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Old Mar 31, 2010, 12:02 AM   #1
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ATI Technologies Rage3D Review: ATI Radeon HD 5870 2GB Review - to Eyefinity and Beyond!

How do you modernize a Caveman? You drop 12 megapixels of high-definition gaming glory in front of him and let rip with DirectX 11. Rage3D is proud to present our investigation into the AMD ATI Radeon HD 5870 2GB Eyefinity6 graphics card, put to the test with six (count 'em!) Full HD displays!

ATI Radeon HD 5870 2GB Review - to Eyefinity and Beyond!
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Next up - CrossfireX eyefinity 6, coming soon!

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Sweet! I love to check this out. =)
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Nice article I enjoyed it, especially the non gaming info, most sites seem to gloss over this or not talk about it all for some reason. Well done. I highly doubt I will ever go full on with 6 displays but I do want the extra RAM so the 6 edition is for me. Too bad I already have 2 5870's. Ebay?

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Nice review and card, wonder what would be the best monitors to get for something like this? Also what 120hz monitors have display ports?
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Awesome review. If and when I ever obtain a setup like this, I think the seperate display groups will be invaluable. The ability to run a 3x1 setup, and use the other 3 for anything I want etc. The flexibility is just icing on the cake. This is killer tech right here.
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Great review Caveman, however this part to me is the real issue I have with Eyefinity.

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They're long gone, left when I set up Eyefinity 6 on the dining room table. I kid, I kid. As a good friend of mine said, "Your wife is very patient and understanding. If I'd set that up on my dining room table, I'd have been served papers the next day. Even on a Sunday."
Setting up 3x22" monitors is alsmost 5' of desktop space. I do not think a lot of people get just how big that is. Now if you have the money and the space I say go fot it.

Also for me personally the bevels are just to distracting period. I got to see a 3x1 setup for about 20 minutes and for me the immersion was aweful. I however think that is an individual thing. Some people might not notice while others do.
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Well, thats why I had the Eyefinity party. We got together, and found that the bezels really weren't all that bad, but games do need to have some kind of method for detecting them, hence the ADL SDK. 3x2 is whole different experience than 3x1 as well.
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"Your wife is very patient and understanding. If I'd set that up on my dining room table, I'd have been served papers the next day. Even on a Sunday."

That quote sounds familiar.

I want to thank Jim (and family) for the opportunity to experience Eyefinity and some real southern hospitality.
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Very good review of course. But I do have issues with this:

1.) Will AMD/IHV be supplying the display port adapter or adapters for this card in box as I doubt most of us have monitors with native display port. This will increase the cost substantially roughly $90 to $100 per adapter per screen So 479.00 + Cost Of Screens + Cost of Adapters. I know those buying this will have deep pockets but honestly and no lie, this is a gimmick ploy by AMD to one up Fermi, not that hard one up Fermi though with a card that has like half the power draw, less heat output and great performance per dollar. I am hoping that atleast one adapter is supplied for those running only one screen.

2.) Active or Passive display ports? Jim you mention both in your review so which one is it, from the picture provided it looks like you are using passive adapters and not active which is recommended for the 1GB version. Passive could greatly reduce the costs because I can find passives that cost $20.00 instead of $100.00.

3.) How well does this benefit the high res gamer, the tests done basically show 6 screen performance. What I'd like to know is how a 2GB 5870 would stack up to a 1GB 5870 both running on a 30" screen 2560x1200 or both running 3 screens. The more memory will of course help at higher resolutions and AA. This is of course the main selling point for a lot of us here. Dual 5870 2GB cards for a total of 4GB memory, what am I to expect performance wise compared to what I am using now. This is the review I am looking to find.

My next decision is to wether or not do Eyefinity with 3 screens, I would like to upgrade to two 2GB cards for the added 2GB memory for higher res gaming and performance. The cost of display ports could kill me though depending on which ones I need.
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Well, thats why I had the Eyefinity party. We got together, and found that the bezels really weren't all that bad, but games do need to have some kind of method for detecting them, hence the ADL SDK. 3x2 is whole different experience than 3x1 as well.
The one thing that seems to be an issue with the bezels is that they block the aim reticule in FPS like AvP. Also, some menu settings are blocked so you need to setup you game first and then turn on the expanded resolution.

Finally, in order to do thi type of setup justice, you need to be sitting away AT LEAST 10' to get all the view, otherwise you just focus on the two center screens.

This setup was a wonder to behold in person.
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http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...-322-_-Product

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Very good review of course. .
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But I do have issues with this:

1.) Will AMD/IHV be supplying the display port adapter or adapters for this card in box as I doubt most of us have monitors with native display port. This will increase the cost substantially roughly $90 to $100 per adapter per screen So 479.00 + Cost Of Screens + Cost of Adapters. I know those buying this will have deep pockets but honestly and no lie, this is a gimmick ploy by AMD to one up Fermi, not that hard one up Fermi though with a card that has like half the power draw, less heat output and great performance per dollar..
The AIB's are including 5 adapters in the box, all passive - 2 miniDisplayPort to full DisplayPort, 2 miniDP to DVI (single link), and 1 miniDP to HDMI.
Regarding as a gimmick vs. Fermi... this was first seen at AMD VISION in September 2009, and Fermi wasn't even working then - not even wood screw mockup. Release timing is slightly coincidental, and you are correct that this is an Ultra Enthusiast product.

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2.) Active or Passive display ports? Jim you mention both in your review so which one is it, from the picture provided it looks like you are using passive adapters and not active which is recommended for the 1GB version. Passive could greatly reduce the costs because I can find passives that cost $20.00 instead of $100.00.
The only reason to use and Active DisplayPort adapter is when you are converting the third or subsequent outputs to a display that needs a timing signal - DVI, VGA, HDMI. All HD 5000 can generate two display outputs with timings signals, but the third doesn't. Using DisplayPort is what enables Eyefinity as it keeps the cost of the board down (using Eyefinity 3 or 6 is niche, many people won't run 3 displays) so only the people wanting the functionality pay the extra to get it.

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3.) How well does this benefit the high res gamer, the tests done basically show 6 screen performance. What I'd like to know is how a 2GB 5870 would stack up to a 1GB 5870 both running on a 30" screen 2560x1200 or both running 3 screens. The more memory will of course help at higher resolutions and AA. This is of course the main selling point for a lot of us here. Dual 5870 2GB cards for a total of 4GB memory, what am I to expect performance wise compared to what I am using now. This is the review I am looking to find.
Remember that GPU memory is exclusive access and not cumulative, so it's 2 GPU's with 2GB they can access each. That said, I am planning a follow up looking more in detail at the extra quality modes you can use with 2GB of RAM, and with two cards.

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My next decision is to wether or not do Eyefinity with 3 screens, I would like to upgrade to two 2GB cards for the added 2GB memory for higher res gaming and performance. The cost of display ports could kill me though depending on which ones I need.
If you're only running 3 displays, then you'll only need 1 active adapter. If you're running more displays, then either buy models with native DisplayPort or buy more adapters (if you have the displays already).
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Nice to hear, nice to hear

So this is what I am looking at right now:

Monitors : BenQ E2420HD http://www.memoryexpress.com/Product...26125(ME).aspx

Display Port : Dell Display Port Adapter http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...1&sku=330-5521

If I were to upgrade to two 5870 2GB XFX models I would not require anything else because 2 screens should be able to run on the adapters provided by AIB's and the Dell would power the third screen.
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hmm can't see from this and the other 2gb 5870 review that the extra gb does much at 25x16 or below
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Its been awhile since I've heard anything on the new thin bezel screens Samsung has been working on for Eyefinity. Any word on that, or equivs from other companies?
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Weren't they producing some ultra thin bezel for this?

http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives...hin_bezel.html

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Some may find this interesting. It's a 480/470 review with a 2GB 5870 included from Techreport.

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Some may find this interesting. It's a 480/470 review with a 2GB 5870 included from Techreport.

http://techreport.com/articles.x/18682/1
Its not the Eyefinity6 card but the Asus Matrix which supposedly dosen't even exist yet.
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Its not the Eyefinity6 card but the Asus Matrix which supposedly dosen't even exist yet.
Anandtech's 5870 Eyefinity 6 (included Crossfire Eyefinity 6!) review is up.

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I still like Rage3D's article the best so far. Very thorough.
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That's a nice review! I'd have dressed nicer if I'd have known I was making my internet debut in this article . Thanks for having us over that day, the Eyefinity setup was amazing. Definitely was depressing to come home to a normal display after gaming on that all day!
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Its been awhile since I've heard anything on the new thin bezel screens Samsung has been working on for Eyefinity. Any word on that, or equivs from other companies?
They are having supply constraints and so AMD decided to forge ahead without them.
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Definitely was depressing to come home to a normal display after gaming on that all day!
, so true!
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Well, I believe we (acroig, jokerz and I) all celebrate our birthdays around the same time, would seem the perfect opportunity to get together again
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Well, I believe we (acroig, jokerz and I) all celebrate our birthdays around the same time, would seem the perfect opportunity to get together again
Sounds good to me. Maybe by then you'll have some new top secret ATi stuff for us to mess around with .
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Sounds good to me. Maybe by then you'll have some new top secret ATi stuff for us to mess around with .
Love that idea!
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