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Can someone post comparison shots between the unmodded game and this version of it? For some reason, vanilla GTA IV looks better to me.
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http://www.gtagarage.com/mods/show.php?id=7008 you tried that? the rar file has files for the episodes of liberty city too.
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Ok tried it all and yes it makes a difference but the better for me was just the Visual IV 1.6.1 mod as adding the new textures lost me quite a few fps for not a massive gain in viewing pleasure. Sure it looks a bit better using the increased textures but the popups and loss of frames made it painful to play. Make sure you backup all your files before you copy the files over.
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Thanx for sharing ![]()
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Tried these a while ago, I like the vanilla version more. I'm moving my efforts to downloading thet reallifsis v2 mode now ![]() ![]() |
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fps hit is there, but its jsut a couple of fps.Im talking about liberty city episodes though, not gta 4.
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Any chance you can give links to the original thread and downloads please? |
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Any trick to install it? I just dragged the EFLC folder on top of my current one and let them merge and do its thing. Everything went into its correct folder. What am doing wrong?
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Last edited by Phrygian : May 4, 2010 at 03:26 PM. |
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Got it working. Some nice improvements, worth the little trouble I went though to get working.
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Currently Playing: Everything To Play List: Everything else Last edited by zebra 204 : May 4, 2010 at 06:28 PM. |
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and indeed it does make the game much sharper looking. even when you turn on the xbox brul crap it is still sharper thn anything in vanilla mode. im keeping this mod for my playthrough of the episodes.
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I started to install the visual IV mod but the instructions stated I needed a program to merge a graphic file and that program stated it was not compatible with the current version of gta4? |
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"Crap port by lazy devs" makes no sense in that context. The devs chose to pack more stuff in at the cost of frames. It was their choice. The alternative would have been to have less stuff and not the game they wanted people to play. PC users are better off because if they want to they can choose to lower the settings. We also get a replay mode , Independence FM and seamless transition between KBM and Controller usage. Small things, but nice to have. The tech in R* games has always seemed to play second fiddle to the content, no denying that. Oh wait ground-breaking Euphoria physics, oh wait one of the best looking games of this gen, oh wait day/night cycle means no static lighting, oh wait open world so everything mus be streamed, etc etc. Still, the resources spent on the content appears to surpass the resources spent on the technology, as it probably should, particularly in a game of this nature. Just Cause 2 is the only open world game I can think of that doesn't have performance issues. All credit to the devs for that achievement. The mold had to be broken eventually, and it took us 'til 2010 to do it. It is fair to criticize games for performance issues, but it's probably more fair to blame the state of the current technology rather than 'dev laziness'. You can't just magic an engine out of thin air that has all the refinements that people are going to think of for the next 20 years in it. Having said that though, I wonder how a tweaked JC2 engine would cope with all the GTA4 content? I'm guessing not nearly as well as it does with the content it has, but possibly a little better than GTA4. You want all that GTA4 offers on a two year old engine? You pay for it with sketchy framerates.
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lol @ posting screens downsized by over 4x from the original resolution to show off the games graphics.
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u mean reading his own admission that the shots are downsized by over 4x from the orig res?
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Yes, the same post that states that the game doesn't look exactly like that, because the image host downsampled the pics. Anyway, I bought a 1360x768 monitor, it accepts 1080p resolution though, so I just run it at the higher res, automatic downsampling Works great for games that don't support AA. |
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except, modders have managed to make the game look much better on the pc with little performance loss. which means the headroom to do it exists, and the rockstar devs either didn't know about it or didn't care about it enough to utilize it. both reflect poorly on them. |
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Well without being on the Dev team I can't say but there is definitely different qualities of code and a piece of bad code can run many times slower then a piece of good code that does the exact same thing. From my experience in engineering I am guessing it went something like this... Programmer: We finished the game and it doesn't crash and there are not any bugs. The frame rate is a little slow right now though. Do you want us to spend an indefinite period of time to make it better? Manager: Is it higher then 30 FPS on the consoles? Programmer: Yes Manager: Ship it. Programmer: What about the PC gamers Manager: Only hard core gamers are going to play this on the PC and they will be glad for the excuse to upgrade. At any rate I wouldn't go around blaming the hardware. It is the job of the developer to fit a game into the performance envelope of the target platform. I think they just assumed only hardcore gamers were going to bother playing it on the PC or people who played it long after it came out. In either case those people they probably expected to have plenty of CPU power. I wouldn't say they were lazy either. It was probably a business decision to get the game out on time and not delay it for however long it would take to streamline all that code.
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It means the code running the engine is bloated on PC. I seem to remember hearing that some of GTA:IV's PC code is just emulated 360 code. Hence the massive boosts from more CPU power v.s. tiny boosts from extra graphics power.
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"the actual game looks nothing like these massively downsized shots" you would have a point
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Here are 2 comparison shots, comparing a couple shots on page 1, reduced by Photobucket to half the res, versus the original res shots (1920x1080) that I just uploaded to Imageshack: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You be the judge, even when blown up, it looks amazingly crisp and clear for the most part. Last edited by thomaskingx1 : May 4, 2010 at 11:58 PM. |
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I downloaded a torrent that has the Realism IV mod combined with the Ultimate Textures v2.0 mod and I am wondering which folder the textures are in so I can just use them. edit: Are the folders inside pc/data/maps all I need and should I include the "generic" folder?
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Another pair of comparison shots: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Tell me that doesn't hold up incredibly well, especially on the 2nd shot, where it looks nearly flawless. Also the higher res shots look sharper and more vibrant than the resized ones. Last edited by thomaskingx1 : May 4, 2010 at 11:58 PM. |
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