W2K_performance_and_Radeon:)))))

bos · Sep 3, 1999, 09:58 AM

Really screwed up my Win2K. BSOD's. Reverted to original state within 5 minutes. These dll's are crapola if you ask me.

Xenomorph_pl · Mar 5, 2001, 11:55 AM

Low FPS in w2k?
Poor performance?
Try this:
0.Install DX8 and DX8a
1.Download DX8beta140
2.Unpack for example to c:\temp
3.Copy d3dim700.dll from unpacked DX8beta140 to c:\winnt\system32\dllcache and c:\winnt\system32
4. w2k should try to recover this file
5. press cancel and do not any recovery
6. restart windows
7. try 3dmark2000 (for example high polygon count)
8. try UT with new D3DDrv.dll
9.

))))))))))))
adamd@grafik.3d.pl
PIII 866, 320MB, I820 - 4879 3dmarks in 1024x768x16

Paddy · Mar 5, 2001, 12:06 PM

What about making that d3dim700.dll available for download ?
If you mail it to paddy@io-labs.com it'll be online within a few minutes !
Thanks man !

Temjin · Mar 5, 2001, 12:49 PM

I haven't been able to give this a try yet, but I will soon.

I just have a couple of questions for you. How did you come about this thing? What exactly does it do/why does it work?

Mostly just out of curiousity. I suppose if it really works then I wont care why.

Temjin

Paddy · Mar 5, 2001, 12:49 PM

For the adventurous who want to try it :
http://www.io-labs.com/paddy/d3dim700.zip

BB88 · Mar 5, 2001, 01:00 PM

does it really work?

DuSTman · Mar 5, 2001, 01:45 PM

Well, i tried it, and yes. It works.

It doesn't seem to help much on things that are fill rate limited but the Transform and lighting is waay sped up by this.. It's amazing, with the regular d3d dll the 3dmark high polygon thing gets really jerky with lost of lights, but with this.. Smooth as hell.

As far as i can tell it hasn't done a great deal to my ailing UT framerate.

BB88 · Mar 5, 2001, 02:06 PM

I just tried it too. Yes it works, at least in 3DMark. Things are alot smoother, and the 3DMark score is comparable to Win9x now.

Shrink · Mar 5, 2001, 02:26 PM

Same here - I used the Generic (speed) profile from RadeonTweaker and got 4662 (default benchmark) with no overclocking and no other tweaks. Next stop: powerstrip!

Will report back...

Fisu · Mar 5, 2001, 02:28 PM

Definate 3dmark speed increase, but has anyone tried any games? My only d3d T&L game is Giants and cant say to see any difference.

revolver · Mar 5, 2001, 02:35 PM

Man I hope this works, can't wait to get off of work to try it! This has been what I've been working on ever since I bought this cards (Win2K perforamce). Since I run a SMP system I need to run Win2K which the drivers for are crap. I orginally bought this card to see if it fixed a problem I was having which turned out to be something else and now I'm stuck with it hehe.. but it's turning out not to be so bad, escpecially if this works

Shrink · Mar 5, 2001, 02:43 PM

Well, overclocked to 189mhz and got 5150:-)

I need to try some games now. I wonder where the bugs are with this older version?

Chimley · Mar 5, 2001, 03:07 PM

Gave it a shot

I will say this.. the new D3D Renderer in UT now works .. but it's too dark. I did notice a FPS increase with my regular D3D in UT tho

Will have to test some more..

What settings should I try with 3DMark??

Shrink · Mar 5, 2001, 03:19 PM

Download Radeon Tweaker (check the front page of rage3d) and load the Generic (Speed) profile.

DuSTman · Mar 5, 2001, 03:55 PM

What's the story on this d3d dll anyway?

Is it from another version of the dx8 redist that will be launched, featuring some lower latencies? dx8b, perhaps?

Is it from a release candidate for the directX redist that was pipped to the post by another for some reason..

What murky past lies behind this speed demon dll...?

Tellerve · Mar 5, 2001, 04:12 PM

Is the dllcache another folder in the system32 folder? If it is I don't have it and that well, worries me.

Any thoughts?

Tellerve

Shrink · Mar 5, 2001, 04:31 PM

You have it - however, it is marked as a hidden directory. Use explorer to navigate there after unselecting all the options concerning hiding system files. Make sure you rename the old one with .bak extension in case you want to revert back.

This .dll came from a beta of dx8.

Spawn · Mar 5, 2001, 05:25 PM

eh excuse me guys - but could someone help me with that special ut d3d.dll file ??? or are we just talking about the d3dim700.dll ??

Shrink · Mar 5, 2001, 05:40 PM

Just that one file. There is a link in this thread for it.

Shrink

tuco · Mar 5, 2001, 05:50 PM

fantastic stuff

, in CMR2 i can turn cubic mapping on @1280x960 everything maxed(win2k 3114) & its smoooooooooth

.

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bos Newbie Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Utrecht, Netherlands Posts: 5	Really screwed up my Win2K. BSOD's. Reverted to original state within 5 minutes. These dll's are crapola if you ask me.

Mar 5, 2001, 11:55 AM	#2
Xenomorph_pl Newbie Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Poland Posts: 21	Low FPS in w2k? Poor performance? Try this: 0.Install DX8 and DX8a 1.Download DX8beta140 2.Unpack for example to c:\temp 3.Copy d3dim700.dll from unpacked DX8beta140 to c:\winnt\system32\dllcache and c:\winnt\system32 4. w2k should try to recover this file 5. press cancel and do not any recovery 6. restart windows 7. try 3dmark2000 (for example high polygon count) 8. try UT with new D3DDrv.dll 9. )))))))))))) adamd@grafik.3d.pl PIII 866, 320MB, I820 - 4879 3dmarks in 1024x768x16 Last edited by Xenomorph_pl : Mar 5, 2001 at 11:59 AM.

Mar 5, 2001, 12:06 PM	#3
Paddy Wild Coder Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Woippy, France Posts: 428	What about making that d3dim700.dll available for download ? If you mail it to paddy@io-labs.com it'll be online within a few minutes ! Thanks man ! __________________ Patrick "Paddy" Pausé Software Engineer & Beer Tester "Playing a game, having a bug ..."

Mar 5, 2001, 12:49 PM	#5
Paddy Wild Coder Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Woippy, France Posts: 428	For the adventurous who want to try it : http://www.io-labs.com/paddy/d3dim700.zip __________________ Patrick "Paddy" Pausé Software Engineer & Beer Tester "Playing a game, having a bug ..."

Mar 5, 2001, 01:00 PM	#6
BB88 Radeon HD 6870 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 231	does it really work? __________________ ASUS P4S8X P4 2.4A (C1) @ 3.0GHz Samsung DDR333 512MB x2 ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB Acer AT3705-DTV Sound Blaster Audigy 2

Mar 5, 2001, 12:49 PM	#4
Temjin Newbie Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 15	I haven't been able to give this a try yet, but I will soon. I just have a couple of questions for you. How did you come about this thing? What exactly does it do/why does it work? Mostly just out of curiousity. I suppose if it really works then I wont care why. Temjin

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Mar 5, 2001, 01:45 PM	#7
DuSTman Radeon HD 6670 Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 35	Well, i tried it, and yes. It works. It doesn't seem to help much on things that are fill rate limited but the Transform and lighting is waay sped up by this.. It's amazing, with the regular d3d dll the 3dmark high polygon thing gets really jerky with lost of lights, but with this.. Smooth as hell. As far as i can tell it hasn't done a great deal to my ailing UT framerate.

Mar 5, 2001, 02:06 PM	#8
BB88 Radeon HD 6870 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Canada Posts: 231	I just tried it too. Yes it works, at least in 3DMark. Things are alot smoother, and the 3DMark score is comparable to Win9x now. __________________ ASUS P4S8X P4 2.4A (C1) @ 3.0GHz Samsung DDR333 512MB x2 ATI Radeon 9800Pro 128MB Acer AT3705-DTV Sound Blaster Audigy 2

Mar 5, 2001, 02:26 PM	#9
Shrink Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bracebridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,739	Same here - I used the Generic (speed) profile from RadeonTweaker and got 4662 (default benchmark) with no overclocking and no other tweaks. Next stop: powerstrip! Will report back... __________________ Shrink "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" George W. Bush - Florence, SC 1/11/00 System Specs: P4 3.2C @ 3.6 ghz; Asus P4C800-E Deluxe mobo; BBA X850XT; 2 GB Kingston DDR; SB X-Fi Gamer; 2 WD 250GB HD; Plextor 712a; Sapphire Theatrix ATI Theater 550 PCI card; BenQ FP2091 LCD; and WinXP MCE2005

Mar 5, 2001, 02:28 PM	#10
Fisu Radeon HD 6870 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Finland Posts: 248	Definate 3dmark speed increase, but has anyone tried any games? My only d3d T&L game is Giants and cant say to see any difference.

Mar 5, 2001, 02:35 PM	#11
revolver Radeon HD 6770 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 71	Man I hope this works, can't wait to get off of work to try it! This has been what I've been working on ever since I bought this cards (Win2K perforamce). Since I run a SMP system I need to run Win2K which the drivers for are crap. I orginally bought this card to see if it fixed a problem I was having which turned out to be something else and now I'm stuck with it hehe.. but it's turning out not to be so bad, escpecially if this works __________________ ABIT VP6 2x P3-700 @ 987 256MB Crucial PC133 CAS2 Radeon 64MB VIVO @ 200mhz Hercules Game Theater XP Windows XP Build 2462

Mar 5, 2001, 02:43 PM	#12
Shrink Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bracebridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,739	Well, overclocked to 189mhz and got 5150:-) I need to try some games now. I wonder where the bugs are with this older version? __________________ Shrink "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" George W. Bush - Florence, SC 1/11/00 System Specs: P4 3.2C @ 3.6 ghz; Asus P4C800-E Deluxe mobo; BBA X850XT; 2 GB Kingston DDR; SB X-Fi Gamer; 2 WD 250GB HD; Plextor 712a; Sapphire Theatrix ATI Theater 550 PCI card; BenQ FP2091 LCD; and WinXP MCE2005

Mar 5, 2001, 03:07 PM	#13
Chimley Radeon HD 6770 Join Date: Nov 2000 Posts: 59	Gave it a shot I will say this.. the new D3D Renderer in UT now works .. but it's too dark. I did notice a FPS increase with my regular D3D in UT tho Will have to test some more.. What settings should I try with 3DMark??

Mar 5, 2001, 03:19 PM	#14
Shrink Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bracebridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,739	Download Radeon Tweaker (check the front page of rage3d) and load the Generic (Speed) profile. __________________ Shrink "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" George W. Bush - Florence, SC 1/11/00 System Specs: P4 3.2C @ 3.6 ghz; Asus P4C800-E Deluxe mobo; BBA X850XT; 2 GB Kingston DDR; SB X-Fi Gamer; 2 WD 250GB HD; Plextor 712a; Sapphire Theatrix ATI Theater 550 PCI card; BenQ FP2091 LCD; and WinXP MCE2005

Mar 5, 2001, 03:55 PM	#15
DuSTman Radeon HD 6670 Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 35	What's the story on this d3d dll anyway? Is it from another version of the dx8 redist that will be launched, featuring some lower latencies? dx8b, perhaps? Is it from a release candidate for the directX redist that was pipped to the post by another for some reason.. What murky past lies behind this speed demon dll...?

Mar 5, 2001, 04:12 PM	#16
Tellerve Newbie Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 24	Is the dllcache another folder in the system32 folder? If it is I don't have it and that well, worries me. Any thoughts? Tellerve

Mar 5, 2001, 04:31 PM	#17
Shrink Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bracebridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,739	You have it - however, it is marked as a hidden directory. Use explorer to navigate there after unselecting all the options concerning hiding system files. Make sure you rename the old one with .bak extension in case you want to revert back. This .dll came from a beta of dx8. __________________ Shrink "Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning?" George W. Bush - Florence, SC 1/11/00 System Specs: P4 3.2C @ 3.6 ghz; Asus P4C800-E Deluxe mobo; BBA X850XT; 2 GB Kingston DDR; SB X-Fi Gamer; 2 WD 250GB HD; Plextor 712a; Sapphire Theatrix ATI Theater 550 PCI card; BenQ FP2091 LCD; and WinXP MCE2005

Mar 5, 2001, 05:25 PM	#18
Spawn Radeon HD 6770 Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 64	eh excuse me guys - but could someone help me with that special ut d3d.dll file ??? or are we just talking about the d3dim700.dll ?? __________________ ---------------------------------- PIII-700@868 Abit BX-133RAID 768 MB pc133ram 4x40 GB IBM HD Pioneer 16xDVD Plextor 8/32i scsiburner Plextor 12/10/32A ideburner SB Live / SourroundSpeakers this sig was automatically shortened to meet the 10-lines max rule

Mar 5, 2001, 05:40 PM	#19
Shrink Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Bracebridge, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,739	Just that one file. There is a link in this thread for it. Shrink

Mar 5, 2001, 05:50 PM	#20
tuco Radeon HD 6950 Join Date: May 1999 Location: out there. Posts: 442	fantastic stuff, in CMR2 i can turn cubic mapping on @1280x960 everything maxed(win2k 3114) & its smoooooooooth.

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