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Old Dec 17, 2009, 08:57 AM   #1
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Red face So i'm actually prefering MW2's way of multiplayer..

I like how i'm forced to try different maps and game modes in mosh pit, i like how I play different maps if i just want deathmatch

been a longtime tf2 player, and to be honest, i get bored with tf2, you join your server, endlessly play the same map because the time limit is insanely high and your friends will only ever play OrangeMap5 or somthing with a 90 minute timer.

MW2 i can have a quick game in 10 minutes easily most games are 10 or some 20 minutes long so you know when to stop, you want to stay inthe server till the end to get your match bonus and your not endlessly replaying the same map over and over again like on many popular 24/7 servers, I feel this helps because you can join a different map and be happy knowing that the other people don't just sit on this server 24/7 making it impossible to learn the maps as you just constantly get sniped from the good hiding spots

I'd like the option of dedicated servers, but in all honestly, If i had to pick between match making and dedicated servers i'd pick match making everytime from now on.

a lot of my friends who are pc gamers refuse to even try mw2, I personally feel they are afraid of the change, but then a lot of them really enjoy playing the same map endlessly infact most of my friends only ever play one server in tf2 and the only reason I play on that same server is so I can have a game with them even tho I get sick to death of the same map all the time

I feel match making could be done using dedicated servers and it would be a much better system, so far i'm not missing game mods, as in COD 4 mod'd servers I found were never that popular with new maps anyway and no one joined them because they had their favorite server anyway.

One thing I really like is your never in an empty server, theres always at least 8 people, or at least thats how it seems to work with me, no waiting around for people to join, if someone leaves often the match making replaces them very quickly

Just wondering am i the only one who actually likes it
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 09:11 AM   #2
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Umm, I'm pretty sure you are given the choice to join servers where maps are constantly rotated in TF2. No one is forcing to play on a particular server or game mode.

Choice... That's one thing MW2's multiplayer doesn't offer you.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 09:17 AM   #3
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I enjoy it as well. Just cant wait till the cheaters get banned and the hacks get locked down. I dont see why there cant be dedicated servers AND matchmaking....
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 09:30 AM   #4
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I'll prefer Bad Company 2 multi when it comes out

But yeah, I defiantly prefer shorter maps. Makes me not play as long which is good.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 09:47 AM   #5
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Bad Company 2 will be very aptly named.

Anyway being forced to play other modes for a little bit doesn't hurt, but I'd still much, much prefer dedicated servers with their consistent connection, admins, community, etc etc.

Also, 4 rounds for a win in Search & Destroy is not enough.

IWNET only works because the core gameplay is actually very good, rather than the sucky match making.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 12:49 PM   #6
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Umm, I'm pretty sure you are given the choice to join servers where maps are constantly rotated in TF2. No one is forcing to play on a particular server or game mode.

Choice... That's one thing MW2's multiplayer doesn't offer you.
90% of servers on any game older than a week are 24/7 server.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 01:21 PM   #7
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90% of servers on any game older than a week are 24/7 server.
On MW2 you had 0% deviation from the method the devs forced on you.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 03:05 PM   #8
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 07:20 PM   #9
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I don't have MW2, and I've only played split screen MW1 on a PS3 so I have a few questions

1) Is MW2 a true skill based aim FPS like Counter-Strike, Quake 3 etc?

2) If the answer to #1 is yes, how is it possible to have a positive in game experience with P2P hosting where there is going to be latency/latency prediction issues? You're going to run into idiots with torrents running in the background, horrible connections etc.

Maybe IW figured out how to engineer around those problems, but to me nothing beats playing TF2, CS, Quake, Enemy Territory etc on a high quality dedicaetd server with a ping of 40 or less, it just feels right. Regarding map selection, I've never had issues finding quality pub servers (e.g. good admins, skilled popualtion) for all games on on the west coast of North America. I don't see how MW2 can ever become a competitive game either without dedicated servers.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 07:22 PM   #10
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IW knew we pc'er would eventually turn on each other...all the way to the bank !

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Old Dec 17, 2009, 01:29 PM   #11
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No surprise that most of the people happy with matchmaking live in a certain rich, first world country.

Here's a tip: there are 6 billion people who DON'T live in first world countries where uber residential connections are available to the general populace. And you don't speak for them.

Matchmaking and P2P absolutely sucks for a multiplayer FPS game.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 02:23 PM   #12
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No surprise that most of the people happy with matchmaking live in a certain rich, first world country.

Here's a tip: there are 6 billion people who DON'T live in first world countries where uber residential connections are available to the general populace. And you don't speak for them.

Matchmaking and P2P absolutely sucks for a multiplayer FPS game.
But those people dont matter since they dont live in the certain rich first world country. Those people dont even live under a roof, do they? Every major game publisher knows that.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 09:57 AM   #13
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Just wondering am i the only one who actually likes it
No its you and the rest of the contards. Oh yeah having limited choice is so much better
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 10:08 AM   #14
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I like playing mw2 online, but I prefer the dedicated servers+server browser method, it was simply more flexible and offered you more choices.

The matchmaking system in mw2 simply limits you and makes things "easier".
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 10:21 AM   #15
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I can live with the match making. But it's not really desirable. What I dislike about it is the lack of established lines. I hate this respawn anywhere approach. Even in the objective based games, it still feels like a random spawn death match with trigger happy spazs. I tried the hardcore game type, and that was much more realistically paced. But it ended up being a "Every One's a Sniper" type of event over anything else.

I'd much like better a territory conquest type of gameplay where both sides spawn from their respective ends of the map and work towards the enemy. I just don't see the appeal of spawning in, right in front of an enemy to be killed.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 10:32 AM   #16
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the matchmaking system is alright. i hated it at first but it is steadily growing on me. the gameplay however is fantastic. i didn't think it possible, but i'm more addicted to MW2 than i was to COD4 when it released back in '07.
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i'd pick a server browser and dedicated servers over matchmaking and p2p anyday. however, once you're actually inside the game it doesn't matter at all how you got there, so i don't care about it. the gameplay in this game makes up for all the hiccups of matchmaking and then some.
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 11:06 AM   #18
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the gameplay in this game makes up for all the hiccups of matchmaking and then some.
This. People can bitch all the want but in the end the game is fun to play. It's on sale at Best Buy for $29 (PC) so there's little excuse not to get it. At $29 the SP alone makes it worthwhile.

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I tried the hardcore game type, and that was much more realistically paced. But it ended up being a "Every One's a Sniper" type of event over anything else.
That's only the myth. I play hardcore S&D a lot and only see 1 sniper per team if that.
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That's only the myth. I play hardcore S&D a lot and only see 1 sniper per team if that.
? I don't understand. How can it be a myth if I observed it first hand? That's what it was. Are you calling me a liar?

I will say that I don't play the game as much as some people do, and I've only tried that mode like twice. So perhaps it just happened that I observed an anomaly. But that doesn't mean it's mythical.
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No its you and the rest of the contards. Oh yeah having limited choice is so much better
You're so hostile.....
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Old Dec 17, 2009, 12:48 PM   #22
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No its you and the rest of the contards.
coming from a guy that loves bioshock.

but in that case the term contard doens't apply, right?

im chanign my retard in the sig to contard. contard sound much cooler
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