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Old Jan 8, 2018, 12:47 PM   #271
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As for reluctance to hack it, it honestly doesn't matter much anyways. The way the hack software works is you can have a new menu for any uploaded ROMs, and keep all the stock games separate on the main screen if you want. There would just be one folder there to get to the extra games. Also, if you want you can always flash it back to the original kernel then uninstall the hakchi2 software and it will be back to original stock settings. These options are right in the drop down menus.

I honestly had the same concern about hacking it at first but when I saw that it does not do anything permanent and can be 100% reverted to stock I was happy. Yeah you can always just emulate on PC, that's totally valid, but its just nice to have a dedicated little box that is official for Nintendo, works great with no nonsense, and can hook right up to your TV. For me I just love to be able to add all those super expensive SNES games that I'll never afford.
In retrospect I think you're right. Hack the mofo.
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Old Jan 17, 2018, 03:49 PM   #272
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And out of stock again. Seriously, when does this bullshit end?
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And out of stock again. Seriously, when does this bullshit end?
Don't worry they come back in stock every week. Everyone should be able to get one now with minimal effort. Just use nowinstock to get text notifications.

I've gotten 3 notifications this week. Two from Amazon and one from Gamestop today.
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 09:37 AM   #275
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Don't worry they come back in stock every week. Everyone should be able to get one now with minimal effort. Just use nowinstock to get text notifications.

I've gotten 3 notifications this week. Two from Amazon and one from Gamestop today.
I can try. My job doesn't permit me to take a day off (hell even when you're sick they want you in) to camp in front of a store hoping they get some. Only chances I have are the weekends or after work.
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Old Jan 18, 2018, 09:47 AM   #276
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I can try. My job doesn't permit me to take a day off (hell even when you're sick they want you in) to camp in front of a store hoping they get some. Only chances I have are the weekends or after work.
No, the nowinstock.net notifications are for online purchases.

Seriously, I have been getting notifications of it coming back in stock at places like Amazon, and Gamestop's website couple times a week for the past few months. You shouldn't have to go into a brick and mortar location. Just set it up to use the nowinstock text notifications.
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I can try. My job doesn't permit me to take a day off (hell even when you're sick they want you in) to camp in front of a store hoping they get some. Only chances I have are the weekends or after work.
I didn't have to camp out to get one, just went to a store on my break. You get breaks right? Call ahead so you don't waste time.
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Finally got one! I used https://www.istocknow.com/ and got it at a Gamestop. They had 1.
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Got the last one in the case at my local Target this morning. istocknow said they had 1 left so I rolled the dice.
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Always good to hear more people finding them for MSRP.

Now just waiting on Nintendo to announce the re-release date for the NES Classic.
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I didn't have to camp out to get one, just went to a store on my break. You get breaks right? Call ahead so you don't waste time.
Nearest gamestop to where I am is 8 miles away. With our lunchtime traffic I could make it to the store on time, but never make it back before the hour is over.
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Site shows both my local GameStop and Walmart have an SNES classic in stock. Guess I'll stop by after work and see if it's true.
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No, the nowinstock.net notifications are for online purchases.

Seriously, I have been getting notifications of it coming back in stock at places like Amazon, and Gamestop's website couple times a week for the past few months. You shouldn't have to go into a brick and mortar location. Just set it up to use the nowinstock text notifications.
OK signed up for that thingy. Thanks, will give it a try.
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OK signed up for that thingy. Thanks, will give it a try.
Good luck, I'm sure you'll get one eventually.
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Local Best Buy had 6 sitting on the shelf
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Finally got one! This was sheer luck and completely random but I was going to the movies at an upscale mall in my city. My girlfriend and I were two hours early so we ate dinner and had some time to kill when I remembered they had a Gamestop. So I figured "meh, worst they can say is they don't have any" and when I walked in I asked the guy at the desk and he said "You are in luck, we have ONE left."

He explained that it was really dumb luck that I was there at that moment for the one they had left because they only get TWO in every 3 weeks and they always sell out on the day of the shipment (which is random). I guess I was just in the right place at the right time. He ask me if I was going to sell it online, I said "Hell no, I'm going to play it!".
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He explained that it was really dumb luck that I was there at that moment for the one they had left because they only get TWO in every 3 weeks and they always sell out on the day of the shipment (which is random). I guess I was just in the right place at the right time. He ask me if I was going to sell it online, I said "Hell no, I'm going to play it!".
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Saw about 10 of these in my local supermarket for 120 € each. Didn't buy, because I didn't play SNES games when they were new. I'm not sure how the games would feel like without the nostalgia.
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Saw about 10 of these in my local supermarket for 120 € each. Didn't buy, because I didn't play SNES games when they were new. I'm not sure how the games would feel like without the nostalgia.
Nostalgia helps a lot, unless you otherwise like games of that era or current Nintendo games.

However, after replaying Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past on my SNES Classic, I went right to playing through Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds on the 3DS and it was an overall awesome experience.
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Nostalgia is the main reason these things exist, for sure.

At the same time though, i believe there's no denying a lot of the SNES games are timeless great games. I do know one guy who never played the SNES as a kid and bought one of these and has been loving it.
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Saw about 10 of these in my local supermarket for 120 € each. Didn't buy, because I didn't play SNES games when they were new. I'm not sure how the games would feel like without the nostalgia.
The stock games are fantastic, if you like retro style games or retro games on other systems then you'll love a lot of what's on the SNES classic. I never played these games when the SNES was out either, but did play them via emulation for years.
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Saw one in a Gamespot in Kendall, Miami, $80, the box was damaged.

Also, I picked up my RDS case, will post some pictures later after I unpack my luggage.

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I bought a SNES mini last night for Ł65 at a local retailer in the UK.

My thoughts are;

Takes a bit of time to boot up. When I turn the thing off, you have to wait for it to actually power down and the light to go off before you can re-power it back on again.

I like the CRT filter, I have enabled that. I did notice a bit of graphical slow down when playing Mario World, is that normal?

The pads seem ok, though to me don't feel as well made as the originals. One pad seems really "clicky" and not great, the other one feels a bit better and has a slightly spongier feel to it which I much prefer. I dont own the NES classic so I have only heard about the cable length, however even these pads are pretty short. Modern TVs are overall much much larger so people sit back further, so I would have appreciated another metre of length.

The game choice seems pretty good from the get go, lots of classics on there. I have already modded my console, adding about another 25 games to make it near 46 in total (most of which I actually own the original carts for).

One negative aspect, I can sense a slight "lag" in the input. Does anyone else feel this? I press left or right and the input seems to take longer to respond than it should...?
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The slowdown in Mario World you mentioned might be due to the CRT filter being enabled, try without it. Not sure though.

The controller feels almost exact to a brand new original SNES controller to me. Of course it will feel slightly different, as they were manufactured nearly 30 years apart from each other. But they are close enough IMO that it doesn't really detract from the experience. As for cable length, yeah its short. There's lots of good aftermarket extension cables though that are relatively cheap. I bought a couple.

The lag you feel is normal. Its one of the big drawbacks to these new Classic consoles and why nothing beats playing on the original hardware!! All you can do is minimize it best you can by choosing a low lag HDTV, directly connect to it (not through any AV receiver first), and make sure all extra modern TV features are disabled.
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The SNES has a slow CPU and many of the games have slowdown on original hardware; if so, the emulation faithfully replicates it.

I still have a Sony Trinitron CRT and it remains the best way to experience older games. Nothing beats real 240p scanlines! Personally, I found Nintendo's CRT filter too blurry and think it looks better with the blurry bilinear filtering disabled (though still not quite authentic). See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/miniSNESmod...et_it_working/

BTW, mine was hacked within a few hours after buying it. IMO, hacking it and installing Retroarch really opens up the possibilities for the unit.

https://hakchiresources.com/2018/11/...dition-v3-5-2/

Lag comes from different sources, mostly the emulator and the display. SD CRTs have essentially zero lag, whilst modern flat panels can add a few frames of lag, making old-school, reaction-based, games feel sluggish. FWIW, I've found the SNES Classic's Canoe emulator is fairly minimal in terms of added lag when using my Panasonic plasma in game mode (which should help to reduce lag with most modern televisions).

As for the cables, some people have opted for a long HDMI cable as a solution.
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I also connect mine to a Panasonic plasma in game mode (all extra features turned OFF) and the lag is hardly noticeable, unless you're trying to beat Mike Tyson. Comparably, when I go to my brother's house and he has his connected to his new 4k HDTV and through a fancy AV receiver the lag is unbearable. I had him try connecting directly to his TV and it was a huge improvement, but still more lag than my Panasonic plasma.

Yes I agree CRT is still the best way to play these games,. Which is why these Classic consoles, and emulation in general for that matter is no threat to genuine retro gaming. I also have a Sony Trinitron and love it, but to be honest the actual best way to play is on a PVM with RGB mod for the NES, and for the SNES a proper RGB SCART cable. I've been lucky enough to try a PVM for gaming once at a friend's house and it was amazing.

I should also add though, I got the Hi-Def NES mod done and its pretty much just as good as gaming on a PVM visual quality wise. You just lose that nostalgia feeling of the CRT TV.

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Yes I agree CRT is still the best way to play these games,. Which is why these Classic consoles, and emulation in general for that matter is no threat to genuine retro gaming. I also have a Sony Trinitron and love it, but to be honest the actual best way to play is on a PVM with RGB mod for the NES, and for the SNES a proper RGB SCART cable. I've been lucky enough to try a PVM for gaming once at a friend's house and it was amazing.

I should also add though, I got the Hi-Def NES mod done and its pretty much just as good as gaming on a PVM visual quality wise. You just lose that nostalgia feeling of the CRT TV.
My SNES has an S-Video mod but hasn't been modded for RGB (yet). However, mostly I use my Wii outputting 240p via component cables, which is plenty sharp. My 27" Sony has been tweaked up for color, geometry, etc... so it looks as good as I can make it. From what I gather, PVMs have a somewhat different look than consumer Trinitrons, with some difference of opinion as to which is better; they are also limited in size, with 20" maximum. I did enjoy my dual 21" Trinitron computer monitors for years before they both stopped working and got recycled.

The Hi-Def NES looks cool, but the scanlines are not very realistic, IMO, which is a huge part of what made 240p gaming so special (and blocky/no-scanline 240p on an HD screen looks awful, IMO). That said, I've found some excellent shaders recently, like the zfast CRT shaders, which look more realistic (when used with an emulator).
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My SNES has an S-Video mod but hasn't been modded for RGB (yet). However, mostly I use my Wii outputting 240p via component cables, which is plenty sharp. My 27" Sony has been tweaked up for color, geometry, etc... so it looks as good as I can make it. From what I gather, PVMs have a somewhat different look than consumer Trinitrons, with some difference of opinion as to which is better; they are also limited in size, with 20" maximum. I did enjoy my dual 21" Trinitron computer monitors for years before they both stopped working and got recycled.

The Hi-Def NES looks cool, but the scanlines are not very realistic, IMO, which is a huge part of what made 240p gaming so special (and blocky/no-scanline 240p on an HD screen looks awful, IMO). That said, I've found some excellent shaders recently, like the zfast CRT shaders, which look more realistic (when used with an emulator).
Actually the first model of the SNES does not need a mod for RGB as it has it natively, F.Y.I. Just needs the proper RGB SCART cable. The model 2 SNES however, does not have native RGB. The easiest way to get a near-RGB output from the SNES without messing with SCART is to get the HD Retrovision component cable which is awesome.

As for the Hi-Def NES mod and scanlines, well I agree no scanlines looks crap. The sprite art of the games were designed with scanlines in mind so having them enabled is essential. However there are settings in the options menu to get the scanlines to look pretty close to proper and line up correctly on an HDTV. Aside from the several different style options it allows, the most important thing to do is set the height scaling to 4x so they at least line up properly:



Of course its still not going to replicate the nostalgic authenticity of real scanlines on a CRT, but its a small sacrifice to enjoy gaming with the sharpness and screen size of an HDTV.
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