Millennials need to get real about work world

[VW_Factor]

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...1.399c025.html

Thoughts here?

[Pr3tty F1y]

Originally Posted by VW_Factor

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...1.399c025.html

Thoughts here?

Heh, it's why I'm in grad school. Real life sucks Whoever thought up the 40 hr work week obviously didn't work it. At best they put in 3 real hrs of hard work and then played golf on Friday afternoons.

[Debello]

I must be getting old I have never heard of "Millennials" before that artical. But I do agree with it, the company I work for has started let go of it senior people and are replaceing them with kids right out of college, because they are cheaper. The transistion from college to the real world, for the kids who didnt have to work their way through is a major adjustment. That being said I was hired straight out of college, but to my benifiet I had several senior people take me under wing and showed me the ropes. Which I am extremely lucky, because it doesnt always work that way.

What the kids coming straight out of college are facing is the fact that the current employees see them as a threat, because they are cheaper to the company and once trained could easily in the companies eyes replace their higher paid co-workers.

Originally Posted by Pr3tty F1y

Heh, it's why I'm in grad school. Real life sucks Whoever thought up the 40 hr work week obviously didn't work it. At best they put in 3 real hrs of hard work and then played golf on Friday afternoons.

I thought they where 60 hour work weeks and to think I have been lied to all these years

[VW_Factor]

I hadnt heard of Millennials either. Just read the article and started thinking to myself.

These kids had their parents pamper their asses, and now employers are expected and asked to adjust to pamper their candy asses because they are too fragile? What the **** is going on America?! Why are you doing this?!

[Debello]

Originally Posted by VW_Factor

I hadnt heard of Millennials either. Just read the article and started thinking to myself.

These kids had their parents pamper their asses, and now employers are expected and asked to adjust to pamper their candy asses because they are too fragile? What the **** is going on America?! Why are you doing this?!

I was never pampered and many of the people I know and work with where never pampered. I grew up dirt poor and worked 50 hours a week while I went to college, as most of my friends did.

There is a segment in America that everyone assumes is the majority which makes the rest of us who work our ass off look like Ass hats.

[Pr3tty F1y]

Originally Posted by Debello

I thought they where 60 hour work weeks and to think I have been lied to all these years

Grad student work is different. More laid back, more of a chance to think in depth about what you are doing. And, if you're really lucky, you're with faculty who share the same interests as you and you can really focus on what you like.

Originally Posted by Debello

I was never pampered and many of the people I know and work with where never pampered. I grew up dirt poor and worked 50 hours a week while I went to college, as most of my friends did.

There is a segment in America that everyone assumes is the majority which makes the rest of us look like Ass hats.

Well, I can see where they're coming from. If I wouldn't have pushed myself to move to go to grad school, I'd still be living at home with my parents. It's not that I can't live on my own, I just don't want to (but I still am). I think that's the real mind set of Generation Y. We want to focus on what we 'like' and the dealing with real life issues that independent individuals face (like bills and budgeting and planning) are things that Generation Y tends to shy away from.

[Uber_Tiny]

I sit right across from my manager and hear all the bitching and complaining that comes from these "Millennials" that I know exactly what this article is pertaining to. My manager and I just look at each other and shake our heads knowing what each other is thinking. We have had more than one conversation about it to.

Kids now days expect to be given everything for nothing. So when something changes in a work place they cry about it till people bend. To bad for them though as the company looks for ways to easily get rid of these people as they do nothing for the company. In the last couple weeks I have seen 5 people get fired because they are useless tools who do this exact crap.

[DorXtar]

I was a millenial before anyone else. It's called..... a dreamer disconnected with reality. The only difference is that all the little nooblets now want to hang onto hope, yet to do so, they seek detachment from reality.

Wake up kids. The world sucks, and it's getting suckier. Video games and other coping mechanisms aren't going to make it better.

I feel like I'm talking to myself.

[DiaperJe|\|i3]

I had no idea what millenials are, interesting article. GENX rulez! Where's my Pearl Jam cd's.

[HiThere]

Originally Posted by Debello

the company I work for has started let go of it senior people and are replaceing them with kids right out of college, because they are cheaper.

Sounds like a lawsuit waiting to happen...

[RFtinkerer]

Two things jumped out at me because it's something I've seen from how some parents I know raise their children. This is the result.

"They've been overparented, overindulged and overprotected," she says. "They haven't experienced that much failure, frustration, pain. We were so obsessed with protecting and promoting their self-esteem that they crumble like cookies when they discover the world doesn't revolve around them. They get into the real world and they're shocked.

"Parents – both boomers and Gen Xers – thought they could give their kids self-esteem, forgetting that each one of us earns our own self-esteem."

CAN I HEAR AN AMEN?!?


Amen!

[Cartigan]

Originally Posted by VW_Factor

I hadnt heard of Millennials either. Just read the article and started thinking to myself.

These kids had their parents pamper their asses, and now employers are expected and asked to adjust to pamper their candy asses because they are too fragile? What the **** is going on America?! Why are you doing this?!

You can't have things transition from a lifetime of not being taught anything relevant to the real world to the real world by slamming them into a brick wall.

[VW_Factor]

Originally Posted by Cartigan

You can't have things transition from a lifetime of not being taught anything relevant to the real world to the real world by slamming them into a brick wall.

Tough ****.

[caveman-jim]

Great article. Thanks for the share VW.

This is a process I'm currently fighting with my stepson,(so he doesn't turn out like somebody in this thread.)

[caveman-jim]

Originally Posted by Debello

I must be getting old I have never heard of "Millennials" before that artical.

New term to me, too.

Originally Posted by Debello

But I do agree with it, the company I work for has started let go of it senior people and are replaceing them with kids right out of college, because they are cheaper. The transistion from college to the real world, for the kids who didnt have to work their way through is a major adjustment. That being said I was hired straight out of college, but to my benifiet I had several senior people take me under wing and showed me the ropes. Which I am extremely lucky, because it doesnt always work that way.

What the kids coming straight out of college are facing is the fact that the current employees see them as a threat, because they are cheaper to the company and once trained could easily in the companies eyes replace their higher paid co-workers.

That's been the problem faced by college grads forever, always will be. More so in fields where college grads are filling positions previously given to apprentices, who had to do their time and learn everything the company way (and improve on it) before getting to where they are today.

Ultimately, experience and maturity are long term successful, while genius is only a flash in the pan without them.

[Razeus]

i'm definately i gen x'er. no question.

[Spitzfiya]

I say who cares abotu what gen u come from, its all situational dependant....this is BS

I'm from the mellenium generation and i was drop kicked punched in the face...have to do everything on my own but i turned out allright have to spend like 2 years upgrading courses before i can even start real college (apparently it would of been cheaper for me if i didnt graduate)...which is gay...but im on the right track

Third Gen FTW

[xCLAVEx]

They weren't just talking about "millenials" (never heard that term before), but they also talked about the boomers and X-ers.

I also think the notion of what the article mentioned about Gen-Xer's is right on track. It says they are the "angry" generation...seems true as well.

[jimmt]

Originally Posted by xCLAVEx

They weren't just talking about "millenials" (never heard that term before), but they also talked about the boomers and X-ers.

I also think the notion of what the article mentioned about Gen-Xer's is right on track. It says they are the "angry" generation...seems true as well.

Are we Xers? 34 here...

[MasterGoa]

The bottom of that article answers a lot of questions here...

[ADVERSiTY]

Seems to me like a way for another aging generation to try and put themselves above a younger generation.

Although I'm not entirely sure what the problem is, seeing as how the article doesn't go any further in depth into the subject past the article headline. A bunch of generic terms are tossed about, but nothing in the form of specifics are given.

Also I would argue that age shouldn't be used a measuring stick, but rather years in the workforce. People are entering the workforce for the first time as late as their mid 20's now, older generations rarely extending their educations past High School were working much earlier. So a 25 year old "kid" in the workforce now is not the same as a 25 year old "kid" in the workforce in the '80s.

Not to mention that people who think the world does/should revolve around them at work is not generational dependent. It may be more prominent now, or just more publicized, both of which could be due to the changing pace of the world over the last 50 years or so.

[Adanu]

I love generalizations, because it's so easy to laugh at them.

[-=John=-]

Originally Posted by Adanu

I love generalizations, because it's so easy to laugh at them.

I don't know, man. I mean I can't speak for you or any other "millenials" (wtf) but I'm ashamed to admit that some of that stuff is true for me. I'm studying at uni right now, work casually for my dad for money and usually spend most of my time sitting on my ass playing video games. Hell, I don't even have my drivers license. I know I need to get real and grow the hell up before I graduate at the end of 2009 so I'm hoping to take a few steps to fix that this year. Certainly there are plenty of people who aren't in my situation at all but I think there is at least some truth in what's being said there.

[DorXtar]

I think some of us would qualify as generation "Y", which would be between X and the current crop.

I don't consider myself generation X at all. GenX would be considered anyone in the "Friends" age-realm. Or maybe I'm at the cusp of the end of GenX. But I really don't feel like it.

[DorXtar]

http://www.doubleviking.com/videos/t...html/8110.html

Perfect example of how today's kids want to remain detached from reality by living their lives on the internets.