Nvidia PhysX 8.07.18

[SIrPauly]

Another Article:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/15261

[caveman-jim]

Originally Posted by SIrPauly

Another Article:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/15261

Their demo of physX heat ray UT3 level:

[caveman-jim]

Originally Posted by SIrPauly

Another Article:

http://techreport.com/articles.x/15261

This is an excellent article - they tested with low-mid range hardware:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz / 2x 2GB Corsair ValueSelect DDR2-667 / Zotac GeForce 8800 GT Amp! Edition

[Jokerzwild]

Originally Posted by caveman-jim

This is an excellent article - they tested with low-mid range hardware:

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13GHz / 2x 2GB Corsair ValueSelect DDR2-667 / Zotac GeForce 8800 GT Amp! Edition

That still kinda sucks framerate-wise compared to the regular level. I guess you can't expect to take NO performance hit for all the extra stuff though. And I imagine my setup will run it faster cos my processor is better than the one they're using even though the cards are very similar.

[mynakedrat2]

yeah, with a 9800 or higher it will be better,

[SIrPauly]

Just was playing Warmonger and actually enjoying it; using x16AA this time. Tiles, rubble flying all over the place and this was neat: I'm checking out my weapon loads and changing weapons under the illusion I was behind cover and, suddenly, a massive explosion, and my cover became rubble with pieces all over the place.........LOL! Sitting duck and ran like hell! That was neat!

[zebra 204]

Does Bioshock use PhysX since its Unreal Engine III?

[SIrPauly]

I don't think so.

Here is another article:

http://www.driverheaven.net/articles.php?articleid=122


And a quote from Zardon:

I have been reliably informed today that yes Farcry 2 will support PhysX.

http://www.driverheaven.net/1165054-post3.html

nVidia is certainly not fooling around here that's for sure and Physics, to me is the next big step in immersion.

[caveman-jim]

Well I got physX working on my 8800GS SLI set up man thats fun! With a single 8800GS (no physX) I had to run detail 2/ world 2 settings @ 1440x900 to get nice smooth playable frames. With SLI enabled I could bump that up to 5/5 and it still ran great. With physX enabled (SLI) then I had to drop down to 3/3 to get around some chugging slow spots in Heatray. Didn't notice any difference between SLI enabled with PhysX and Single GPU mode + PhysX mode, they played the same. I didn't do any tests with FRAPS because I just wanted to play and enjoy.

Tornado was a blast! I saw a bot blast a large piece of rubble with a rocket to topple it and flatten another one. My rockets get blown off-course trying to kill a bot. The tornado sucked me out of a broken window and killed me.
A good time was had by all. My boy's rig is an AMD x2 4000+ (2.0ghz) w/3Gb RAM and SLI 8800GS 384Mb. I paid $120 for both cards, total. Excellent!

[SIrPauly]

LOL! That's such a gamer.........love these kinds of posts. Sucked out the brok'n window.........LOL!

[Jokerzwild]

Well I got it going on my G80 8800gts! I agree the PhysX levels in UT3 are fun, but I got a problem... I get better fps with hardware accel disabled . I know PhysX is enabled cos I get the option in the control panel and my cpu score in Vantage is rediculously inflated. I dunno, maybe this card just isn't powerful enough to keep up with rendering the game and doing physics at the same time? I was playing at the highest settings at 1680*1050. No AA or AF. I'm about to try out that Warmonger game and see what's doing with that.

[mynakedrat2]

where can we get all those cool demo's????
anyone know yet?

[caveman-jim]

Originally Posted by Jokerzwild

Well I got it going on my G80 8800gts! I agree the PhysX levels in UT3 are fun, but I got a problem... I get better fps with hardware accel disabled . I know PhysX is enabled cos I get the option in the control panel and my cpu score in Vantage is rediculously inflated. I dunno, maybe this card just isn't powerful enough to keep up with rendering the game and doing physics at the same time? I was playing at the highest settings at 1680*1050. No AA or AF. I'm about to try out that Warmonger game and see what's doing with that.

Huh??? You get better FPS with hardware physX disabled? Should be a near slideshow @ 1680x1050 in the Lighthouse on the CPU only

[mynakedrat2]

Originally Posted by zebra 204

Does Bioshock use PhysX since its Unreal Engine III?

nope

[Jokerzwild]

Originally Posted by caveman-jim

Huh??? You get better FPS with hardware physX disabled? Should be a near slideshow @ 1680x1050 in the Lighthouse on the CPU only

Hang on lemme try again, maybe it didn't really disable it or something. Might need a restart.

[mynakedrat2]

Anyone seen those awesome nvidia demos for fluid, and the ut3 thing you shoot at?
Any ideas where to get them? Google is not my friend today apparently.

[SIrPauly]

Yeah, I did see them and look good but what is nice to see, to me, is the lists of PhysX titles coming soon and looking forward to them actually.

The soft bodies were so odd and when I watched the video -- surprised me how much was in that specific nVidia demo.

[mynakedrat2]

does the nvidia physx control panel thing still show on the control panel?
Mine is not there now i loaded these new drivers?
Thanks in advance

[SIrPauly]

I've always used the "nVidia PhysX properties" under: All Programs/ nVidia corporation.

[mynakedrat2]

its not there either, and not in the control panel anymore? and I cannot play legend hand of god. This is odd.

[Jokerzwild]

Originally Posted by Jokerzwild

Hang on lemme try again, maybe it didn't really disable it or something. Might need a restart.

It's working, but I get really strange behavior. With hardware physics enabled (the tickmark in the UT3 options) it stays steady at around 27 fps at 1680*1050 all high no aa or af. When I untick the box it goes at like 45 fps for about a minute and then tanks to a slideshow. I'm thinkin' that it's higher for that minute because not much physics stuff is going on and it's using the full power of the gpu. With it enabled it's using the gpu for both the whole time so it's lower but never goes into slideshow mode. That warmonger game runs great though, around 45fps I guess.

Overall I'd say that this card just isn't powerful enough. Even for normal games without lotsa physics it's just so slow compared to the 4850 I've been running. Every game I've fired up needed reductions in settings. I've also gotten a bigger display since I last used it so the extra res is too much for it. So I think I'd need a better card to get the full effect. Those PhysX levels in UT3 are cool, but I think I like them cos they actually have decent level designs, not because of the physics.

I think I'm gonna run some of those demos and call it a day with the old 8800. At least I know it'll run PhysX in the new spare pc I'm putting together! It has given me a little push in the direction of getting a GTX280 though. It looks like nV is really standing behind it so it will definitely have a future, and the bit we're seeing here is just the beginning. I think that even these few games and demos that work are awesome because it's all free! Extra stuff just for owning an nVidia card... can't beat that.

[Jokerzwild]

Originally Posted by mynakedrat2

its not there either, and not in the control panel anymore? and I cannot play legend hand of god. This is odd.

Does Legend support PhysX?

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[demowhc]

so whats the verdict? are you guys impressed with the results?

I'm not impressed by the videos, but then again I have no first hand experience either, I'm tempted to pick up a cheap 2nd hand 9600GT or something just to mess around with..

what games are supported? GRAW2 and UT3 I know about, but are there any new games that are worth playing?

It would be cool if you could throw a cheap g80/g92 in a spare pcie x1 slot and still use 4870 crossfire for graphics

[mynakedrat2]

i uninstalled everythig, ran driver clean and Sweeper, reboot in safe mode, uninstalled, then rebooted in SMode again, ran cleaners again, reinstalled drivers, rebooted, installed physx, then rebooted.
It works again!

[zebra 204]

Games list:http://www.nzone.com/object/nzone_physxgames_home.html

The games highlighted with the Nvidia logo next it are the games supported so far I'd assume.

[caveman-jim]

the one that has me excited the most in that list is Speedball 2

[Jokerzwild]

I'm downloading the Silverfall demo right now to see if it PhysX works on it. It's one of the highlighted ones on the list and I remember how badly the physics tore my system up when it first came out. We'll see!

[Jokerzwild]

Oh and a few more impressions... in UT3 my fps more than doubles with hardware physics enabled, but for some reason it thrashes the HDD also. Doesn't happen in software mode . I mean it really swaps hard with PhysX enabled, like sometimes the system's held up for 30 secs, especially at the start of a round. PhysX must use the video memory for something I guess, and this card doesn't have much of it to begin with. Once you're well into the game it stays smooth though.

My cpu score in Vantage goes from 10565 to 25794 with it turned on but my overall score only goes from 4859 to 5136. My HD4850 scores ~7200 or so.

I wish there was a way to run this 8800gts in the 1x PCIe slot and use the HD4850 as the main adapter... that would be a sweet setup right there!

[demowhc]

Originally Posted by Jokerzwild

I wish there was a way to run this 8800gts in the 1x PCIe slot and use the HD4850 as the main adapter... that would be a sweet setup right there!

thats exactly what I want to see

[caveman-jim]

I did mod a mobo of mine to open-end the PCIe x1 slot, it gives a pretty big perf hit (going from x16 lanes to x1)... you'd probably be better off ebaying your card and getting a physx card, except that the UT3 mod requires the nvcuda driver to be installed.

All those $130-150 dual PEG mobos are starting to look more attractive now