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![]() Since most of the problems have been PSU or Motherboard Bios version related with the Radeon 9700, we should have an official thread. The clutter in this forum is getting to high, this should help. From what it looks like, an Average system needs a 400watt good name power supply to keep the Radeon 9700. -Enermax -Sparkle -Seasonic Seem to be the best for the Radeon 9700, especially Enermax. AVOID NO NAME POWER SUPPLIES! BUY ENERMAX! The Antec power supplies under 500w have not been that great either. So post here if you need help. If you have a working Radeon 9700 post your PSU, and system specs, and BIOS VERSION! Post steps too on what you did with your Bios or powersupply! Keep the clutter down! I'm not a mod, but all those damn threads are annoying as hell to sift through! |
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they are real
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![]() Enermax 350W KR7A-RAID with latest (9N) bios problem: cold boot issue I'm thinking of buying a Enermax 550W PSU atm, my +5V is only 4.81V this is because I'm running too many devices ? |
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![]() Enermax is meh. Enermax power supplies have no warranty at all, are extremely expensive, and you aren't guaranteed to get one with decent voltages. I'm also wary of the new Antec Trupower power supplies. There have been many reports of them dying, and it's also reported that need to time to "burn-in" before you get decent voltages. I had very good luck with a Heroicihi 350w power supply in my brother's P4 setup. It's constructed very well, has dual fans, is inexpensive, and has excellent voltages. Herocihi supplied Antec with their 350 watt power supplies, according to what I've read. |
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![]() This stuff about 350W PS not being enough is BS. Soory, but a 300W PSU shoudl run it fine. The high watt power supplies out are FAR exceeding the needed power that computers really ned(this does not include 'super cooled pc's).
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![]() its not the wattage that matters, its the +5 +12 whatever those values are. if those are consistent with the ratings then you should be fine. if they are not (lower by a little im guessing) then your in for some trouble. at least thats how i understand it.
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![]() Wheres a good place to buy Cases with the Power supply already installed? I'm thinking about getting the Enermax 400 watt PS. |
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![]() umm, nevermind ![]() According to Dan > http://www.dansdata.com/sfpsu.htm < Enermax, Topower, and Super Flower are all made in the same factory in Guangzhou, China; the Super Flower looks quite a bit like the TTGI > http://www.emaxasp.com/a-pro/details...m=PS%2DTT500SS < I've been using; currently have 3 of these 420,470 and 520 and have had no issues so far (my 9700 isn't installed yet though) FSP Group and Zippy/EMACS power supplies have been used by PC Power and Cooling. FSP Group came from the merger of Fortron Source and Sparkle Power about 8 years ago. A 460w Zippy can be found here> http://rackmountpro.com/productpage.cfm?prodid=828 Directron.com uses a crude weight rating on some of their power supplies ie the PCP&C Turbo Cool 425w weighs 7lb compared to the 4.32lb of the Antec 550 True Power.....power supplies by the pound and $$ to match. Noise? well the specs on the Turbo Cool list 44db, my watercooled system with the TTGI 520w, 3 120mm fans and the waterpump running hits about 35db.....unless I run the power suppy fans on the high setting, then I bump over 40db. Just my .02 cents..... ![]() |
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![]() Antec Truepower 330W powering the following: HP dvd200i DVD+RW Kenwood 52x CD-ROM 60GB Western Digital 40GB Western Digital Firewire Zip 250 Drive No problems whatsoever. |
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SBlive! 5.1 9700 pro Linksys NIC 56k v92 modem LS-120 DVD-ROM CD-RW HDD Chasis fan to the guy (edit: Wild Bill, plus same thing for gravioli) who said had no problems with same power; you're using P4 not Athlon, so have an extra 12V connection from PSU Last edited by Captain Beige : Sep 10, 2002 at 05:53 PM. |
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![]() KR7A-RAID 9n bois 400 watt sparkle - all going great! 300 watt sparkle = no go abit KD7 default bios 400 watt sparkle - all going great! 300 watt sparkle = no go
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![]() 431watt enermax everything just peachy, and system is quiter then a whisper... Matter of fact, my harddrive is fregging annoying! |
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![]() That sparkle ps, these are good ratings for it? I can pick it up cheap from Pacificsolutions. http://www.partshelf.com/sparpow400wa.html I know nill about Power supplies. |
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![]() I disagree with Antec power supplies being not that good. Unless your refering to the ones that aren't "True Power". Here are my specs and everything runs GREAT: Antec True Power 330 Watt MSI KT3- Ultra 2 w/5.5 bios version Incidentally here are the components that are running off that power supply: 3 HDD's, DVD, CD burner, and 4 case fans. Quality not Quantity is the order of the day. Ran 4 loops of 3Dmark 2001 se with NO lockups or stutters. ![]() ![]() |
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![]() Enermax 431W Whipser with gold plated connectors 4 harddrives, 2 of them in RAID 0 2 NICs, Audigy, RAdeon 9700 duh! 2 cdroms, and like 16 fans ![]() Works perfectly |
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![]() So far, so good with 550w Antec Tru-Power PSU ECS K7S5A Motherboard / BIOS 6/26/02
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![]() Antec 300w-yeah sure, laugh all you want, but it's working ![]() MSI KT3 Ultra2-R
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![]() I am using an allied 400w psu and so far its working just fine. I have the latest bios for my motherboard as well. |
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A great amount of the power usage will come from your 3.3 and 5 V rail and they won't be rated near the nominal wattage combined. Also, they are not the only parts pulling power. So here is the problem: you system might require ~200 W on the 3.3 and 5 V rail combined. OK, perhaps your 300W PSU can do it, but can it do it with tight tolerance? MOST can not. That is why PC Power and Cooling and the new Antec True Powers (and the new Vantec) should be so useful--high wattage with tighter voltage regulation. I have had mediocre luck with an Enermax 430W myself. My old Antec 400 W Smart Power outperforms it on the boards I've tested. The Enermax does seem OK with overclocked 1.4 GHz and with an AthlonXP 2100+, but I question whether or not it could support the 9700 on my system.
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![]() I really really hope that my 431W Enermax VE will be suffecient for the card... I will kiss Woody Allens arse if it is too weak :/ |
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![]() Antec 430 watt True Power. My 5 and 12 volt lines don't fluctuate at all. I also have a p4 1.6a @ 2.5 ghz with DDR running at 412. Everything is beautiful. |
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![]() Does anyone know if Herolchi's produce much noise? |
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![]() Stated this in another thread, but here it is again.... CompUSA boxed 500watt Power Supply (Antec reboxed special) Soyo K7V DRAGON + AMD XP 2000+ 512MB Mushkin DDR 1 WD 40GB 1 IBM 40GB 1 Maxtor 40GB 1 Maxtor 60GB 1 Pioneer DVR-104 1 24X10X40 CDRW (ricoh rebadge) 2 120mm Fans 1 80mm fan 1 blue neon 2 blacklights no problem with all turned on, even have no problems with lights on when I powerup. |
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![]() Using PC Power and Cooling 425ATX (425W) and everything runs great. Never had a problem with it since the PSU upgrade (fixed 8500 problems with Epox 8KHA+). System is the first one in the sig....plus 4 system fans, and a cold cathode light inside. I have experienced NO lockups on the 9700!
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