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Old Feb 19, 2009, 08:46 AM   #1
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I love the game. But I hate the end boss.

I can't figure out how to counter all his teleport or jump ins immediately followed by an unblockable grab super moves. I can walk through each character, only to spend countless times restarting on Seth. And when I finally do beat him, it doesn't feel like I accomplished anything as its usually because he decided not to try as hard, and not that I figured out anything monumental in how to overcome him. So far the best way I've figured out to beat him is to use an Ultra Combo and a Super Combo back to back with a good head start. But with some characters, I can't quite pull off those combo attacks at will and at perfect timing yet.

I don't really like it when they take characters and give them an endless chain of unstoppable or unblockable attacks. Also, he seems to be able to absorb some attacks and have projectile attacks pass through him.

Maybe I just haven't figured out the trick yet in beating him. But as of right now he feels cheap and unfair to have to fight. I like difficulty, but not at the expense of balance.
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Old Feb 19, 2009, 08:55 AM   #2
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seth can be use in rank match in sf4 ......
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Old Feb 19, 2009, 10:02 AM   #3
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seth can be use in rank match in sf4 ......
Do you ever post anything that makes sense? I mean, besides all your PS3 advertising.
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Old Feb 19, 2009, 10:11 AM   #5
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Do you ever post anything that makes sense? I mean, besides all your PS3 advertising.
well i thought he is saying seth is overpowered... which i just add that he can even be used in online rank match....
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Old Feb 19, 2009, 10:13 AM   #6
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I havent played it. But Im sure he is probably looking for some tips in beating Seth as too playing him.

amirite?
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I havent played it. But Im sure he is probably looking for some tips in beating Seth as too playing him.

amirite?
yea, but Seth is really Cheap , he can just teleport whenever he wants.
and whereever he wants to.

most of the time he will be teleporting himself a few times, until you dunno where the heck he wants to go . then suddenly he will be right beside you and do his normal crazy attack that can't be countered.

and his ultra combo, you won't have place to hide, since he can just suck you into him and decrease your hp for about 1/4th or more.


He is just overpowered, and he can be use online

even in easy lvl mode he still crazy as hell. mayeb i just suck lol
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yea, but Seth is really Cheap , he can just teleport whenever he wants.
and whereever he wants to.

most of the time he will be teleporting himself a few times, until you dunno where the heck he wants to go . then suddenly he will be right beside you and do his normal crazy attack that can't be countered.

and his ultra combo, you really have no where to hide, since he can just suck you into him and decrease your hp for about 1/4th or more.


He is just overpowered, and he can be use online

even in easy lvl mode he still crazy as hell. mayeb i just suck lol
He mentioned this is his original post. This we already know. Im sure he would still appreciate a pointer or two on how to take him down.
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Old Feb 19, 2009, 10:42 AM   #9
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sorry to say, i can only beat him on the easiest level without getting angry and dejected at the game.
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sorry to say, i can only beat him on the easiest level without getting angry and dejected at the game.
Well, then I feel pretty good as I've been him twice now on Medium difficulty.
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Jeez I must really suck...I wasn't even able to beat him on easy at all last night. I tried like 7 times and then just quit. All I want to do is unlock the other characters and I can't even achieve that. I can beat him the first round, but his second round I can barely get a hit in.

I'm still having trouble pulling off the Super combos and Ultra combos. Seems like I get those on chance, but when I do manage it they block it every fricking time.
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Old Feb 19, 2009, 11:18 AM   #12
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Its really to early to tell if Seth is playable in actual play or night. But boss characters are usually banned from all tourneys anyways so it makes no sense to practice with him if he gets banned.
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Couple of things there. When Bison wins, it says Vega wins??? Also, why only a single fight? Seth is easy on the first round, but totally dominating the second.
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Couple of things there. When Bison wins, it says Vega wins??? Also, why only a single fight? Seth is easy on the first round, but totally dominating the second.
That's cause the names were swapped around in the US back in SF II to avoid legal trouble with Mike Tyson.

JP M. Bison = US Balrog
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JP Vega = US M. Bison

and Akuma is called Gouki in the JP version, though I don't know the motivation for that change.

As for Seth, when you play the game with single round matches, he should be starting off aggressive already (at least that's how it seems to me). I guess the player had it on easiest mode.
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Seth can lick my balls.


That is all.


He's a damn cheap bastard .
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He even bypasses my bigger fireballs... I hate it! Only dragon punches can defeat him... or so it seems!
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He even bypasses my bigger fireballs... I hate it! Only dragon punches can defeat him... or so it seems!
Hell I'm only playing on normal and he blocks every damn Dragon Punch I throw. The only way for me to beat him is to go slow and take it easy. Lots of turtling, only attack when you have a clear opening. I get beat down every time I go into the fight balls to the wall trying to throw everything I have at him all at once.

He makes for a good challenge that's for sure.
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That's cause the names were swapped around in the US back in SF II to avoid legal trouble with Mike Tyson.

JP M. Bison = US Balrog
JP Balrog = US Vega
JP Vega = US M. Bison

and Akuma is called Gouki in the JP version, though I don't know the motivation for that change.

As for Seth, when you play the game with single round matches, he should be starting off aggressive already (at least that's how it seems to me). I guess the player had it on easiest mode.
And to add to that, M. Bison stands for Mike Bison I'd love to play this and get my ass kicked by him, but my 360 is dead.
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Just coming here to report the obvious as well..

Seth is a lame, cheap bastard final boss. The game kicks ass, but the last boss is a shame. I wish you'd still had to fight Bison as the final boss, at least he has pedigree.

PS: I already unlocked all the characters (but for Ryu/ken's master).
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Hmm, I actually have more problems with Abel them I do with Seth. That bastard does nothing but throw me all over the place
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The best is to hit Abel with fireballs...
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I can't picture Bison being referred to as "Vega" even though that is his real name. Same with Vega being known as "Balrog". Seems weird to me.
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Well, I have to laugh at myself. The other night I was unaware that there were setting lower than easy. Once I set it to easiest it became ridiculously easy. I've managed to unlock all but Seth, but I should have him unlocked in the next couple of days. I'm also getting a lot better at the combos.

Has anyone figured out the focus attacks? I read about them briefly in the manual but I'm not sure if I am doing them correctly as I have no clue as to what it looks like when completed correctly.
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Can anyone figure out a better explanation for the SUPER/ULTRA combo for Akuma?

I don't understand it in the comands menu. (Specifically, what are those little "play" icons between inputs).
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Can anyone figure out a better explanation for the SUPER/ULTRA combo for Akuma?

I don't understand it in the comands menu. (Specifically, what are those little "play" icons between inputs).
Light punch -> Light punch -> Hold back and continue holding (forward for the super combo) -> Light kick -> Heavy punch

The "play" icons just indicate order of succession.
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Rugal Bernstein true form vs Seth, who wins? (Style and coolness wise Rugal wins hands down. )

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Light punch -> Light punch -> Hold back and continue holding (forward for the super combo) -> Light kick -> Heavy punch

The "play" icons just indicate order of succession.
Thanks, I'll try that out
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