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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Just wanted to be the first to let everybody know ![]() btw all of you saying that the new driver will be released one day before Ati chat were right )New Pci-e support Issues Reported to be Resolved
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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yaaaaaay doom3 apparently works! now all i have to do is revert to xfree 4.3 weeeeeeeeeee!!!!! on the bright side fixing the doom3 issues seem to be a positive step forward. can anyone confirm the bug fixes? |
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Still no 6.8 xorg support? ![]() So much hope and anticipation...for what? So we could play doom 3 @ 15 fps on XFree 4.3?? ![]()
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There is no x.org 6.8.1 support!!! Is it a joke ? |
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I don't know if I should laugh or cry... Let's cry together ![]() Last edited by speculos : Nov 9, 2004 at 05:50 PM. |
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I'm not getting tooo excited here BUT if you look at http://apps.ati.com/linuxDfeedback/ it does now show Xorg in the X versions drop down... perhaps we're getting somewhere (I was just gonna fill a thing in for no Xorg driver download) |
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thats a big joke, what distros use XFree86 now? Meanwhile, nvidia releases some top quality drivers once again. |
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Well, I won't play with Fedora Core 3 today ![]() |
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Ok, i tried it with doom3 and it seems to work as it is supposed to. However it did freeze my machine, but maybe it wasn't really its fault because i have a rather experimental nforce2 on the fly fsb changing module for powersaving, i'll try it a little more with the module disabled. If you wanna know what is the performance like, 2600xp,nforce2,r9800pro,512mb,debian testing 2.6.8-1-k7 does in timedemo 1 640x480 38,2 fps. For comparison go here http://www.linuxhardware.org/article.../10/12/1725246 If anyone wants i can do more benchmarks (i will do probably anyway) |
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Maybe this release won't get the price for the lamest release ever... but....! Gah, ok, I'll complain after the chat. |
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I've been sticking with ATi for a while, in hopes that they would get some better linux drivers. While the drivers are better, they are still a long way from what I would call stable. I guess I'll wait and hope the next driver release will be even better. I'm sure they will be. ![]()
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Someone should try these with Xorg 6.8. |
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They DO NOT WORK PROPERLY WITH 6.8 ![]() I tried em out and they work okay if dri is disabled, but if dri is enabled tis a big no go. Tis a pity, I really want to try out Doom3 (had it for a few weeks and have no windows to try it on) I use gentoo with Gnome 2.8, xorg 6.8.0 and kernel 2.6.9 (xorg-6.8.0-r2 and gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.9-r2) Module loaded okay: Quote:
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(II) Loading extension ATIFGLRXDRI
(II) fglrx(0): doing DRIScreenInit
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID PCI:2:0:0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK)
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 4
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card1
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card2
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card3
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card4
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card5
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card6
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card7
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card8
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card9
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card10
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card11
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card12
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card13
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card14
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1023
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK)
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 4, (OK)
drmGetBusid returned ''
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] DRM interface version 1.0
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] created "fglrx" driver at busid "PCI:2:0:0"
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xe2265000
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xe2265000 to 0xb7cc6000
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xc8000000
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) fglrx(0): DRIScreenInit done
(II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module Version Information:
(II) fglrx(0): Name: fglrx
(II) fglrx(0): Version: 3.14.6
(II) fglrx(0): Date: Oct 30 2004
(II) fglrx(0): Desc: ATI Fire GL DRM kernel module
(II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module version matches driver.
(II) fglrx(0): Kernel Module Build Time Information:
(II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel UTS_RELEASE: 2.6.9-gentoo-r2
(II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel MODVERSIONS: no
(II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel __SMP__: no
(II) fglrx(0): Build-Kernel PAGE_SIZE: 0x1000
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] register handle = 0xda000000
(II) fglrx(0): [agp] Mode=0x1f00421b bridge: 0x10de/0x01e0
(II) fglrx(0): [agp] AGP v1/2 disable mask 0x00000000
(II) fglrx(0): [agp] AGP v3 disable mask 0x00000000
(II) fglrx(0): [agp] enabling AGP with mode=0x1f00431a
(II) fglrx(0): [agp] AGP protocoll is enabled for grafics board. (cmd=0x1f004312)
(II) fglrx(0): [agp] grafics chipset has AGP v3.0 (native mode)
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] ringbuffer size = 0x00100000 bytes
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] DRM buffer queue setup: nbufs = 100 bufsize = 28672
(II) fglrx(0): [drm] texture shared area handle = 0xea501000
(II) fglrx(0): shared FSAAScale=1
(II) fglrx(0): DRI initialization successfull!
(II) fglrx(0): FBADPhys: 0xc8000000 FBMappedSize: 0x00701000
(II) fglrx(0): FBMM initialized for area (0,0)-(1280,1434)
(II) fglrx(0): FBMM auto alloc for area (0,0)-(1280,1024) (front color buffer - assumption)
(==) fglrx(0): Backing store disabled
(==) fglrx(0): Silken mouse enabled
(II) fglrx(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 1024)
(II) fglrx(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1280 x 402
(**) Option "dpms"
(**) fglrx(0): DPMS enabled
(II) fglrx(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA)
Screen to screen bit blits
Solid filled rectangles
8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles
Solid Lines
Dashed Lines
Offscreen Pixmaps
Setting up tile and stipple cache:
30 128x128 slots
(II) fglrx(0): Acceleration enabled
(II) fglrx(0): X context handle = 0x00000001
(II) fglrx(0): [DRI] installation complete
(II) fglrx(0): Direct rendering enabled
(II) Loading extension FGLRXEXTENSION
(II) Loading extension ATITVOUT
(==) RandR enabled
(II) Setting vga for screen 0.
(II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
(II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
(II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
(II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
(II) Initializing built-in extension LBX
(II) Initializing built-in extension XC-APPGROUP
(II) Initializing built-in extension SECURITY
(II) Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
(II) Initializing built-in extension XFree86-Bigfont
(II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
(II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
(II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
(II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
(II) Initializing built-in extension XEVIE
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If you have no Windows to use I'd seriously suggest you buy a nVidia product. The quality of ATIs driver has been going steadily downhill ever since they in-housed its development, and they've stated multiple times that they don't feel it's in their financial interest to develop a propper driver on par with their Windows one. I've been waiting with baited breath for the AGP version of the GeForce 6600 for a while now just so I could justify my purchase in terms of price/performance. If I didn't run Windows at all though, I'd sooner throw a Radeon 8500 in there instead of the 9500 Pro I have now. My bad performance would at least be stable then. |
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ATI Linux Manager
Join Date: Aug 2003
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This is merely a respin of the 3.14.1 drivers with patches as decribed. It does *NOT* replace the release targeted approximately two months from the 3.14.1 release. I will be describing in more detail what release versions can be interpreted as, and how our releases work on the Chat on Thursday. If the drivers download pages do not advertise 6.8 support, do not expect the x430 driver to just work with XOrg 6.8 Regards, Matthew Last edited by mtippett : Nov 9, 2004 at 10:48 PM. |
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Sorry to be mean, but I expect more. |
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ATI Linux Manager
Join Date: Aug 2003
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As I said, this is akin to a *HOT FIX*, and does not replace the standard incremental driver release due every two months. It does *not* represent anywhere near 1 months work, and it does *not* represent part of our standard release process, it merely represents (as stated before) a respin of 3.14.1 with patches from our development tree for the purposes of fixing doom3 stability. Some extra changes were included as an artefact of our development process. If you could highlight to me your interpretation and expectation of driver development in a commercial environment and how you see things developed and how soon from a developers hands to an end users driver directory, then I will be able to come up with some points for discussion at the chat on Thursday. |
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1) Your never learn anything if you do not try... 2) Xorg 6.8 has been out for a while now and ATI drivers STILL do not work with it... I guess this means driver version 3.20.7 will be compatible with xorg 6.8.0, because ATI linux driver numbering appears from the outside to be quite random. Catalyst drivers go 4.9,4.10,4.11 etc.... linux drivers go 3.11, 3.12, 3.14.1, 3.14.6. They make no sense unless you are familiar with the software development cycle (I know that internally it probably makes perfect sense, but to outsider it certainly does not). If am very much looking forward to this chat, because I really hope it will help to explain ATI's plans and attitude towards linux. Anyway, I am currently emerging xorg 6.7 to see how that goes. From memory the fglrx drivers DID work with xorg 6.7, even if it was unadvertised. However much thanks to Matthew Tippet for taking the time to actually to post and reply, tis nice to know the developers sometimes take notice of what we users have to say ....
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3) Commercial Distributions only recently (SuSE 9.2) picked up 6.8. 4) If it doesn't work, and isn't advertised, don't complain that it doesn't work (see comments expressing disappointment that they didn't work above). Quote:
Be prepared for a reset in the Linux version number with the December Release, but keep in mind what I have just said in the preceding paragraph. Quote:
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Thanks for all the information and now I am REALLY looking forward to the results of that chat.
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So Matt is the December release going to be that big? Care to drop us a hint or two of what to expect...? ![]()
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ATI Linux Manager
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![]() My policy (which consequently matches ATI's Linux Policy) is to not talk about upcoming releases until they are released. There are a few areas that I consider proprietary and commercially sensitive, and I will state it clearly in the Chat. |
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I dont see why it matters if a Commercial distro picked it up or not, considering the majority of Linux users use standard distros now such as Fedora, Mandrake, Slackware, and Gentoo. (which all use X.org 6.8)
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muahaha i'm always excited about presents around december! maybe that driver release will be magical! just the notion that this driver release is a hot fix should get people excited too. i mean.. at least they're actually dealing with bugs and releasing fixes for them. i'm actually quite pleased! my hope has been replenished good job mr. tippett! hope you and your team keep rolling out better drivers ![]() edit: sorry i got the two t's but forgot the two p's =P Last edited by crEEpy : Nov 10, 2004 at 01:05 AM. |
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Ah, thanks Matthew for clearing that up! I was getting a little worried that this *was* the release. Doom3 does indeed work here, although it locked up the first time I tried to run the timedemo to test it. I've been unable to reproduce the problem though, so it could've been anything. Code:
Nov 11 02:41:43 disoft-dc [fglrx:firegl_addmap] *ERROR* cannot create differentmap at same offset 0xc1cda000 Nov 11 02:41:43 disoft-dc [fglrx:firegl_alloc_bufs] *ERROR* Unable to add buffer mapping, buffer type: 2 )Well, I'll be at the chat, and looking forward to the next release. -d4rk74m4 |
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d4rk74m4, In reference to http://www.rage3d.com/board/showpost...8&postcount=99, 1 out of six isn't too bad for an interim release .See you all at the Chat... (Or at least at the post chat threads ![]() |
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Haha! No it's not, and it was a fairly major issue for some users aswell. The rest of my list still stands for the next release then ![]() ![]() |
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