Rage3D 9800 GTX and SLI / 3-Way SLI Performance Preview

***Lupine*** · Apr 1, 2008, 05:24 AM

Has nVidia produced a worthy successor to the 8800 GTX? Join Rage3D guest reviewer ChrisRay as he uncovers nVidia's latest G92 offering: the 9800 GTX.

Today Nvidia unveals its newest single GPU high end video card sporting the G92 core: the GeForce 9800 GTX. In addition to higher clocks, the 9800 GTX joins the 9800 GX2 in supporting several features that separate it from its the 8800 GT and 8800 GTS brothers, including Hybrid Power and Tri SLI. The GeForce 9800 GTX comes with an attractive MSRP of $299 to $349. Join Rage3D as we examine Nvidia's new offering as we discover how well the 9800 GTX positions itself as a new contender in the price/performance arena.

Review: nVIDIA 9800 GTX and SLI / 3-Way SLI Performance Preview

Arghuin · Apr 1, 2008, 06:58 AM

Post all other reviews from sites in this thread as well or...?

KickAssCop · Apr 1, 2008, 07:04 AM

Reading now...

A good head to head with an 8800GT would've been nice...

Targon · Apr 1, 2008, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KickAssCop

Reading now...

A good head to head with an 8800GT would've been nice...

It would be interesting to see a head-to-head with a CrossfireX setup as well. While AMD/ATI may not be able to compete very well on a single-card to single-card basis, when you go to three video cards, things may change a bit.

AlexV · Apr 1, 2008, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Targon

It would be interesting to see a head-to-head with a CrossfireX setup as well. While AMD/ATI may not be able to compete very well on a single-card to single-card basis, when you go to three video cards, things may change a bit.

Something along those lines might be coming, although, making one huge assumption WRT the ATi content that'll soon be published(of which I have no knowledge), it won't be exactly a head-to-head. But odds are that you'll see what the competition gives in some of the price brackets included here.

Good job Chris!

acroig · Apr 1, 2008, 09:27 AM

Thanks to Chris and Charlie for their hard work!

ChrisRay · Apr 1, 2008, 09:47 AM

For those curious about the case/cooling I used for this review.

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***Lupine*** · Apr 1, 2008, 09:50 AM

I'm particularly disappointed with Nvidia's naming scheme on this one. Don't get me wrong, it does look like it brings a lot of good things to the table vs. the 8800 GTX. But it earns the title 8850 GTX or similar, not one indicative of an all new series.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Targon

It would be interesting to see a head-to-head with a CrossfireX setup as well. While AMD/ATI may not be able to compete very well on a single-card to single-card basis, when you go to three video cards, things may change a bit.

Unfortunately we don't have both setups under the same roof this time around, but a CrossfireX config is working its way through the Rage3D labs and, IMHO, the review will be most interesting.

acroig · Apr 1, 2008, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupine

.... a CrossfireX config is working its way through the Rage3D labs and, IMHO, the review will be most interesting.

We have labs? I guess my security clearance is not high enough to visit them.

Happy April fools!

noko · Apr 1, 2008, 12:25 PM

Like the quick rundown of review, good job. Wow! can't believe my GTX is about as good as it gets for single GPU cards yet after a year and a half. I am looking forward more for next generation stuff, maybe DX 11 as well if Ray tracing actually goes mainstream with real time rendering.

AlexV · Apr 1, 2008, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig

We have labs? I guess my security clearance is not high enough to visit them.

Happy April fools!

I think the traveling expenses would be somewhat...extensive.

ChrisRay · Apr 1, 2008, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KickAssCop

Reading now...

A good head to head with an 8800GT would've been nice...

I would have liked to include the 8800GT but time restraints and trying to maintain consistency with the other reviews I wasnt able too. I did keep the 8800GT SLI results in there though. The 8800GT is typically a good deal slower than the 9800GTX in alot of cases. I found some cases to be in the range of 20-25%. Not that its a bad value. But consider the 8800GT originally came out for the 299-349 price tag that the 9800GTX is assuming now. It makes me wonder what Nvidia's plans are for the 8800GT. Probably sit it at around the 200 dollar mark.

KickAssCop · Apr 1, 2008, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisRay

I would have liked to include the 8800GT but time restraints and trying to maintain consistency with the other reviews I wasnt able too. I did keep the 8800GT SLI results in there though. The 8800GT is typically a good deal slower than the 9800GTX in alot of cases. I found some cases to be in the range of 20-25%. Not that its a bad value. But consider the 8800GT originally came out for the 299-349 price tag that the 9800GTX is assuming now. It makes me wonder what Nvidia's plans are for the 8800GT. Probably sit it at around the 200 dollar mark.

I see thanks. I was wondering if there will be a 9800GT/GTS card in 250$ price range? If that is the case I will sell off my new 8800GT and wait out a bit.

andino · Apr 2, 2008, 03:48 AM

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No additional cooling or case modifications were used for this testing because, frankly, we did not feel they were needed for operating in a standard 70 degree room environment. The results were impressive: with our 8800 GTX 3-Way SLI configuration, we were forced to install additional case cooling to keep the cards from overheating. 9800 GTX SLI, with standard cooling, maintained an average of 85-90C, so 9800 GTX SLI and 3-Way SLI temperatures should be much easier to manage for the average user. Single 9800 GTX and 9800 GTX SLI users will probably never be concerned about their temperature of their card.

That's a little funky to read.

Not being critical or anything, just pointing out...

Arghuin · Apr 2, 2008, 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisRay

It makes me wonder what Nvidia's plans are for the 8800GT. Probably sit it at around the 200 dollar mark.

Or phase it out completely and replace it by the 9800gt (which could go for say $199) and subsequently bring the prices of 9600gt even further down (such as $129 or thereabouts)?

Ah, good days to be a consumer

moshpit · Apr 2, 2008, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arghuin

Or phase it out completely and replace it by the 9800gt (which could go for say $199) and subsequently bring the prices of 9600gt even further down (such as $129 or thereabouts)?

Ah, good days to be a consumer

But what exactly IS 9800GT? Is it any different then 8800GT? They're obviously going to be the same chip, yet again. This is a rip off. G92 could have really cemented Nvidia's reputation for solid refresh's had it been named appropriately, but instead we have this confusing 8800/9800 crap existing on the same chip.

I'm NOT letting this issue go. We're outright watching Nvidia's worst unethical marketing tactic perpetrated yet.

SIrPauly · Apr 2, 2008, 08:41 AM

If there is going to be a 9800 GT -- which I doubt......it may have similar stream processors with higher clockings, and maybe the ability to have Tri-Sli.

It doesn't make much sense to replace the 8800GT and 8800 GTS 512 products considering all of them may be replaced with the 99XX family.

It did make sense to replace the Ultra and GTX even if it's just a few months or so from now.

We may see a more polished naming with the 99XX family but who knows for sure or if this even comes to any level of fruition.

9900GT
9900GTS
9900GTX
9900X2

moshpit · Apr 2, 2008, 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIrPauly

If there is going to be a 9800 GT -- which I doubt......it may have similar stream processors with higher clockings, and maybe the ability to have Tri-Sli.

It doesn't make much sense to replace the 8800GT and 8800 GTS 512 products considering all of them may be replaced with the 99XX family.

It did make sense to replace the Ultra and GTX even if it's just a few months or so from now.

We may see a more polished naming with the 99XX family but who knows for sure or if this even comes to any level of fruition.

9900GT
9900GTS
9900GTX
9900X2

So your saying higher clocks and an extra SLI connector would be enough to justify calling it 9800GT over 8800GT even as it has the same GPU in it? I'm holding back judgement on that one just yet.

SIrPauly · Apr 2, 2008, 09:29 AM

No and why I use the wording "non-ideal" naming scheme because they may offer some confusion for some.

The ideal naming scheme would of been this for the G-92's:

8900GT
8900GTS
8900GTX
8900GX2

Instead of this:

8800GT
8800GTS 512
9800GTX
9800GX2

But what can you do?

moshpit · Apr 2, 2008, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIrPauly

No and why I use the wording "non-ideal" because they may offer some confusion for some.

The ideal naming scheme would of been this for the G-92's:

8900GT
8900GTS
8900GTX
8900GX2

Instead of this:

8800GT
8800GTS 512
9800GTX
9800GX2

But what can you do?

Hehehe. You say "non-ideal", I say "deceptive business practice". You say Tomato, I say tomato. (how does one stress a single letter in a word?)

acroig · Apr 2, 2008, 09:43 AM

You two still at it I see.

ChrisRay · Apr 2, 2008, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig

You two still at it I see.

The Non ATI forums were down for nearly 10 hours. Gotta catchup.

acroig · Apr 2, 2008, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisRay

The Non ATI forums were down for nearly 10 hours. Gotta catchup.

Aren't you banned?

ChrisRay · Apr 2, 2008, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig

Aren't you banned?

The truth is I hacked the site. I said there'd be hell to pay didnt I?

acroig · Apr 2, 2008, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisRay

The truth is I hacked the site. I said there'd be hell to pay didnt I?

Remind me not to piss you off.

SIrPauly · Apr 2, 2008, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisRay

The truth is I hacked the site. I said there'd be hell to pay didnt I?

Worth repeating in this thread, hehe, you bastard!

moshpit · Apr 2, 2008, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIrPauly

Worth repeating in this thread, hehe, you bastard!

And SirPauly and I find a point of agreement

ChrisRay · Apr 4, 2008, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andino

That's a little funky to read.

Not being critical or anything, just pointing out...

Yes I sorry. This was a typo we corrected early on. The 9800GTX should have read "8800GTX". We fixed this on the 1st. I would have noticed your post sooner if not for the April Fools joke and my subsequent ban resulting from it. :P

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Apr 2, 2008, 08:41 AM	#17
SIrPauly Did someone say, RGSSAA? Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 8,987	If there is going to be a 9800 GT -- which I doubt......it may have similar stream processors with higher clockings, and maybe the ability to have Tri-Sli. It doesn't make much sense to replace the 8800GT and 8800 GTS 512 products considering all of them may be replaced with the 99XX family. It did make sense to replace the Ultra and GTX even if it's just a few months or so from now. We may see a more polished naming with the 99XX family but who knows for sure or if this even comes to any level of fruition. 9900GT 9900GTS 9900GTX 9900X2

Apr 2, 2008, 09:29 AM	#19
SIrPauly Did someone say, RGSSAA? Join Date: May 2001 Location: New England Posts: 8,987	No and why I use the wording "non-ideal" naming scheme because they may offer some confusion for some. The ideal naming scheme would of been this for the G-92's: 8900GT 8900GTS 8900GTX 8900GX2 Instead of this: 8800GT 8800GTS 512 9800GTX 9800GX2 But what can you do?

Apr 2, 2008, 09:43 AM	#21
acroig Rage3D Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: GA Posts: 17,336	You two still at it I see.

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