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Old Jan 28, 2012, 08:28 AM   #31
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Is AMD still using the RealTek HD Audio for HDMI sound? Maybe there needs to be some updated drivers???

Check this list....

http://www.realtek.com/downloads/dow...&GetDown=false

Click to Accept, then Next....and browse the list.
I already tried those drivers, they install fine, but the AV receiver is not detected. I have been googling and it looks loke there are tons of problems with HDMI audio, so I guess I'm just unlucky. Next week I'll get my new CPU so I will finally install my new computer (already got an X79 motherboard, memory and so on). I will try everyting again on that new motherboard, maybe I will have better luck then. Anyway I will keep trying things this weekend.
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If/when you go buy a receiver just go to a reputable shop and tell the guy u want it for a pc setup, if it dont work im returning it.
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What do you mean with "the entire chain"?. The 7970 is connected to the AV receiver via HDMI, and the AV receiver output goes to the monitor using the HDMI->DVI adapter. If I turn off the AV receiver, the monitor goes black. When I switch from the different HDMI inputs on the receiver, the input where the 7970 is conected is the only one that turns on the HDMI light. So I think everything is properly connected.

Here is my device manager, I don't know what is this "Dispositivo de audio USB" (USB audio device), I don't have any USB audio devices connected to my computer (EDIT: it's the webcam lol). Realtek high definition audio is the motherboard sound, and I gues the middle item is the Radeon HDMI.

Maybe you've installed a device that doesn't exist (this is possible at least in XP, not sure about win7), and possibly the device you need is w/o the needed driver.

My ancient system has an onboard solution that's also identified as "USB audio" or similar, although I believe that such name is replaced after installing the needed driver (if necessary I'll turn it on to see). In short, are you sure that "Dispositivo de High Definition Audio" (HD Audio Device) corresponds to the mobo onboard audio? It could be the 7970 audio, and the "audio USB" the mobo's. If such, you could try updating the driver instead of installing a new one. You can google the vendor, device, subdevice etc id's to see.

I vaguely recalled that I needed to install my vcard's audio device to clean my Device Manager from yellow things, what I got with a driver downloaded from AMD (not from Realtek, in that age I wasn't even aware that the thing was Realtek). I have gone now to my ATI drivers folder and found the file 10-12_xp32-64_hdmiaudio.exe , but none for Vista (that I have) or win7. I've googled for more modern ones and for win7/Vista and the same: 11-12_xp32-64_hdmiaudio.exe but none for Vista or Windows 7. Likely I didn't need any and it's not needed (if it matters, I'm using Catalyst 9.11 in Vista and XP for compatibility with an ancient game, and I have a single 4890; I have never used HDMI or a vcard's audio, my monitor is connected to the 4890 via DVI and my sound stuff to the mobo).

So, if you cannot find a 11-12_vista_win7_32-64_hdmiaudio.exe or similar from AMD, I'd try with the latest WHQL Catalyst. Custom install, skip any 3d thing and install the audio or hdmi component or whatever name. Now that I think of it, possibly your 7970's best driver has it too but go to custom install just in case.



I've got an "AMD High Definition Audio Device" (4890) besides the "Realtek High Definition Audio" (mobo). I also have irrelevant stuff from a Sound Blaster card and a TV card. I'll post how does this look like under Vista in a minute... Here I am:



Much more clear. In order: "ATI High Definition Audio Device" ("ATI" instead of "AMD" likely because this comes from my Cat 9.11's instead of 10.12 like in XP), TV device, Sound Blaster gameport, Sound Blaster 3rd party driver (card too ancient for a Vista official driver) and motherboard Realtek sound. So in first place you shouldn't have 3 devices unless you have something else besides 7970 and mobo sound...
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That USB device was my webcam, I already found it out. Anyway I have done another test: completely disable onboard Realtek audio from BIOS, so HDMI audio is the only audio device on my system.



After it I have reinstalled Windows, just installed Intel inf drivers and Catalyst driver (SSAA preview for 7970). But it still doesn't work and I can't think of anything else to try. It must be a problem of this AV receiver, I have removed one of my 7970s and I have tried HDMI audio on both of them separately.

I have read tons of horror stories about HDMI audio, it looks like it's some kind of lottery, it works perfectly for some people and it's a nigthmare for others. Maybe this Yamaha receiver is too cheap, I don't know.

I want to buy an AV receiver with 5.1 analog inputs, but it looks like very few today's receivers include them, only the most expensive ones. I have found old receivers without HD audio formats, but I want one with everything: DTS HD, Dolby True HD, HDMI 1.4 for 3D passthrough and 5.1/7.1 analog input. I have found a couple of them at online stores, but I don't know what to do. I can't imagine myself spending a lot of money in one of those receivers to find out that my Radeon 7970 can't send HDMI audio to it. It would be a disaster.
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That USB device was my webcam, I already found it out. Anyway I have done another test: completely disable onboard Realtek audio from BIOS, so HDMI audio is the only audio device on my system.



After it I have reinstalled Windows, just installed Intel inf drivers and Catalyst driver (SSAA preview for 7970). But it still doesn't work and I can't think of anything else to try. It must be a problem of this AV receiver, I have removed one of my 7970s and I have tried HDMI audio on both of them separately.

I have read tons of horror stories about HDMI audio, it looks like it's some kind of lottery, it works perfectly for some people and it's a nigthmare for others. Maybe this Yamaha receiver is too cheap, I don't know.

I want to buy an AV receiver with 5.1 analog inputs, but it looks like very few today's receivers include them, only the most expensive ones. I have found old receivers without HD audio formats, but I want one with everything: DTS HD, Dolby True HD, HDMI 1.4 for 3D passthrough and 5.1/7.1 analog input. I have found a couple of them at online stores, but I don't know what to do. I can't imagine myself spending a lot of money in one of those receivers to find out that my Radeon 7970 can't send HDMI audio to it. It would be a disaster.
Go with a local shop were u can do an easy exchange if it doesnt work or go with a denon
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I have been on all local shops, the cheapest AV receiver with 5.1 analog inputs and all bells & whistles was €799. Local shops are really limited in this part of Spain.
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I have been on all local shops, the cheapest AV receiver with 5.1 analog inputs and all bells & whistles was €799. Local shops are really limited in this part of Spain.
Ouch that price is painful, altho i paid a bit more for mine that tho but that was when it came out. What are your online options like?
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Right now I'm very tempted to buy the Harman Kardon AVR 360, it has all the features I need:

- HDMI 1.4 (1.3 by default, upgradeable via software update)
- DTS HD and TrueHD support
- Analog 7.1 input

I have found it online for €475
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H&K make some nice equipment, cant go wrong with that
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When I used to run the audio from my 5770 via HDMI through my Denon AVR, I had to disable all other in bios(which you've done), I also had to install a driver specifically for the Audio portion of the 5770(I think I tried the realtek as well) to get it to work.
It wouldn't work unless a did that no matter what else i tried.....I'm gonna look for the file.
Mind you, that was on XP, but it sounds like the same problem.
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I have 2 files I downloaded after I got my 5700, 1 was a realtek driver Labeled HDMI_R255(I think this is an older version of the link I put below), and another WDM driver that's labeled WDM_R258_ not sure which 1 I actually used.
I also had to enable the HDMI audio in device manager/ATI HDMI Audio, andf I had to go into the sound properties tab in the control panel, and look for the hdmi connection, enable that 1 and disable all the rest. It was a bit of a pita IIRC, but after I did those few things it worked fine. The problem I had with the ATi hdmi, is it seemed that I had little control over the audio levels per channel, so I stopped using it.

Did you DL the ATi HDMI driver?

You should be able to find it here, agree and go to the next page and the 3rd thing down will be Ati HDMI Audio Device- pick a download site to the right- it's a 20 MB dl. I ran that, then made sure that it was enabled and all others disabled and it worked....taking a bit to remember it all.
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@muzz: If I'm understanding the problem correctly, it's not just that there's no audio, it's that the device, itself, is not being recognized by Windows even though it's plugged in. There's not even an "Unknown Device" designation if I'm correct. So, it's not the drivers that are the problem.

Again, I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong, but that's how I understand this problem.
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Dyre Straits is completely right. The HDMI driver is installed and it works. I have tried both the AMD and the Realtek drivers and they both work. However the AV receiver is not detected at all, no matter what I try. Windows says that the device is not plugged.
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Do you have a different HDMI cable to try?
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I think he did Jim. I think on this one its a receiver issue as others are posting on avsforum about similar probs. Might be something yamaha can fix on there end with a fw update.
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Yup I tried with three different cables, the two cables that came with the 7970s and another one (1.4) that connects a BluRay driver to this Yamaha receiver. I don't know why, but I have the feeling that the DRM craps that surrounds the HDMI interface could be related to those problems.

This week I will be buying my new AV and a set of speakers, I was thinking in the Harman Kardon AVR 360, but maybe I will spend more money and buy a better one, after all it should last for a lot of years. It will probably be the Marantz SR-5006, price is around €700 but its specs are gorgeous. I hope I can connect it to my 7970 with no problems, but I will be using the 5.1 analog input too.
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After crying tears for my defunct Logitech Z-5500 speakers, I have finally ordered a receiver / speakers combo. This time I want to get away from computer speakers so I'm buying a decent Home Cinema setup. It hasn't been easy to find an AV receiver with multichannel analog inputs (need them if I have to use the integrated X-Fi on my motherboard) so I have finally purchased the Onkyo TX-NR709.





And for speakers I have chosen the KEF KHT 2005.3 K1, they are small and cute, and they sound terrific, incredible for that size.



Around €1200, so I hope they will last me forever. I will receive them this Friday, I will let you know if this receiver likes the HDMI output of my 7970.
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After crying tears for my defunct Logitech Z-5500 speakers, I have finally ordered a receiver / speakers combo. This time I want to get away from computer speakers so I'm buying a decent Home Cinema setup. It hasn't been easy to find an AV receiver with multichannel analog inputs (need them if I have to use the integrated X-Fi on my motherboard) so I have finally purchased the Onkyo TX-NR709.





And for speakers I have chosen the KEF KHT 2005.3 K1, they are small and cute, and they sound terrific, incredible for that size.



Around €1200, so I hope they will last me forever. I will receive them this Friday, I will let you know if this receiver likes the HDMI output of my 7970.
Looks like a nice setup. A good receiver and speakers will last a long time, expensive now but not something u need to upgrade every year or 2.
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I'm getting the receiver tomorrow and after reading this I'm scared:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1038331967

Another user with the same problem than me, and also with a Sapphire 7970. He says he didn't have any problems with other graphics cards using the same Onkyo TX-SR507 receiver.

Higgy10, what's the manufacturer of your 7970? I'm wondering if this is a Sapphire problem. I've tried both of my 7970s and none of them worked with the Yamaha receiver.
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I'm getting the receiver tomorrow and after reading this I'm scared:

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1038331967

Another user with the same problem than me, and also with a Sapphire 7970. He says he didn't have any problems with other graphics cards using the same Onkyo TX-SR507 receiver.

Higgy10, what's the manufacturer of your 7970? I'm wondering if this is a Sapphire problem. I've tried both of my 7970s and none of them worked with the Yamaha receiver.
Hmm that doesnt look to promising lol. I have xfx models myself. I wonder if it is a hdmi 1.4 issue like that one poster suggests. I cant see it being a sapphire problem since all reference cards are identical but stranger things have happened. I wonder too if amd has changed the audio controller on the 7970 from previous models and thats causing the prob.
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Perhaps spyre or caveman might be able to enlighten us. The audio controller hardware i mean. I suspect that is has been changed since previous gens as i dont recall older cards having one sound icon in the cp for each dp and hdmi port. Not sure if audio passthru on displayport was even possible in previous gens.
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The Yamaha receiver I tried was HDMI 1.4a, and the Onkyo I have bought is also HDMI 1.4a. Could the 7970s be incompatible with HDMI 1.4a???

EDIT: The receiver this guy is using (Onkyo TX-SR507) is not 1.4a but 1.3a.

What HDMI version uses your receiver Higgy10?
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Bug maybe, shouldnt be incompatible. 1.4 is needed for 3d also
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Your AV receiver (Denon AVR 2808) uses HDMI 1.3a, just like the Onkyo TX-SR507 this guy is using, so the problem shouldn't be related to HDMI.

Can't wait to have my receiver tomorrow. If it doesn't work... I will be really sad.
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Your AV receiver (Denon AVR 2808) uses HDMI 1.3a, just like the Onkyo TX-SR507 this guy is using, so the problem shouldn't be HDMI version related.
Thats good at least. So its a either a amd or realtek driver issue most likely
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Perhaps spyre or caveman might be able to enlighten us. The audio controller hardware i mean. I suspect that is has been changed since previous gens as i dont recall older cards having one sound icon in the cp for each dp and hdmi port. Not sure if audio passthru on displayport was even possible in previous gens.
Same audio hardware but updated capabilities. The 5000 launched with HDMI audio, better than the 4000 series. Over time that updated to include DP audio as well (driver update), which remained unchanged when the 6000 series launched.

The 7000 series added positional audio capabilities. Each capable connected display can have it's own audio. Play a game on one display and have a movie on another, and if they have audio capable connections, the right audio goes with them.
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Same audio hardware but updated capabilities. The 5000 launched with HDMI audio, better than the 4000 series. Over time that updated to include DP audio as well (driver update), which remained unchanged when the 6000 series launched.

The 7000 series added positional audio capabilities. Each capable connected display can have it's own audio. Play a game on one display and have a movie on another, and if they have audio capable connections, the right audio goes with them.
Interesting stuff, so ppl having issues with hdmi audio its most likely driver related then.
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It's the driver. Had the same problem, but i did get sound working. Just don't rember how i did it. If i'm not wrong i installed the audio driver before Catalyst driver. And it's important to remove everything if you uninstall Catalyst drivers. This time i had seriuos trouble. Sorry for my bad english here

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I have just installed my Onkyo receiver and I'm happy to report that it works perfectly (with default AMD driver). Now I need to configure and fine tune it, but I'm sooooooo happy...



Now I need to find out why the monitor connected to the HDMI output of the receiver goes black from time to time, I also see small green dots on that monitor.
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the display blank and green dots sounds like bad cable, don't know how new/good the cables are.
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