voltage related.

                                    Brought my settings down to 850/1256 and now system is stable under load with CoD4 and crysis, with about the same temps.
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                                      #19
                                      Would be nice to find a way to easily modify gpu voltage with software or trough the bios
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                                        #20
                                        Well my oc of 875/1256 wasnt stable with CoD4 and Crysis. In both games, my system would freeze and need a reboot . Not sure what the cause could be. It worked well with 3dmark06. Temps never went past 65c, but system froze anyway. Maybe gpu voltage related.

                                        Brought my settings down to 850/1256 and now system is stable under load with CoD4 and crysis, with about the same temps.
                                        Not all cards are capable of high overclocking , some chip are better than others, you must find the lucky one . in my case i dont have system freeze but i start to get some VPU recover past 877....if your happy with 850 , well it still a nice bump over 777Mhz no ? .
                                        -Burn
                                        see button on the left for system specs.


                                        There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.

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                                          #21
                                          thanks for the shot Burn
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                                            #22
                                            cheers for this m8 - using rivatuner has been doing my nut in.
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                                              #23
                                              Hmmm….updated my bios to 010.071, (was 010.067). I don’t get the black screen going past 862 anymore …but any games I run with a clock speed of 820 or higher….crash. Right now I’m running at default speeds (777/1126) and everything is stable.

                                              Also, is this is supposed to fix the fan speed? If it did…it’s the quietest fix I’ve ever heard, this card is whisper quiet, even running games maxed! I don’t even hear any changes in fan speed.

                                              Also the GPU temperatures didn’t seem to change; still running around 73 degrees Celsius (according to the ATI overdrive panel)

                                              What did I miss?

                                              Visiontek 3870

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                                                #24
                                                Also, is this is supposed to fix the fan speed? If it did…it’s the quietest fix I’ve ever heard, this card is whisper quiet, even running games maxed! I don’t even hear any changes in fan speed
                                                try to monitor the fan duty cycle during a game session with rivatuner , you will see if it change something.. like i said previously it might not work for everyone.
                                                -Burn
                                                see button on the left for system specs.


                                                There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.

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                                                  #25
                                                  Anyone tryed this on their Diamond 3870?
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                                                    #26
                                                    Woot just flashed my Diamond 3870 works great.. never gets over 65c under load and overclocked and 42c idle fan at 30% geat find!!! here is a screen shot. of what im running going to go higher later this week..

                                                    like I said only 65c under load at this clock speed so I should be able to go higher and the great part is this is just with stock cooling..
                                                    Last edited by TriC; Jan 9, 2008, 04:58 AM.
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by TriC View Post
                                                      I can't seem to get ATI flash to work...
                                                      atiflash -p 0 3870fanf.bin -f
                                                      gives me error adapter not found and 0fl01
                                                      I can't seem to find my adapter I tryed 0 to 10 and each time says adapter not found.
                                                      Flash trying this:

                                                      A:\atiflash -f -p 0 whatever.xxx
                                                      for example my bios file is called 8601200.sb. When I flash i type this in EVERYTIME and it works 100% (A:\atiflash -f -p 0 8601200.sb)

                                                      (-f is force the flash) (-p is flash bios now) (0 is the 1st video card in system) (and "whatever.xxx" is the name of your bios file)


                                                      Try this and report back.
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by newls1 View Post
                                                        Flash trying this:

                                                        A:\atiflash -f -p 0 whatever.xxx
                                                        for example my bios file is called 8601200.sb. When I flash i type this in EVERYTIME and it works 100% (A:\atiflash -f -p 0 8601200.sb)

                                                        (-f is force the flash) (-p is flash bios now) (0 is the 1st video card in system) (and "whatever.xxx" is the name of your bios file)


                                                        Try this and report back.
                                                        yep I got it to work turns out I had the wrong ATIflash.. lol I was using the one that I used on my x1950 so it was a little old.. I was just to lasy to fine the new version.. but now I did and it works like a charm.
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                                                          #29
                                                          this bios works perfect on my sapphire 3870's.

                                                          overclocked to 865/1260 both cards are ~60c under load and the noise level is very nice actually, absolutely no need for aftermarket coolers with this bios.
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                                                            #30
                                                            oh .. and if you folks don't like to flash your cards in DOS mode you can use ATIWinFlash v2.0.0.2 , flash your cards within windows , work with vista & XP , i tried it.

                                                            for the record i tried a new BIOS i found , it's from the Extreme PC XXX edition , it works but the fan speed is still broken. Reverted to one i posted here.


                                                            -Burn
                                                            see button on the left for system specs.


                                                            There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.

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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Burn View Post
                                                              oh .. and if you folks don't like to flash your cards in DOS mode you can use ATIWinFlash v2.0.0.2 , flash your cards within windows , work with vista & XP , i tried it.

                                                              for the record i tried a new BIOS i found , it's from the Extreme PC XXX edition , it works but the fan speed is still broken. Reverted to one i posted here.



                                                              I use ATIWinflash v2.0.0.2a; must be a newer version. Question: do you get an error message that reads: “Invalid VBIOS image”? If so what do you do to remedy it? I just ignore and press on; the BIOS still updates.

                                                              At any rate I used the “fanfix” BIOS supplied by “Burn” (the one from sapphire) and the fan now runs faster and “louder”, with lowered temps. GPU-Z now reports the card as a Sapphire 3870 (my card is a Visiontek) but fan fix lowered my temperature by 25 degrees. Amazing!

                                                              Now I just need to find the optimum clock speed. I had the GPU clocked at 864, and the memory at 1359 and it crashed in 3DMark06 and FEAR – Perseus Mandate.

                                                              PS: I also got the “black screen” back with this BIOS going higher then 864, though the fan fix works. Interesting.

                                                              At any rate I’ll keep this fan fix bios for the lowered temp, even if I can’t OC past 864.

                                                              Also, for those that might not know, you can back-up your video card BIOS using GPU-Z. Just click on the green folder next to the BIOS info, and it’ll give you the option to “Save to file” or Submit to online database” Tried and tested! But I’m sure you guys knew this anyway.

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                                                                #32
                                                                I use ATIWinflash v2.0.0.2a; must be a newer version. Question: do you get an error message that reads: “Invalid VBIOS image”? If so what do you do to remedy it? I just ignore and press on; the BIOS still updates.
                                                                i didn't get any errors , it just worked ...use ATIflash 3.49 instead. this is only an alternative..

                                                                Now I just need to find the optimum clock speed. I had the GPU clocked at 864, and the memory at 1359 and it crashed in 3DMark06 and FEAR – Perseus Mandate.

                                                                PS: I also got the “black screen” back with this BIOS going higher then 864, though the fan fix works. Interesting.

                                                                At any rate I’ll keep this fan fix bios for the lowered temp, even if I can’t OC past 864.
                                                                i start having VPU recover and crashes past 877 , it seems that results will not be the same for everyone. Try to lower your memory clock, i starting to think that a certain point you must lower one value if you want to continue to raise the other.... try 864/1200Mhz and see what happen.

                                                                sometime it's the games who are sensitive to OC. For example i can run Crysis , 3dmark06 and oblivion at 877/1256 but it crash with supreme commander ... but it work like a charm at 840/1201Mhz .. go figure....
                                                                -Burn
                                                                see button on the left for system specs.


                                                                There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.

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                                                                  #33
                                                                  To Burn,

                                                                  I already flashed my card with ATIWinflash, even with the error, no problems.

                                                                  Also, I dropped my clocks to 830/1256. This seems to have quieted the fan a little and I'm able to run 3DMark06 and games with no problems. Got 11541 from 3Dmark, up from 8600ish before bios flash.

                                                                  I have to say the graphics are amazing with this card in HL2-EP2. Can't wait to go through Bioshock again.

                                                                  Even though I have a single card, I'm very happy; big jump from my X1650Pro....Sweeeeeeet!

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Burn View Post
                                                                    oh .. and if you folks don't like to flash your cards in DOS mode you can use ATIWinFlash v2.0.0.2 , flash your cards within windows , work with vista & XP , i tried it.

                                                                    for the record i tried a new BIOS i found , it's from the Extreme PC XXX edition , it works but the fan speed is still broken. Reverted to one i posted here.


                                                                    Nice find +rep.

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Hey Burn, do we just flash the bios using the fix bios? Or do we have to use the fix one and the HIS bios or you just stuck the HIS bios just in case your flash went bad?
                                                                      Last edited by Rombat; Jan 10, 2008, 06:34 AM.

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        or you just stuck the HIS bios just in case your flash went bad
                                                                        yep, factory BIOS just in case ...
                                                                        -Burn
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Interesting problem here, had my clocks set to 825/1250 and things ran well for awhile, then last night I'm working on an Excel spreadsheet, and listening to TV through Windows Media Center and the computer reboots itself. WTH...OK, log in, start working on sheet again...reboot. What??? I got no error codes, nothing to say what failure was, Windows just acted like it was normally rebooted. Hmmmm. I dropped my clocks back to default, and have had no problems since then.

                                                                          Does this thing draw extra power being OC'd so little? I've been thinking about getting a higher powered power supply, as some have suggested that my Antec Neo HE 550 my not be strong enough for my system. I will say I've never had a problem before supply before, and it's only six months old.

                                                                          The suggested power supply rating for the 3870 is 450, 500 crossfire mode.

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                                                                            #38
                                                                            hey hey ... that's i was suspecting that too... i just reverted to CPU stock speed .. ill do some tests. Maybe the VPU recover i get at 877Mhz it's PSU related. The most affected game is supreme commander : instant crash if i put higher than 845Mhz during the internal supcom benchmark.

                                                                            i have a 700 Watts OCZ Psu :

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                                                                            not enough power ?


                                                                            i even suspected the driver, i reverted to 7.11 but supcom crashed in the second run at 865Mhz...Maybe the X38 board eat more power than my previous i975x board.. who knows, i will update in a half an hour or so after some tests ....



                                                                            EDIT : Well... it not caused by my OC ... same things happen with supcom
                                                                            Last edited by Burn; Jan 10, 2008, 12:12 PM.
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                                                                            see button on the left for system specs.


                                                                            There's a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              So... after all which bios is the best one?? GPU-Z tells me i have ATI card... i have no ideea if i did flash my bios or no.. i cant go to much higher with my card... on desktop i can go all the way to 900+ but when i start 3dmark it freez and my pc rebots even at 870Mhz....
                                                                              Last edited by ragewars_sc; Jan 10, 2008, 01:19 PM.
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Burn,

                                                                                You have a 700watt power supply, so I don't think that's your problem. I think it may be a clocking issue with some games. Did you change your memory timmings from 1251, and can you run stable at 845?

                                                                                I tried the auto tune thing under the catalyst control panel, but those settings won't work when I run games. I think I got 864/1350ish timimgs.

                                                                                As to my power supply, I just think It's a little low for my system overall. Otherwise, If I can run at 825/1250 and stable, without system reboots, I'll stay there till the card retires. All my games run well anyway at stock speeds, so I'm a happy camper either way.

                                                                                ragewars_sc,

                                                                                Use the bios in Burn's first post, It'll say "fanfix". As far as 900+ clock speeds, I think thats pushing it with regards to cooling, voltage, and games. I've seen some people complaining about 3DMark06 crashing at speeds above 877ish. I know I can't get get 3DMark06 to run past 855ish, and games like HL2-EP2, and Perseus Mandate crashes at those speeds. Those are the only games I've played with this card thus far, so...

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