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Old Feb 21, 2006, 06:43 PM   #1
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Does anybody get stuttering with any of the drivers and what card
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Old Feb 21, 2006, 06:59 PM   #2
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Well, unfortunately you know my story - almost the same as yours!!!
My MSI RD480 NEO2-FI mobo should be here tomorrow afternoon - and I will do a fresh install on my spare HD as usual. At that time the only thing left (for me) that has not been swapped out would be the CPU. Man, I just don't think its that since my system doesn't stutter with the 7800gtx installed.
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I would like to see the results of the non nforce4 chipset mobo switch, I have some stuttering in games but only if all settings are up in most cases (which is usually expected) but I do have bad stuttering in NFSMW...
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i have eliminated most of the stuttering from games like FEAR and NFSMW by increasing the FSB as far as my cpu would handle ,

im running the FSB @ 295mhz with 1:1 ratio , so 295mhz ram speed not 200mhz default ,

i do still have stuttering ocasionally in games like BF2 and FEAR but that only happens on the harddrive access (i have raid0)i think if i upgrade my harddrives the stuttering should dissapear completely
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Have you guys tried just using triple buffering with Vsync on - you'll need to use ATItraytools for tb.
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I would like to see the results of the non nforce4 chipset mobo switch, I have some stuttering in games but only if all settings are up in most cases (which is usually expected) but I do have bad stuttering in NFSMW...
My mobo is on the truck and out for delivery - so hopefully it will be waiting when I get home tonight. I will first do a fresh XP load with the ATI card and pray for no stuttering.

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Have you guys tried just using triple buffering with Vsync on - you'll need to use ATItraytools for tb.
Unfortunately I have an x1900xtx - and ATITT crashes when you go into 3D mode (unless you tell TT not to load a profile when detecting 3D). Its on his list of to do items - when he gets one of these cards! I have tried that before though - same issue.
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Have you guys tried just using triple buffering with Vsync on - you'll need to use ATItraytools for tb.
Yep no change
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can you change your MB or transport memory and CPU to other MB to test if MB is faulty?
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can you change your MB or transport memory and CPU to other MB to test if MB is faulty?
Thats what I am doing later today:
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My mobo is on the truck and out for delivery - so hopefully it will be waiting when I get home tonight. I will first do a fresh XP load with the ATI card and pray for no stuttering.
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can you change your MB or transport memory and CPU to other MB to test if MB is faulty?
Nope dont have another one to test.. nor anybody in my area to test with
or any money to buy other components
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For some reason I get crazy stutterin if I dont use Vsync. I always thought things would run smoother without it but its not so in my case. Give it a try, especially with FEAR
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Yup Vsync fixes for me.

Although some games run better with Vysnc off for reason.
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well, I have installed my new MSI mobo and there is no change. Therefore its either the CPU or x1900xtx, and since FEAR runs fine with this CPU with my 7800gtx - it must be my *$%$@# card. So, tomorrow I will call Newegg to start the wonderful RMA process.
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You and me both weasel... i feel i wasted my money

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I have a x850 and what a waste of money. Can't run Call of duty 2 well unless everything is down. Have all the latest drivers and bios. WTF?!?!?! Also, tweaked my comp according to tweakguide.com. Nothing.
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Not to be nasty to you ironrice but id rather have the odd performance problem than constant game stuttering and jerky movie playback
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Not to be nasty to you ironrice but id rather have the odd performance problem than constant game stuttering and jerky movie playback
I used to own an X800 XTPE and I had some stuttering in games esp in HL2. Played the same levels with 7800GT and no stuttering. With ATI card this was evident on lots of drivers.

I can't see any "shimmering" on my GT so all I can say is "shimmering" worse than "stuttering" which I have seen, probably not but that's my opinion.

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Just built a machine with a X1800XT. I've tried a bunch of games and if the stuttering didn't appear in Far Cry, I'm sure it won't appear in HL2 (which I'll test in front of the costumer).
Shimmering and stuttering aren't related and I can confirm that shimmering is present on the 7800 line and much more evident (still need to see it on the X1800).
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Not to be nasty to you ironrice but id rather have the odd performance problem than constant game stuttering and jerky movie playback
Well I think my next card will most definitely be an nvidia graphics card.
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Well I think my next card will most definitely be an nvidia graphics card.
I had nvidia before , it had a little stutter when frame rates dropped off
in special forces... but it was NOTHING like this card , this is just awful
it goes way back to the days of the radeon when i had to use drivers 5.11
and below to stop the stuttering.

Really sad and i have no money to sort this out
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Well I think my next card will most definitely be an nvidia graphics card.
btw what games do you get stuttering in?
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I think im going to sell this card its causing me to cry i cant play any games
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have you tried lowering the PCI=E 16x to 8x ?just to see if its a connection problem
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someone else also mentioned that Utrion but i have yet to find the option
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in one case that i know in another (greek forum) with same problems with a new motherboard the problems where solved(he also had your MB excactly) !!but why the first thing you must do is get your card to another pc and try it there !!!if the problems are still there then RMA it (probably alot of people would have told you that sorry for repeating but its the only way to be sure if the card is faulty)
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in one case that i know in another (greek forum) with same problems with a new motherboard the problems where solved(he also had your MB excactly) !!but why the first thing you must do is get your card to another pc and try it there !!!if the problems are still there then RMA it (probably alot of people would have told you that sorry for repeating but its the only way to be sure if the card is faulty)
So what your saying is the other guy had the same problem as i did
on the same board and changed it to 8X mode and it worked?

btw i dont know anybody near me with pcie let alone a computer
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So what your saying is the other guy had the same problem as i did
on the same board and changed it to 8X mode and it worked?

btw i dont know anybody near me with pcie let alone a computer
nohe changed his motherboard and the problems solved!!!!!!!!!!
but here is this thread the other guy also changed his MB and nothing happened
you must find another pc to test it and then if everything is the same then rma the card i rma one x1800xl and waiting the card back another firend of mine rmed his 6800ultra but no card came back (from gainward)
i am sure you have tried non official drivers?
and the stuttering it happnes is it like every second ?random or something else?what your HDD settings and try 8x pci-e may help but will lower bandwidht
try lowering sound setting or possible play the game with sound disabled(probably you have thried this too)
lower the CPU and untight your memory timings to the worst possible ones and then see if your motherboard fan is ok? and make HTT miltuplier to the lowest
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i was searching about all the solution you tried and show this thread here!!!!!!
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthre...ight=neilsouth

hmmmm you still have the x1800xtpe bios??????????
maybe its a setting with the memory timing on your ATI that the memories installed arent able to keep 24/7 and this doesnt change if you lower the MHz but only if you change back the memory timmings!!!!
or your stuttering was there also when you didnt apllied the bios?

EDIT:from what i see (the dates) you problems started 1 day after you wanted the PT bios
mybe this is the root of all the evil?
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EDIT:from what i see (the dates) you problems started 1 day after you wanted the PT bios
mybe this is the root of all the evil?
Does seem to be doesnt it , even though i flashed back to the original bios
the problem remains... its hard to tell did the flash bugger up the card
i researched it beforehand and it is a 6 mosfet card. Really dont understand
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So what your saying is the other guy had the same problem as i did
on the same board and changed it to 8X mode and it worked?

btw i dont know anybody near me with pcie let alone a computer
Dude, are you using Cat 6.2's? 'Cause if you are I know
exactly whats happening...
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