For those With AGP problem.

[Wagnard]

OK I make this thread for people having problem with agp and the latest driver release.

Post your system info here so we might find the culprit and send a detailed report to ATI.

1- Motherboard + Chipset + bios version
2- Vista? Xp? 32/ 64? final or downloaded one (some torrent claimed as final are not)
3- Is there an exclamation mark on device manager for your video card?
4- What is your AGP aperture size in your bios?

[Cyber-Mav]

ABIT NF7-S v2
XP-M2600 @ 2.4ghz
Seagate 250gb sata
Windows XP
128mb agp aperature size (iv tried other sizes)
HIS X1950PRO 512mb AGP

only driver version 7.7 works fine for me.

[Cyber-Mav]

ABIT NF7-S v2
Windows XP
128mb agp aperature size (iv tried other sizes)
HIS X1950PRO 512mb AGP
only driver version 7.7 works fine for me.
forgot to add, driver 7.10 gets into windows but no 3d game works, i get an error about directx3d device not found.
im currently running 7.7 driver with 7.10 control panel on that pc now.

[Bloody Jim]

I haven't tried the 7.10's yet, and I don't know if I should.

My card is a Sapphire x1650 512 AGP on WinXP. With the 7.9's I couldn't even boot. Does anyone know if this driver release is still borked for this card? It's a real pain to install, not be able to boot, restore, and reinstall some lower version.

[Wagnard]

Originally Posted by Bloody Jim

I haven't tried the 7.10's yet, and I don't know if I should.

My card is a Sapphire x1650 512 AGP on WinXP. With the 7.9's I couldn't even boot. Does anyone know if this driver release is still borked for this card? It's a real pain to install, not be able to boot, restore, and reinstall some lower version.

I dont know for 7.10 but try to give system info and we will try to compare and maybe find a work-around or report clearly to ati the problem.
Also you may try to ask sapphire about this and they also provide driver for your card. you may try then it may work.

[Brutalix]

MSI NEO2 Nforce 3 250gb, with Amd athlon x2 4600 (s939)
2 gig mem.
Sapphire 1950 pro agp stock speed.
256 agp aperature size, also tried diff. sizes.
Using Windows XP, sp2. 32bit As for me 7.7 is the only properly working driver.

7.8 I got into windows, but 3d games crashed contin.
7.9 Couldnt get into windows.
7.10 Get into windows, 4 bit mode, can change but nothing happens, reboot and i can reset the display prop. but CCC claims that driver is not working with current CCC. And 3d games crashes.
Used driver cleaner, and uninstalled between...

Brut.

[Pr3tty F1y]

7.10's working for me currently.

Sapphire x1950Pro 512mb AGP running 7.10 drivers with dual screens @ 32bpp (DVI->VGA @ 1024x768@60hz, DVI @ 768x1024@60hz).

Had 7.7 drivers installed. Installed 7.10 drivers directly over top of the 7.7 drivers. Had a reboot at my desktop the 1st boot after installing the drivers and a reboot in 3Dmark05. May be hardware or software issue (not currently sure, I'm still trying to establish the cause of the reboots). With the 7.9 drivers, I didn't get reboots, I just got black screens that even resetting would not fix. Did not get any black screens with 7.7 or 7.10.

Running 3DMark05 (each of the 3Dtests 5 times) I get the exact same score as I did with the 7.7 on the 7.10 (10744 3Dmarks). I'm using ATi Tray Tools to OC my card as in my specs on the left. Time to try some Portal and I'll report back.

[Ramazz]

Originally Posted by Bloody Jim

I haven't tried the 7.10's yet, and I don't know if I should.

My card is a Sapphire x1650 512 AGP on WinXP. With the 7.9's I couldn't even boot. Does anyone know if this driver release is still borked for this card? It's a real pain to install, not be able to boot, restore, and reinstall some lower version.

I'm running a powercolour 1600pro 512 agp without issues on 7.10 and had the same issue as you with 7.9. I'd say you SHOULD be safe to give it a go.

[Qualitier]

v7.10 works right here, with both 256 or 128 MB AGP aperture size .

[Pr3tty F1y]

OK, here's a little more info on my end.

Thus far I haven't had any *major* issues related to Catalyst 7.10 on my AGP Sapphire x1950Pro 512mb on WinXP SP2 with /my mobo set to an AGP aperture of 256mb. I did have one freeze (repeating sound), so I turned down my OC a bit. I've played HL2:Ep2 for a few hours and have had no problems since.

The process (on WinXP) of bringing my system from 7.7 to 7.10 is as follows:
1.) Uninstalled CCC via the control panel
2.) Uninstalled Catalyst 7.7 from the control panel
3.) Rebooted
4.) Ran Driver Cleaner Pro set to remove only "ATI" and "ATI CCC"
5.) Rebooted
6.) Installed Catalyst 7.10 (deselected the free games / earth sim options) via express mode and canceled the Steam install being that I already had it.
7.) Rebooted
8.) Reconfigured my dual displays
9.) Played games

SmartGART reports all options are tested and set to on, AGP speed is set to 8x.

Now Driver Cleaner Pro *can* screw up your system if you use it incorrectly. However, after having a major pain in the ass today with Windows System Restore, it also can do wonky things to your system just as a warning. If someone else is brave enough to give it a go, all I can say is it worked fine for me.

The only issue I can possibly see causing this would be if there were multiple revisions of the RIALTO bridge chip and some one at ATi tried to "clean up" the driver making it work fine on some/not on others.

[Reinthaler]

ASUS A8V deluxe with Athlon 64 X2 +3800
2 GB Mem
GeCube HD2600pro AGP

Using dual boot WinXP SP2 and Vista 64

Cat Driver and CCC can only be installed from CD provided with the card
7.8, 7.9 and 7.10 failed when I try to install via setup on XP and on Vista64.

Driver update can be done only starting device manager -> driver update -> selecting the inf file of the decompressed new driver, but CCC then remains on the old version

Walter

[Romario]

1) Abit AN7 / Nforce2 / latest Bios 19
2) XP32 final/legal SP2 all updates applied
3) Radeon X850 AGP no exclamation mark in device manager / everything fine

seems no Direct3D (Winamp visual plugin gives Direct3d error) and no OpenGL (COD2 does not start)

[RobboAce]

Specs as per my sig below.

Using Win XP Pro
Bios is latest for my motherboard other than that everyting the ssame with the working 7.8 drivers so cant understand why 7.9 & 7.10 won't work properly with directx

[Wagnard]

Guys try to download the Driver only (no CCC) and try this. Maybe its ccc that prevent something.

Also there is a guide for those interested of reading this: http://www.tweakguides.com/ATICAT_1.html

[gameoverman]

System 1:
Abit IS7 last bios Abit released for 865 chipset
P4C 3gz
512mb XMS 2x256
X1650Pro 512mb ATI
WinXp Pro S2
Driver only, no CC

7.8s worked fine, 7.9s gave me a black screen at boot up, 7.10s work fine.

System 2(a friend's):
Shuttle AN35, last bios released, Nforce 2 chipset
XP 2500 Barton oc to 2800
512mb stick of Mushkin value @2.5 3 3 8
9800Pro 128mb (one of last generation, detected as 9800XT by system)
WinXp Pro S2
Driver only, no CC

7.8 worked fine, 7.9 worked fine, 7.10 boots to desktop but any Directx games crash to desktop(Farcry and CoD 4 demo tested).

[Qualitier]

IMO we should post the AGP aperture size, because many people including myself have suceeded with v7.9 and 256 MB aperture, but not 128 MB or less.

7.7 perfect here, with aperture size 128 MB. This has been the first version in this system, but versions from 7.2 to 7.7 at least worked right too in my previous rig (winXP SP1 or SP2, no CCC, ATT, Barton 2600+@3000+ (190x11.5=2185MHz), Gigabyte 7N400-L (nForce2-U400), 1 GB DDR400 2-2-2-6@190x2, same X1950pro, 128 MB aperture).

With 7.8 and 128 MB aperture size, there were missing icons in my desktop, smartgart stuff off and poor 3d performance.

With 7.9 and 128 MB aperture size, I wasn't able to boot up. With 256 MB aperture everything just fine. Same performance as with 7.7 and 128 MB aperture. This is what I'm using just now.

I haven't tried 7.10 yet.

[Shingo-Y]

Everything in my sig. Didn't tried 7.10 since 7.8 bugged, 7.9 was unadvised by ATI and because I saw people having flaws.

[Seenu]

CAUTION: Installing Catalyst 7.8, 7.10, or 7.9 software on a system containing ATI Radeon X1950 AGP Series of products may result in either the desktop failing to be drawn properly or the operating system failing to boot. It is recommended to continue using Catalyst 7.7 for ATI Radeon X1950 AGP Series of products.

[JHoff80]

Its apparently not just the x1950 series but the x800 series as well.

[Cartel]

and X1650 AGP

[OldMX]

Everything working OK here (well, fiancee's computer)

AIW X800XT agp8x with Biostar P4M80-M4 running Vista Home Premium 32bit with Catalyst 7.10, directx reports everything enabled and no conflicts at all.

[Redrazorback64]

I've experienced problems with Catalyst versions 7.8- 7.10. When using any of those three versions, dxdiag says my directdraw acceleration and my agp texture acceleration isn't enabled. So anything that uses Direct3D will not run. Direct3D works fine with 7.7 and earlier. Also, ever since I upgraded to Vista a couple of months ago, I haven't been able to get OpenGl to work, regardless of driver version.

My system specs:
Athlon 2800+
1 gig DDR memory
Radeon X1600 Pro
Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit

[Auric]

VisionTek has released 'nutha in-betwixt driver (7.10/7.11) for HD2000 series AGP on each of XP/MCE/Vista.

http://www.visiontek.com/teksupport/...s/drivers.html

Direct linky-poo for XP:
http://www.visiontek.com/teksupport/...P_8.43_AGP.exe

[Wagnard]

Originally Posted by Seenu

CAUTION: Installing Catalyst 7.8, 7.10, or 7.9 software on a system containing ATI Radeon X1950 AGP Series of products may result in either the desktop failing to be drawn properly or the operating system failing to boot. It is recommended to continue using Catalyst 7.7 for ATI Radeon X1950 AGP Series of products.

Where did you read this?

[crvendramini]

ABIT NF7 v. 2.0 (Nvidia Nforce 2 Ultra 400)
1024MB RAM DDR 333 (Dual channel enabled)
AMD Sempron 2800 T-Bred
Radeon 9600 XT AIW 128 MB
Windows XP SP2
DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

Starting with 7.9 (including that), all Direct3D tests made using Windows XP dxdiag utility failed.

[Bman2]

After reading other thread here I know the exact file that is causing the problem...

ati3duag.dll ... If i install the 7.10 drivers and i replace this file with the one from the 7.7 drivers everything works...I put the file from 7.8,7.9 or 7.10 back and i loose direct3d... So... By replacing just one file i can get it working or not working...

It's not my finding but I'm posting this in this thread because I guess this could be usefull information...

[rtiangha]

If this is the one thread that consolidates all the specs, then:

MSI K7N2 Delta2-LSR (nforce 2 based, BIOS B.5 2005-01-20)
Athlon XP 2500+
Diamond Viper 512MB DDR2 HD2600pro AGP (Model: 2600PRO512ASB) - Spec Sheet

Graphics Card Manufacturer Powered by ATI
Graphics Chipset ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP
Device ID 9587
Vendor 1002

Subsystem ID 0028
Subsystem Vendor ID 1092

Bus Type AGP
Current Bus Setting AGP 8X

BIOS Version 010.051.000.002
BIOS Part Number 113-AB31200-100-IT
BIOS Date 2007/08/31

Memory Size 512 MB
Memory Type DDR2

Core Clock in MHz 601 MHz
Memory Clock in MHz 405 MHz

Primary Display Yes


1 GB DDR RAM
DVI or VGA connection (my monitor supports both)
Windows XP SP2
DirectX 9c (Aug 2007)
No exclamation mark in device manger, but unknown PCI Device which is probably the HD HDMI Audio device.
AGP Aperture currently set at 512MB (used to be at 128), but it can also be set to 32, 64, 128, and 256 as well.

Official 7.7 works the best, 7.8 sort of works but has slow DirectX 9 acceleration (still trying to determine if it locks up my computer after a while). 7.9 or higher results in no Direct3D at all according to dxdiag.

Am currently running 7.7.

Also, no set of drivers enables the Unified Video Decoder features of my card. If I use DVI and play HD DVD content through PowerDVD Ultra 7.3 (latest patch) then I get garbage drawn on the screen in full screen mode, regardless if I set PowerDVD to play in Windowed mode or not. If I try to play it through VGA, the screen blanks (monitor goes to no signal mode) and then spontaneously reboots. However, this may be related to 737-229894 in the Knowledge Base, although it's hard to tell from the symptoms listed (unless you consider both above to be a "system crash"). Playing WMV HD files off the hard drive are not accelerated either. The WMV HD file plays through PowerDVD (i.e. doesn't cause it to bork), but is not accelerated.

If there's anything I can do to help test, I'm willing. I just bought this card and I really would like to get it working to its full potential. Don't really want to have to build a new computer (and configure all its software) just to play 1080p HD content.

[RavenX]

ASUS MB based on SIS 661FX chipset, latest BIOS and latest AGP driver..

128MB is maximum selectable aperture size in my BIOS.

Radeon 1950PRO 512MB.

7.8 drivers never worked under 32-bit and 64-bit XP. 7.9 and 7.10 work fine. I think that problem is with Smartgart that completely failed under 7.8.

[Tangerine_Dream]

Per ATI Support, the issue is suppose to be fixed in the 7.11's. I have a ticket opened with them.

And of course, they will be released sometime in November.

Can you believe this? It takes two (2) months plus to address a real issue with some of their customers. Sheesh

[rtiangha]

Originally Posted by RavenX

7.8 drivers never worked under 32-bit and 64-bit XP. 7.9 and 7.10 work fine. I think that problem is with Smartgart that completely failed under 7.8.

I think you're right. I moved my HD2600 Pro AGP from an nforce2 board to an Asrock 4coredual-vsta for testing purposes (which has a via chipset with a Q6600) and D3D sort of works with 7.8-7.10 (although the cubes in the dxdiag D3D tests are corrupted and this manifests in corruption in GB-PVR (a pvr-type application that uses VMR9 to render its video) and playing some games).

After rebooting after installing the drivers, a pop up says that SMARTGART is trying to determine optimal settings. I don't see this on my old nforce2 board.