I am standing directly beneath the enemy's scrotum.

[VVanks]

Spoilers... like the smell of festering, rotten flesh:

Are there honestly 46 new Transformers in the movie?

I have no ****ing clue. It's impossible to tell most of them apart except for Optimus and the Racist Twins (there's another yellow Autobot who I constantly thought was Bumblebee). There could be 46, or there could be 12. I honestly would believe 12 if someone had said that.

What is the status of the Transformers at the beginning of the film?

The Autobots have joined the military to hunt down the Decepticons. We're told the Decepticons are "doing things," but they appear to be hiding peacefully when the Autobots show up and brutally murder them.

What?

Yeah. The Decepticons aren't apparently doing anything, then the Autobots show up, the Decepticons run for their goddamn lives, and the Autobots hunt them down and brutally murder them. It's kind of weird.


Why is the U.S. military helping them?

Supposedly to help keep the Transformers a secret from the public. Although since the climax of the last film was a massive firefight involving 50-foot robots and took place over five miles of downtown Los Angeles and the beginning of this film wrecks several miles of Shanghai, China, they seem to be incredibly ****ty at their job.

How does the U.S. military help them?

Well, not at all, actually. They just kind of come along with guns and stuff, and act like they're going to help, but the Autobots do all the work.

Why is the U.S. military in this movie at all, then?

Because Michael Bay has a huge erection for jets and tanks and aircraft carriers and considers giant robots only a necessary evil for the film. At least 15 full minutes of the film's 150-minute run time is nothing but footage of jets and tanks and planes without any robots or actual action whatsoever.

How is Sam Witwicky dragged back into the fight?

Well, he finds a fragment of the Allspark shard. You know, the Allspark that he spent all last movie being told he shouldn't give to Megatron, but when he gave it to Megatron, it killed Megatron. That one. Anyways, the shard makes the Beef see symbols and act like more of an spaz than usual.

So the Decepticons want the shard? Why?

Uh... to bring Megatron back to life?

What?

That's what they said.

But the Allspark killed Megatron in the first movie.

Yes.

...and now it can also bring him back to life.

It's very powerful, this Allspark.

Uh-huh. So what's their plan to get it?

They send a small R/C car who talks like Joe Pesci in Casino to get it.

Shouldn't they have sent Starscream or somebody?

Look, there's another Allspark shard and get that one anyways, so it doesn't matter.

Well, then why do they give a **** about Sam?

The symbols. In his head. That the shard of the Allspark gave him.

They weren't in the other shard?

Apparently not.

So how do the Decepticons plan to get the symbols, I guess?

Well, the Decepticons have very cunningly created a hot chick robot who they enrolled in the same college and put in the same astronomy class as Sam. And they made her a huge slut.

Wait.

Waiting.

There's a slutty Decepticon?

Yeah, she's a real ho. The Decepticons apparently have an incredibly powerful slut-making program, because she has it down, man. Anyways--

Didn't Sam touch the shard and get the symbols stuck in his head on his first day of college?

Yes.

So the Decepticons made a slutty robot to attend his college and enrolled her in classes and put her in on-campus housing just in case Sam ended up being important at some point in the future?

Apparently. It was an elaborate plan, but it sure paid off.

How so?

Well, not at all. The slut-bot made out with him for a little bit then immediately tried to kill him, neither for any apparent motive or gain.

It sounds preposterous.

Doesn't matter, because the Decepticons use the shard piece they do have to resurrect Megatron! He's back! Ooo! Scary!

Why is this scary? All he wanted was the Allspark, and now it's gone.

...because he has a boss! He's called the Fallen, because he's so evil! He has an evil plan to use a machine on Earth to blow up the sun and make energon! Or something! It's not very clear.

Now you're just making **** up as you go along, aren't you?

Best not to think too much about it. Anyways, the symbols in the Beef's head are a map to where this machine exists, so the hunt is on and Sam shortly is captured by other, less slutty Decepticons in one of the many instances where Bumblebee inexplicably abandons the Beef so he can conveniently be in trouble.
Then a robot called the Doctor who speaks gibberish with a German accent shoves things up Shia's nose and gets the symbols.

That's that, then, right? The Decepticons win?

No! Because Optimus Prime saves Sam before they cut off his head, which has another treasure inside!

Really? What is that?

No one really bothers to explain this, actually. Suffice to say, the Decepticons continue to want Sam. Oh, then Optimus Prime fights three Decepticons at once and dies.

Where the hell were the other Autobots during this fight?

I don't know. They were with him before the fight, but then they disappear and show up right after he dies. But they appear sad about Optimus dying. Marginally. I mean, they don't get any screen time or dialogue to convey any feelings or anything, but there's some sad music playing for a little bit afterwards. I assume this means the robots that are off-screen are grieving.

Well, if one shard brought Megatron back to life, can't Sam just use his shard piece to resurrect Optimus?

Yes. He could.

...
...

Well?

He doesn't.

Why not?

I'm not sure exactly.

Then what the hell does he do?

He decides get those symbols that were in his head translated to figure out what the Fallen's up to.

Which Autobot does the translating?

Err... none of them. Actually, it's John Turturro.

What. The ****.

Yeah, since he was laid off from his super-secret government agent job, he now works in a NY deli and runs a super-popular Transformers conspiracy theory website. Like ya do.

And why couldn't an Autobot translate these symbols?

Because Bumblebee is mute and the Racist Twins are poor black robots from the slums of Cybertron who never learned how to read. It's a sad commentary on Cybertronian society. Like The Wire, actually.

Where the hell are the other Autobots?

I don't know. Away. They seem to be unable to be reached. They're probably grieving about Optimnus still. Clearly, John Turturro is the reasonable solution here.

So Turturro translates the symbols.

No, that would be silly. He does, in an incredibly bizarre series of connect-the-dots, lead them to Jetfire, an elderly and deceased Transformers whose corpse is hanging out in the Air & Space Museum.

What good is he dead?!

Ah! Remember the shard? Sam uses it to bring Jetfire back to life!

Not Optimus?

No! This way, Sam can get the symbols translated... so he can, er... find the ancient machine... that can, uh... possibly bring Optimus back to life.

You have to ****ing be kidding me.

Moving on! Jetfire teleports everyone to Egypt, including some of the missing Autobots --

Wait, what? Teleports?

Yes, teleports.

Transformers don't teleport.

Jetfire does.

But -- wait a second, he's a ****ing jet. He could fly everybody to Egypt, right? And that would make perfect sense for both the character and the franchise!

Well, I guess so. But he chooses not to. The point is Jetfire teleports them all to Egypt where he explains that there used to be 7 or 8 Primes, and they traveled around the galaxy blowing up suns for energon. But they never did it on planets with life. Well, they had set the machine up on Earth and not noticed all the life running around, and one of the Primes just said **** it, let's do it anyways. This was evil, so they called that Prime the Fallen and beat the **** out of him although he escaped.

Okay...

So that other mysterious reason that the Decepticons wanted Sam's brain? It's because it contains some very vague clues about the Matrix of Leacdership, which is the device that turns on the sun-exploding machine. The Fallen needs the Matrix to blow up the sun and get his Energon.

Hold on. That's what the Matrix of Leadership does in the movie?

Yes. Works the sun-exploding machine.

I'm fuzzy on how "Leadership" covers that.

I didn't name it. But it does sound a little nicer than "Matrix of Blowing Up the Goddamn Sun." If I may continue, in order to protect the Earth, the 6-7 other Prime hid the Matrix on Earth and made a tomb with their own bodies. Isn't that cool?

...
...

No. No it is not. If they wanted to protect Earth, why did they leave the Matrix on the planet? They're a space-faring race, they could have hid it anywhere in galaxy! Second of all, what the **** does making a tomb of their own bodies do? Shouldn't they have stayed alive to protect the Matrix? Or finish off the Fallen? Or just not die and leave Earth and the entire Transformer race in jeopardy?

Uh...

And why hide the Matrix at all? Don't they need Energon to survive? Didn't they say they go to other lifeless planets? These idiot Primes just doomed their whole species for no ****ing reason whatsoever! No wonder the Decepticons are so pissed.

...ahem. Eventually, Sam and crew find the Matrix, which instantly crumbles into dust. Sam puts the dust in a sock because he thinks it will bring Optimus back to life.

Grr.

What follows is the most spectacular part of the movie, as Sam and Mikaela try to run the several miles back to the military camp during a massive Decepticon attack where the military has dropped Optimus Prime's corpse.

Why is that awesome? They could drive back in one of the Autobots and be there in a minute or two.

They don't do that.

What?

They walk.

Of course they do. And I assume the Autobots just mysteriously disappear again until a second before a Decepticon is about to kill Sam.

Yes. Exactly.

I am already incredibly sick of this movie, and I'm just typing questions about it. Sam resurrects Optimus, Optimus kills the Fallen, end of story, right?

Pretty close. Sam dies, though.

Really?

Yeah, for a little while. But then the Transformers in heaven send him back because he still has work to do.

**** you.

I'm serious.

**** you. There's no way.

It's true. The 6-7 Primes are there in the clouds like Mufasa's head in The Lion King, and tell Sam he's awesome and he needs to live again so he can bring Optimus back to life.

I may be ill.

Then Jetfire appears out of nowhere and rips out his own heart right in front of Optimus to give him his elderly old robot powers. This makes Optimus into a flying badass who defeats the Megatron and Starscream and the Fallen in a little less than two minutes. After the last 30 minutes of the movie have been nothing but explosions -- not all of which have any obvious causes -- it's a bit disappointing.

Anything else you want to add?

Well, only that although Sam jams the Matrix of Leadership into Optimus Prime's chest to resurrect him, a Decepticon takes it out like 10 seconds later and Optimus is fine. Just a little weird, is all.

Can you give me any reason I would want to see this film in theaters?

I can't answer every question, man.

BONUS ROUND!

So it's not as bad as ****ting your pants?

Marginally. I honestly had to make a pro and con list to figure it out.

Why on earth would anyone make a film about giant robots but have myriad scenes of some random douchebag's first day of college?

I don't have the faintest clue.

Could there have been more trite, less inspired song for Bumblebee to play when Sam says he's going to college than The Pointer Sisters' "I'm So Excited"?

No. No there couldn't.

Why can't Bumblebee talk, but the other Autobots can?

Because Bumblebee is retarded, but in a Sling Blade kind of a way. This explains how he kills the living **** out of a Decepticon later.

Why does Sam's mom buy and consume a pot brownie?

Well, Sam's mom was in a coma for the last 30+ years, which explains how she had never heard of marijuana, and why she didn't understand the consequences of eating it even after her husband specifically told her it was a pot brownie (Sam was unfortunately conceived and born during this period). A better question is why any college student in America would be selling pot brownies at an on-campus bake sale, let alone to a middle-aged woman.

A lot was made of how Shia the Beef's hand injury was written into the film. How was this done?

Well, sometimes Shia had a huge bandage on his hand, and sometimes he didn't.

That doesn't sound "written in" at all.

Well, no actual words are used to explain it. It might be more accurate to say it "shows up sometimes."

Why would a robot need to fart, pee, or vomit? And why would it need testicles?

Michael Bay does not understand what a robot is.

What is the point of the character of Sam's college roommate, and why the **** does he stay for the entirety of the movie?

I have no clue. He's not comedy relief, because that's covered by 90% of the Transformers themselves. He technically leads the Beef to John Turturro, but surely there could have been another way to do that. Besides, Turturro just leads them to Jetfire anyways. It's all extraneous.

Why can only a Prime kill the Fallen? Why can Jetfire teleport? Why can the Fallen wave a staff and make **** fly around? Why do actual cars and Autobots get sucked into Devastator's maw, but John Turturro and that other kid can run around?

Because... because **** YOU, that's why.

Can you explain Megan Fox's appeal?

Yes. She looks like a porn star and has the same acting talent as one, yet for some reason she makes mainstream movies. This tonal disconnect is what's so appealing about her.

If you had to pick a single scene that exemplifies Michael Bay's utter disdain for story and continuity, what would it be?

When five Decepticons sink to the bottom of the ocean to retrieve Megatron's corpse. A submarine tracks five "subjects" going down, and when they get there, one of the Decepticons is killed to give parts to Megatron. 5 -1 +1 = 5, right? No, because the sub somehow tracks "six" subjects coming up. Not only is this very basic math, this is the simplest of script errors. It could not possibly have been more than one page apart in the script. And yet Michael Bay either didn't care to notice or didn't give a ****. "Math? Math is for pus**es. My movies are about **** blowing up, man."

Could you sum up the film in one line of its dialogue?

"I am standing directly beneath the enemy's scrotum."

This is hilarious.

http://www.joblo.com/forums/showthre...16#post3068616

[Tisti]

Just watched it 2 hours ago and I agree completely. Good thing those were my expectations

[Perky McGiggles]

Think I might wait for a download on this movie.

[Razeus]

The story didn't make one bit of sense, but it was fun to watch.

Basically, Optimus beat the Fallen ALL BY HIMSELF, while taking on 2 others, but the elder Primes (5-6 of them mind you) couldn't take him. On top of that, they don't even show why the Fallen had to be banished and live on Saturn. Afterall, the elder Primes sacrificed themselves to protect the matrix right? So the Fallen should have been alright by himself, he just needed to search for the Matrix - it was in the same area as the battle...

[Zero]

Spoilers people, SPOILERS.

[NEODARK]

THat was hilarious///

This movie was a POS!!!

[night]

haha 19% on rotten

also funny.. skimming through the reviews and comments the #1 arguement is "but it made 200mil, how can it suck?"



signs of a bad movie:

If you rendered the entire movie on a modern home PC, you would have had to start the renders 16,000 years ago

According to the New Zealand Herald, Michael Bay has made it into the Guinness Book of World Records:

So ambitious are some of the scenes, that Bay has made it into the Guinness Book of Records for the biggest explosion on film with actors present. That shot was filmed in New Mexico.

[Meteor]

Nice read and so true!!

Another big gripe for me:

They used a giant bloody Rail Gun to blow up Devestator from the Pyramid,
but cannot use it to blow up either the Fallen or the damn machine itself?

[marqmajere]

And yet this movie made more money that god could create himself. Yes, $8.50 of it was mine and I have to say that it is one of the worst movies ever made.

Basically you'll love this movie if you enjoy fart jokes because there are, in fact, FART JOKES IN THE GODDAMN MOVIE!

[aRandomRobot]

Michael Bay's rejected Transformers 2 script:





See, it could have been better and/or worse.

[Warpedkevin]

I liked it...

[DaJMasta]

OH ROBOT SNAP!


both were awesome

[DorXtar]

Originally Posted by marqmajere

And yet this movie made more money that god could create himself.!

You're retarded.

I also saw this movie only cuz everyone kept saying "turn off your brain blah blah blah"

So I went in with the lowest expectations possible. The movie met my expectations.

I didn't pay for the ticket either. Gave my money to Ice Age 3.

[marqmajere]

Originally Posted by DorXtar

You're retarded.

I also saw this movie only cuz everyone kept saying "turn off your brain blah blah blah"

So I went in with the lowest expectations possible. The movie met my expectations.

I didn't pay for the ticket either. Gave my money to Ice Age 3.

NO YOU!

[Auric]

Originally Posted by DorXtar

You're retarded.

I also saw this movie only cuz everyone kept saying "turn off your brain blah blah blah"

So I went in with the lowest expectations possible. The movie met my expectations.

I didn't pay for the ticket either. Gave my money to Ice Age 3.

Does that mean you bought a ticket at a multiplex for Ice Age 3 but instead went into the room showing Transformers 2?

I have not been to a cinema for years but that would be an interesting way to support good films yet still wallow like a pig in filth (especially having already seen the former).

[Tisti]

Originally Posted by Auric

Does that mean you bought a ticket at a multiplex for Ice Age 3 but instead went into the room showing Transformers 2?

I have not been to a cinema for years but that would be an interesting way to support good films yet still wallow like a pig in filth (especially having already seen the former).

Aye, was stunned to not think of this before.

Will do it next time

[night]

no, i'm sure it means he watched ice age 3 and on the way out slipped into tranformers.

i've gone like an hour early with a girl and we went and sat in another movie until ours was starting.

[DorXtar]

Originally Posted by night

no, i'm sure it means he watched ice age 3 and on the way out slipped into tranformers.

i've gone like an hour early with a girl and we went and sat in another movie until ours was starting.

I didn't want to watch Ice Age 3, so I didn't. But I bet it's got a better plot than transretards revenge of the retards.

[soylent]

I'm not sure if I can hotlink this... but here goes:

[DaJMasta]

Originally Posted by soylent

I'm not sure if I can hotlink this... but here goes:

[bounty_hunter]

That was pretty hilarious

[VVanks]

I find it annoying how apologizers for this movie say they had no expectations for it.

ILM literally spent millions of dollars and man hours rendering the robots. It's funny how Michael Bay can turn such a huge endeavor into something nobody gives a **** about.

It's like NASA building manned moon mission rocket that everyone expected to explode on lift off.

[bounty_hunter]

I just hate how apologists excuse the movie as a stupid popcorn flick. There's stupid and there's just downright lazy and retarded. This guy outlines it pretty well

[CyanBlues]

lol love the basic math thing, its so true i was like WTF about that part too

[.nox]

Wow this just makes me want to see the movie more and more. I think I'll go see it high ...

[OzzieBloke]

Originally Posted by soylent

I'm not sure if I can hotlink this... but here goes:

I don't get it. Hive.jpg... what's that from?

[soylent]

Originally Posted by OzzieBloke

I don't get it.

Suggestive shape, men with guns standing beneath it.

Originally Posted by OzzieBloke

Hive.jpg... what's that from?

Half-life mod called natural-selection(more specifically, concept art for the comming natural-selection 2).

[caveman-jim]

Originally Posted by VVanks

I find it annoying how apologizers for this movie say they had no expectations for it.

ILM literally spent millions of dollars and man hours rendering the robots. It's funny how Michael Bay can turn such a huge endeavor into something nobody gives a **** about.

It's like NASA building manned moon mission rocket that everyone expected to explode on lift off.

Originally Posted by bounty_hunter

I just hate how apologists excuse the movie as a stupid popcorn flick. There's stupid and there's just downright lazy and retarded. This guy outlines it pretty well

It made money for the studio and investors, so it's a success. I don't know how a transformers movie could be anything other than a stupid popcorn flick. Crazy space robots come to earth... reality does not apply.

[Tisti]

Originally Posted by caveman-jim

It made money for the studio and investors, so it's a success. I don't know how a transformers movie could be anything other than a stupid popcorn flick. Crazy space robots come to earth... reality does not apply.

But math does. And ****ing common sense.

[VVanks]

Originally Posted by caveman-jim

It made money for the studio and investors, so it's a success. I don't know how a transformers movie could be anything other than a stupid popcorn flick. Crazy space robots come to earth... reality does not apply.

I assume you think StarWars, Star Trek, Terminator, and the rest of successful Sci-Fi series are stupid popcorn flicks as well.

What's the difference? One has robots, the other has killer robots.