Rage3D GeForce 8-Series Review

Ratchet · Nov 27, 2006, 12:05 PM

I've just published my review of two GeForce 8-Series graphics cards, BFG's 8800 GTX and XFX's 8800 GTS, based on the G80 graphics processing unit. Here's a snip:

Regardless of your foreknowledge of all things G80 I will restate this simple fact of recent history here: on November the 8th NVIDIA released the G80 GPU, what is arguably the biggest advancement in graphics technology since Ernie Coombs invented the pixel in his tickle trunk during his spare time. It does away with so many of the standard conventions of GPU design that the G80 can almost be considered a whole new approach to graphics hardware. It’s akin to the technological leap from piston powered engines to jet engines. Faster, more efficient, and immediately obsoletes everything before it.

Rage3D GeForce 8-Series Review

**Pirate Neilsouth** · Nov 27, 2006, 12:12 PM

I skipped alot of it as it was way to techy for me , but from bits of it i did understand like the af... this card is amazing

caveman-jim · Nov 27, 2006, 12:26 PM

I wonder if we'll see Ratchet's performance 'sound bite' in a flash ad, like on the 7900 promo's from NCIX??

"Buy the nVidia Geforce 8800 at Newegg now - 'it's ****ing fast' says Rage3d"

VW_Factor · Nov 27, 2006, 12:38 PM

Good read Ratchet. I enjoyed it. Makes me want to grab one of those GTS cards now..

Ratchet · Nov 27, 2006, 12:59 PM

That's my goal, to be featured in ads and sound bytes

cvearl · Nov 27, 2006, 01:02 PM

Great review. Thanks.

Can you say AMD/ATI = PWNED?!?! At least for now. Although we all knew it already.

If I was buying a card today. And IF I had that kind of scratch ($450 US). The 8800GTS is an incredible product for the price.

For comparisons sake, the X1950XTX needs to be about $379 now IMO. But lowest I have been seeing is $409. Average $429.

Really too bad ATI will be 3 or so months to answer this.

C.

***Lupine*** · Nov 27, 2006, 01:36 PM

Great review Mark! The only problem is you've incited a riot within my wallet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvearl

Can you say AMD/ATI = PWNED?!?! At least for now. Although we all knew it already.

Pawned? Hardly. With R600 still under wraps, the only thing worry for nVidia was living up to expectations, something they accomplished and then some. The only pawnage that might have happened is if the 8800x hadn't manhandled the existing competition.

Sure looking forward to seeing how ATi responds to these monsters. But until then ... there is zero question as to which cards deserve your hard-earned cash!

caveman-jim · Nov 27, 2006, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupine

Great review Mark! The only problem is you've incited a riot within my wallet.

No riot here.

You need something in the wallet for it to riot.

AllexxisF1 · Nov 27, 2006, 01:48 PM

Great review Ratchet and might I add one of the most professional I have seen on the web.

The G80 really did not pwned ATi just yet. The real proof in the pudding as it were is who runs Crysis best the day it comes out.

The very first DX10 game will be the benchmark for both camps and determines where our cash end up.

cvearl · Nov 27, 2006, 02:32 PM

OK. That is only the 2nd time I have used the word pwnd in my life I think. And I get slapped. Hahahaha.

All I meant by pwned is that they out launched ATI again for the 3rd time in 1 and a half years. And no answer in the near future from ATI. So there was a little pwnage there. That's all.

This was without a doubt a 9700Pro class release from nVidia. It cannot be denied and I am an ATI fan saying this.

I am not afraid for AMD/ATI though. I do firmly believe that that will be the last time it happens. AMD is VERY aggressive. Just look at what they managed to do to Intel for the last few years.

If I was to think someone needed to be afraid, it would be nVidia IMO. AMD is one tough customer. ATI has some VERY smart engineers. The combination could be very tough.

C.

***Lupine*** · Nov 27, 2006, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cvearl

OK. That is only the 2nd time I have used the word pwnd in my life I think. And I get slapped. Hahahaha.

All I meant by pwned is that they out launched ATI again for the 3rd time in 1 and a half years. And no answer in the near future from ATI. So there was a little pwnage there. That's all.

Very true. nVidia is first out the gate again, and with a hard launch no less. I have high hopes for the R600, but being behind AND missing the holiday season is disappointing to say the least.

Competition aside, it is always FANTASTIC to see a next-gen product live up to the hype. Here's hoping that it continues to impress even after DX10 games hit the table.

B_B_W · Nov 27, 2006, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lupine

Very true. nVidia is first out the gate again, and with a hard launch no less. I have high hopes for the R600, but being behind AND missing the holiday season is disappointing to say the least.

Competition aside, it is always FANTASTIC to see a next-gen product live up to the hype. Here's hoping that it continues to impress even after DX10 games hit the table.

We do not know if it lived up to the hype or not. We will not know untill we see it running some dx10 software.

Another thing: The 9700 was at least as great a leap over anything before it, hell even a great leap over the 5800 that came after it. So stop with the ass kissing please.

VW_Factor · Nov 27, 2006, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_B_W

We do not know if it lived up to the hype or not. We will not know untill we see it running some dx10 software.

*snip*

If you read the hype, you'd know that it has lived upto it.. Your head would have to be in the sand to not see that..

And the DX10 software was mentioned, and as Lupine said, lets hope it continues to impress duing that time.

ragster128 · Nov 27, 2006, 03:31 PM

The section about Texture Filtering / Shimmering has a doubled paragraph in the beginning

this has been a great read so far

Uber_Tiny · Nov 27, 2006, 03:35 PM

Damn Ratchet!

That's a hell of a review.
Nice read and tons of info on pretty much everything you need to know.

Ratchet · Nov 27, 2006, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_B_W

We do not know if it lived up to the hype or not. We will not know untill we see it running some dx10 software.

Another thing: The 9700 was at least as great a leap over anything before it, hell even a great leap over the 5800 that came after it. So stop with the ass kissing please.

I think if you go back and read the reviews you would see that the 9700 Pro wasn't twice as fast as the Ti4600, and it certainly wasn't twice as fast as the FX 5800. It was a leap in progress, for sure, and a legitimate comparison can be made, but as far as performance (and to a lesser extend features) goes it was definitely not as great.

***Lupine*** · Nov 27, 2006, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B_B_W

We do not know if it lived up to the hype or not. We will not know untill we see it running some dx10 software.

Another thing: The 9700 was at least as great a leap over anything before it, hell even a great leap over the 5800 that came after it. So stop with the ass kissing please.

No ass kissing present. The 9700 Pro was my first "big investment" card and it lasted me far longer than any card before or since. One big reason was its proficiency with DX9 based games. In fact, a friend of mine is still running that card quite happily.

Similarly, while I love what I'm seeing w/ the 8800x series (enough so that I plan to invest in one), I cannot speak to its DX10 proficiency until we see those titles hitting the floor. But my expectations are high and, from a design standpoint, I see nothing that leads me to believe that the 8800x series will disappoint.

icecold1983 · Nov 27, 2006, 04:36 PM

great review, u still have the best graphing of any review site, more sites should copy your template with a single graph but the ability to switch between settings at the top. so much easier than looking at multiple graphs of the same game.

acroig · Nov 27, 2006, 04:44 PM

Great review, Mark, well worth the wait.

Ratchet · Nov 27, 2006, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragster128

The section about Texture Filtering / Shimmering has a doubled paragraph in the beginning

this has been a great read so far

Copy/paste error. Fixed it.
thanks for pointing it out.

ChrisW77 · Nov 27, 2006, 04:50 PM

Ass kissing ?
This was one of the best reviews on the web, period. And, it's on a ATI fansite.

Great review, Ratchet. I've been eyeing up this wonderful card for a long time, and it's now in my next upgrade.

R600, doesn't really interest me. New card, same ATI drivers, and same ATI problems. Fix ****, break ****. Hell, I can't even get DVI working on my X800, as it just goes to sleep.

cvearl · Nov 27, 2006, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisW77

Ass kissing ?
This was one of the best reviews on the web, period. And, it's on a ATI fansite.

Great review, Ratchet. I've been eyeing up this wonderful card for a long time, and it's now in my next upgrade.

R600, doesn't really interest me. New card, same ATI drivers, and same ATI problems. Fix ****, break ****. Hell, I can't even get DVI working on my X800, as it just goes to sleep.

Hmmm...

I do not have any more issue with my ATI than I do with my nVidia. I think you have ****ty luck or you card is screwed.

C.

gamefoo21 · Nov 27, 2006, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisW77

Ass kissing ?
This was one of the best reviews on the web, period. And, it's on a ATI fansite.

Great review, Ratchet. I've been eyeing up this wonderful card for a long time, and it's now in my next upgrade.

R600, doesn't really interest me. New card, same ATI drivers, and same ATI problems. Fix ****, break ****. Hell, I can't even get DVI working on my X800, as it just goes to sleep.

BWAHAHAHA....

On a more serious note, I'd say your dvi connector is borked. Why do I speak this....

9700Pro = Dvi fine
9800Pro = dvi fine
9800XT = dvi fine
X700Pro = dvi fine
X800Xt = dvi fine
X1800XL = dual dvi fine

But lets blame ati and their ****ty drivers when we are probably an nvidiot. I've been through more cat drivers on those cards than I care to count.

Disclaimer: I realize this may be taken as a flame post but it is not, unless your some nvidiot trying to slander ati, then I flame you. If not I honestly think you have a hardware problem.

badboy · Nov 27, 2006, 05:44 PM

great review but would be even greater if you could have tested it with a C2D proc

ChrisW77 · Nov 27, 2006, 06:03 PM

Usual bunch of rabid fanboy bullcrap posts.

Yes, lets all blame the borked card, shall we.
How very droll.

If anyone's ass kissing, it's the ATI ass kissing that goes on here.

Pathetic.
Grow the **** up.

**Pr()ZaC** · Nov 27, 2006, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badboy

great review but would be even greater if you could have tested it with a C2D proc

Why? The X2/FX is just as good in 3D tests. Read the comparison somewhere on the hardware section.

Anyway, Rage3D is not an ATi fansite anymore, at least not compared to its past. Sure, there still are fierce ATi fans in this board, but not as many as before.
Perhaps that's why most of the ATi employees decided to jump ship.

monkeydust · Nov 27, 2006, 06:05 PM

Nice DHTML use in your review!

Wish the memory on the GTS would have clocked higher for the review though.

Too bad NV can't put out any drivers for the 8800 for Vista to test though.

**Pr()ZaC** · Nov 27, 2006, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeydust

Nice DHTML use in your review!

Wish the memory on the GTS would have clocked higher for the review though.

Too bad NV can't put out any drivers for the 8800 for Vista to test though.

Methinks we'll see something soon.

radE8 · Nov 27, 2006, 06:36 PM

Wow, what an INCREDIBLE review. As you reviewed nvidia's latest, you gave credit where credit is due to ATi. Not one slight. Not at all. You called it like it is. Where ATi has been there and done that, you brought that front and center. VERY VERY NICE! Where NVIDIA excels, you brought that to light also, but again, that was mitigated with what ATi has accomplished since the 9700. Very cool.

THIS is how an ATi fansite (I know your site is trying to be agnostic but just go with this for now) reviews cards. THIS is how ATi posts on rage3d again. BRAVO!

HalcYoN [nV] · Nov 27, 2006, 07:02 PM

Excellent review, well worth the wait. The time and effort Mark put into the review shows.

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Ratchet The Tool Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Rock Posts: 10,415	Rage3D GeForce 8-Series Review I've just published my review of two GeForce 8-Series graphics cards, BFG's 8800 GTX and XFX's 8800 GTS, based on the G80 graphics processing unit. Here's a snip: Regardless of your foreknowledge of all things G80 I will restate this simple fact of recent history here: on November the 8th NVIDIA released the G80 GPU, what is arguably the biggest advancement in graphics technology since Ernie Coombs invented the pixel in his tickle trunk during his spare time. It does away with so many of the standard conventions of GPU design that the G80 can almost be considered a whole new approach to graphics hardware. It’s akin to the technological leap from piston powered engines to jet engines. Faster, more efficient, and immediately obsoletes everything before it. Rage3D GeForce 8-Series Review __________________ 7

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Nov 27, 2006, 12:12 PM	#2
Pirate Neilsouth Pissed Pirate Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Somewhere on mars! Posts: 20,226	I skipped alot of it as it was way to techy for me , but from bits of it i did understand like the af... this card is amazing

Nov 27, 2006, 12:59 PM	#5
Ratchet The Tool Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Rock Posts: 10,415	That's my goal, to be featured in ads and sound bytes __________________ 7

Nov 27, 2006, 01:02 PM	#6
cvearl God uses ATI. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 6,011	Great review. Thanks. Can you say AMD/ATI = PWNED?!?! At least for now. Although we all knew it already. If I was buying a card today. And IF I had that kind of scratch ($450 US). The 8800GTS is an incredible product for the price. For comparisons sake, the X1950XTX needs to be about $379 now IMO. But lowest I have been seeing is $409. Average $429. Really too bad ATI will be 3 or so months to answer this. C. __________________ *Always 2 there are....* Master: Intel C2D 8400 (3.0GHz) \| 4GB PC2-6400 RAM \| ATI Radeon 4870 \| AUDIGY SOUND \| Samsung 2232GW 22" WS LCD \| Vista 32bit SP1 Apprentice: AMD A64 3200+ \| 2GB PC3200 RAM \| X1900XT 256MB \| Onboard Sound \| 19" Samsung 931c LCD What I usually play?? Flight and Racing Simulations! :) Battle of Britain II:Wings of Victory, GTR2, Race 07 and Richard Burns Rally (Best Rally SIM of all time). I only stop simming if something exceptional comes out. Playing now? With my 4870. ;)

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Nov 27, 2006, 01:48 PM	#9
AllexxisF1 Butter's Fan Club. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Treasure Coast, Florida Posts: 3,755	Great review Ratchet and might I add one of the most professional I have seen on the web. The G80 really did not pwned ATi just yet. The real proof in the pudding as it were is who runs Crysis best the day it comes out. The very first DX10 game will be the benchmark for both camps and determines where our cash end up.

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Nov 27, 2006, 02:32 PM	#10
cvearl God uses ATI. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 6,011	OK. That is only the 2nd time I have used the word pwnd in my life I think. And I get slapped. Hahahaha. All I meant by pwned is that they out launched ATI again for the 3rd time in 1 and a half years. And no answer in the near future from ATI. So there was a little pwnage there. That's all. This was without a doubt a 9700Pro class release from nVidia. It cannot be denied and I am an ATI fan saying this. I am not afraid for AMD/ATI though. I do firmly believe that that will be the last time it happens. AMD is VERY aggressive. Just look at what they managed to do to Intel for the last few years. If I was to think someone needed to be afraid, it would be nVidia IMO. AMD is one tough customer. ATI has some VERY smart engineers. The combination could be very tough. C. __________________ *Always 2 there are....* Master: Intel C2D 8400 (3.0GHz) \| 4GB PC2-6400 RAM \| ATI Radeon 4870 \| AUDIGY SOUND \| Samsung 2232GW 22" WS LCD \| Vista 32bit SP1 Apprentice: AMD A64 3200+ \| 2GB PC3200 RAM \| X1900XT 256MB \| Onboard Sound \| 19" Samsung 931c LCD What I usually play?? Flight and Racing Simulations! :) Battle of Britain II:Wings of Victory, GTR2, Race 07 and Richard Burns Rally (Best Rally SIM of all time). I only stop simming if something exceptional comes out. Playing now? With my 4870. ;)

Nov 27, 2006, 03:31 PM	#14
ragster128 Misanthrope Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 321	The section about Texture Filtering / Shimmering has a doubled paragraph in the beginning this has been a great read so far

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Nov 27, 2006, 04:36 PM	#18
icecold1983 Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 4,866	great review, u still have the best graphing of any review site, more sites should copy your template with a single graph but the ability to switch between settings at the top. so much easier than looking at multiple graphs of the same game.

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Nov 27, 2006, 04:44 PM	#19
acroig Rage3D Veteran Join Date: May 2004 Location: GA Posts: 17,336	Great review, Mark, well worth the wait.

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Nov 27, 2006, 04:50 PM	#21
ChrisW77 Stuck in the 80's Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 394	Ass kissing ? This was one of the best reviews on the web, period. And, it's on a ATI fansite. Great review, Ratchet. I've been eyeing up this wonderful card for a long time, and it's now in my next upgrade. R600, doesn't really interest me. New card, same ATI drivers, and same ATI problems. Fix **, break **. Hell, I can't even get DVI working on my X800, as it just goes to sleep.

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Nov 27, 2006, 05:44 PM	#24
badboy Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 9,991	great review but would be even greater if you could have tested it with a C2D proc __________________ *”Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I’m not sure about the former.”* - Albert Einstein *"I am against religion because it teaches us to be satisfied with not understanding the world."* - Richard Dawkins *"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."* - Ben Franklin *"I'll happily keep risking it and enjoy my life"* - Doozer Boycott Steam EU pricing: http://www.steamunpowered.eu/

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Nov 27, 2006, 06:03 PM	#25
ChrisW77 Stuck in the 80's Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 394	Usual bunch of rabid fanboy bullcrap posts. Yes, lets all blame the borked card, shall we. How very droll. If anyone's ass kissing, it's the ATI ass kissing that goes on here. Pathetic. Grow the **** up.

Nov 27, 2006, 06:05 PM	#27
monkeydust Rage3D Veteran Join Date: May 2003 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 9,822	Nice DHTML use in your review! Wish the memory on the GTS would have clocked higher for the review though. Too bad NV can't put out any drivers for the 8800 for Vista to test though. __________________ Intel Core i7 920 @ 3500 MHz 6GB Corsair Dominator DDR3 EVGA E758-A1 3-Way SLI Sapphire ATI 5870 900/1300 Intel G2 160GB SSD Dell 2408WFP 24" Widescreen LCD Windows 7 64-bit

monkeydust's System Specs
Motherboard	Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
CPU	AMD X2 4800
Graphics	eVGA 8800 GTS
Memory	3GB OCZ 3200
Display	Dell 2001FP 20.1" LCD
Soundcard & Speakers	Creative X-FI
Hard-Drives	2 x 300GB SATA2 Maxtor
Optical Drives	NEC ND-3500A
Power Supply	OCZ 600w
Case	Lian Li 1200
Input Devices	MS Bluetooth Desktop
Operating System	Windows XP Pro

Nov 27, 2006, 06:36 PM	#29
radE8 Rage3D Veteran Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,981	Wow, what an INCREDIBLE review. As you reviewed nvidia's latest, you gave credit where credit is due to ATi. Not one slight. Not at all. You called it like it is. Where ATi has been there and done that, you brought that front and center. VERY VERY NICE! Where NVIDIA excels, you brought that to light also, but again, that was mitigated with what ATi has accomplished since the 9700. Very cool. THIS is how an ATi fansite (I know your site is trying to be agnostic but just go with this for now) reviews cards. THIS is how ATi posts on rage3d again. BRAVO!

Nov 27, 2006, 07:02 PM	#30
HalcYoN [nV] Where are my pants? Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 502	Excellent review, well worth the wait. The time and effort Mark put into the review shows. __________________ Brian - aka HalcYoN 3.0GHz Quad, 4870, 2x2GB, 750GB, X-Fi Prelude, P5B Dlx, Vista x64 2000 ///M Coupe \| Cosmos/Kyalami in the garage.

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Motherboard	Asus P5B Deluxe
CPU	Intel Core 2 Duo Quad Q6600 9x333
Graphics	Visiontek ATI Radeon HD 4870
Memory	Patriot 2x2GB DDR2-667 3-3-3-8
Cooling Solution	Thermalright 120 Extreme, Antec Slot Cooler for the 8800 GTX
Display	Gateway FPD2485W 24" LCD
Soundcard & Speakers	Auzentech X-Prelude 7.1, Logitech Z5300
Hard-Drives	WD 750GB SE16, WD SE16 750GB External
Optical Drives	Lite-ON DVD-ROM, NEC 3520 DVD-RW
Power Supply	Antec Neo HE 550
Case	Lian Li V1000, CM 1200rpm LED fans
Input Devices	Saitek Eclipse with Razer Copperhead
Operating System	Windows Vista Ultimate x64
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