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Old Sep 4, 2008, 12:54 PM   #1
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Default Quad vs Duo scaling tested, interesting results.

I keep hearing all the quad naysayers mentioning that quad core CPUs don't really offer much more improvement in games at the moment over dual core CPUs. Well, the below recent article from Legion Hardware says otherwise.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=770

The Company of Heroes results were by far the most interesting, with performance numbers of quad cores almost double that of dual cores.
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=770&p=3

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There were certainly a number of interesting results recorded when testing such a large range of processors with the Radeon HD 4870 X2. Perhaps the most interesting thing that we have noticed is how much faster the Core 2 Quad processors were when compared to the Core 2 Duo’s, this is not something that we have really seen before. This was really evident in Company of Heroes, where the Intel quad-core processors were roughly 100% faster than their dual-core parts.

While Company of Heroes was the most extreme example, all other games tested still gave the quad-core processors an advantage. Generally the performance margin between the Core 2 Duo and Phenom X4 processors was quite minimal, though more often than not the Intel dual-core processors did outperform the AMD quad-core parts. This is neither new nor surprising, as we have seen this time and time again in the past.
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Another interesting thing is that shows where the 4870x2 is cpu bound (<~3.3ghz on Core 2).

I'm interested to see what Crislers response to this is.

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CPU scaling tests @1920x1200, 8xAA and 16xAF?
What´s the deal with that?

Looks pretty good for quads though.
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I prefer real world benching because it delivers results that are relevant to me. Of course all those quad-core and 4800 using people who game at 800*600 are going to be upset.
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I prefer real world benching because it delivers results that are relevant to me. Of course all those quad-core and 4800 using people who game at 800*600 are going to be upset.
I am upset damnit!
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Aww man, eww to the CoH Phenom numbers
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ya rly. definitely making a q6600 look good right now.
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ya rly. definitely making a q6600 look good right now.


With those price drops you posted about also, there's less reason to fear reckless overclocking of them either. I'm pretty sure mine would do 4Ghz on water, I've had mine boot at 4Ghz, only heat was stopping me from benching / stability testing. Soon maybe....

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With the recent quad core price drops (A Q6600 can be had for $180 now), their introduction to laptops and the tendency for more and more developers to take advantage of the extra cores, I can see dual-core CPUs being phased out real soon, just like single core CPUs has been. That's progress for you.
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With the recent quad core price drops (A Q6600 can be had for $180 now), their introduction to laptops and the tendency for more and more developers to take advantage of the extra cores, I can see dual-core CPUs being phased out real soon, just like single core CPUs has been. That's progress for you.
Looks good to me! I say keep it up! Moar cores for chores!
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With the recent quad core price drops (A Q6600 can be had for $180 now), their introduction to laptops and the tendency for more and more developers to take advantage of the extra cores, I can see dual-core CPUs being phased out real soon, just like single core CPUs has been. That's progress for you.
Good. Someone I know just built a PC and got a dual core. I asked him why the hell he didn't get a quad and he said he "didn't need one, two cores is enough".

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As long as Celerons exist, we'll still have single and dual core waste of space procs. With the rise in performance of ultralow power chips from Via and Intel, the celeron and low end dual cores dont make sense in terms of their cost vs. perf/watt. I'd rather see 1ghz quad cores with 512kb L2 for $75 than 2Ghz Dual core celerons for $60.
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I keep hearing all the quad naysayers mentioning that quad core CPUs don't really offer much more improvement in games at the moment over dual core CPUs. Well, the below recent article from Legion Hardware says otherwise.

http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=770

The Company of Heroes results were by far the most interesting, with performance numbers of quad cores almost double that of dual cores.
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=770&p=3

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OMG, Quad looking good for Dawn of War 2 (CoH engine).
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With the recent quad core price drops (A Q6600 can be had for $180 now), their introduction to laptops and the tendency for more and more developers to take advantage of the extra cores, I can see dual-core CPUs being phased out real soon, just like single core CPUs has been. That's progress for you.
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Aww man, eww to the CoH Phenom numbers
I would take their AMD numbers with a grain of salt. The Q6600 wins against the Phenom 9950 most of the time, but it doesn't completely outclass it like that in any other review running any app or game
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...ance/page5.asp

Not saying the Phenom is the greatest CPU ever, but something is obviously wrong with their numbers. The relative performance of the X2's, C2D's and Phenoms suggests it's only using two of its cores for some reason (e.g. if they first installed the game with one of the X2 CPUs in the system and then switched CPUs without reinstalling). Or maybe some driver or game issue is hindering performance.
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Hmm...overclocking... two cores vs four cores?

Seriously though, the price vs performance...who really wins?
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Hmm...overclocking... two cores vs four cores?

Seriously though, the price vs performance...who really wins?
what kind of cpu speed do you need to play today's games anyway? i had my [email protected] (pipes out MAD heat.. haha) with my GTX 260 OC.
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It really depends what you do. I'd like to do fraps AND get good FPS. I think nothing less than a quad will do the task as smoovly.
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what kind of cpu speed do you need to play today's games anyway? i had my [email protected] (pipes out MAD heat.. haha) with my GTX 260 OC.
If you look at the results, you'll notice that even the slowest CPUs give you more than 60 FPS in most of the games, while the fastest ones are pumping out *hundreds* of frames per second.

Anything over 60 FPS average is fine to me. With most monitors you're limited to 60Hz anyway and with 60FPS average it'll not drop below 30 FPS minimum, which is still fine. With the fastest CPUs and Vsync enabled you're only using like 25% - 75% of your computer's potential.
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- I was pleased to see how the X2 4000+ did well; my boy has one in his rig with 8800GS SLI.
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The benchmark has been updated and now Company of Heroes no longer gets double the frame rate like before. Curious if whatever the bug was before actually caused that high frame rate or caused it to be somehow over reported.

Thanks to OP for the link BTW. Nice to see a huge cpu test like this at an actual gaming resolution.
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Bah.

There wasn't one benchmark in that review where Quad made a difference you could notice without the FRAPs on- Quad was totally meaningless.

I used a QX6700 @ 3GHz in my main rig up until getting an E8400 @ 3GHz about 4 months ago.

I can't tell the difference.
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one thing this test highlighted, is that 'even' an X2 4000+ is capable of delivering the goods.
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I had an X2 4200+ and sure as hell notice a difference to what I have now, but I never had a dual core Intel.
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