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Old Feb 21, 2020, 01:42 PM   #391
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Chinese prisons emerge as the hotspot for coronavirus, 500 cases detected

More than 500 cases of the new coronavirus have been detected in prisons across China, authorities said Friday, prompting the sacking of a slew of officials.

Hubei, the hard-hit central province where the virus emerged late last year, said Friday that 271 cases were reported by its prisons on Thursday, including 220 that had previously not been known to provincial authorities.

Most of those cases were at the Wuhan Women's Prison in Hubei's capital, He Ping, director for prison administration at the Ministry of Justice, told reporters.

The warden of Wuhan women's prison had been removed for failing to prevent the outbreak, according to local Communist Party newspaper Hubei Daily.

Seven guards and 200 inmates also tested positive for the virus at Rencheng prison in eastern Shandong province, the provincial health commission said at a press conference.

Xie Weijun, head of Shandong's justice department, ad seven other officials were sacked over the outbreak, officials said.

Wu Lei, director of Shandong's prison administration, said the new cases showed that "the implementation of our prevention and control measures have not been effective".

The central government has dispatched a team to launch a "comprehensive investigation" into the outbreak at Rencheng Prison, state news agency Xinhua reported.

Another 34 cases were found at Shilifeng prison in eastern Zhejiang province, leading to the ouster of its director and another official.

A policeman had "deliberately concealed" information about a visit to Wuhan -- the epicentre of the outbreak -- in mid-January and continued to work at the prison, said Xu Xiaobo, deputy director of the Zhejiang Provincial Justice Department.

"The policeman... was diagnosed with new coronavirus on January 29. He had worked long hours and has come into contact with many people, causing many prisoners to become infected," Xu said.

"All the cases were imported cases. All patients are observed in isolation, and all confirmed patients are sent for treatment," he added.

Xu said no deaths had occurred in the prisons because of the coronavirus. One suspected case was found at the Hubei Juvenile Detention Center, He said.

Hubei announced earlier on Friday that a total of 411 new cases of the virus were confirmed in the province on Thursday, but later revised its figure up to 631 to include the prison numbers.

The clusters came as Chinese authorities have pointed to a drop in officially reported new cases this week as evidence that quarantines and other drastic measures to contain the virus are working.

Most of China remains paralysed over fears of contagion, with schools remaining closed and Beijing ordering those returning to the city to self-quarantine for 14 days.

New cases at two hospitals in the country's capital have also emerged.

Health officials said 36 patients, medical workers and family members have been infected with the virus at Beijing's Fuxing hospital, which has been partially sealed off since January 31.

An elderly woman receiving kidney treatment at Peking University People's Hospital also tested positive after two infected relatives visited her earlier this month, the hospital said.

The virus spreads through droplets disseminated by sneezing or coughing, highlighting the risks for large groups of confined people, possibly without adequate access to soap and water.

Members of China's Uighur minority living in exile have also warned of the risk of the coronavirus spreading in internment camps, where rights groups say more than one million people have been rounded up by authorities.

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Old Feb 21, 2020, 02:18 PM   #392
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Nah, the water advice actually goes for a lot of countries. Something about regional incompatibility of what your immune system is built up against. I think places that treat their water sufficiently generally don't have the same issue, but everywhere that has at least some lower standard of water access this rule applies to. And the people that live there, well they just develop the tolerance or whatever for it and are fine, just people newly exposed have an issue.
That may be true in many places but in the area in India my bro was in he asked the people he was working with an none of them drank the water fro the tap only from bottles or a few of them had really nice filter systems in their homes.
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Getting bad in South korea as well.

Iran sounds like it's hiding the number of cases they have.
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That may be true in many places but in the area in India my bro was in he asked the people he was working with an none of them drank the water fro the tap only from bottles or a few of them had really nice filter systems in their homes.

Huh, I guess they just don't have adequate water infrastructure there. I know India has had some issues like that, but if I remember right, a recent change in administration has made public sanitation and access to utilities a priority, so hopefully not for too much longer.




Also a bit of an outbreak in Italy now, 50k under voluntary quarantine with 12 confirmed cases and a bunch of pending test results.


Interestingly, and frighteningly, the new case in the US returned from China on the 2nd and only just showed symptoms (longer than the presumed incubation period and current quarantines that I know of).
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Getting bad in South korea as well.

Iran sounds like it's hiding the number of cases they have.
North Korea seems even more worrisome. Officially, they have zero cases -- but seems unlikely (right next door, lots of trade). They would be singularly ill-equipped to deal with an outbreak. Their isolation might be a plus here, but if it got so bad there as to destabilize the government -- well, a destabilized rogue nuclear state sounds worse than COVID-19.
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North Korea seems even more worrisome. Officially, they have zero cases -- but seems unlikely (right next door, lots of trade). They would be singularly ill-equipped to deal with an outbreak. Their isolation might be a plus here, but if it got so bad there as to destabilize the government -- well, a destabilized rogue nuclear state sounds worse than COVID-19.

At least they've sort of self quarantined
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Cases in South Korea almost doubled in one day.

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Iran closing the border with Iraq

Italy's Council of Ministers will meet on coronavirus at 6:30 p.m. local time. Prime Minister Conte says the government is considering "extraordinary measures"
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Iran closing the border with Iraq could have more to do with US/Iran tensions than coronavirus.
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Iran closing the border with Iraq could have more to do with US/Iran tensions than coronavirus.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...211643953.html

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All cinemas and art events across Iran will be closed for one week to try and stop the spread of the coronavirus in the country, semi-official news agency FARS reported.
Iranian officials mull restrictions on holy sites

Iran's Hajj Pilgrimage Organization has reportedly cancelled all trips for pilgrims travelling to Iraq in a bid to prevent the spread of the coronavirus, Al Jazeera's Dorse Jabbari said while reporting from the Iranian capital, Tehran.

She added that Iranian officials have decided to close all of Iran's five land borders with Iraq and are mulling taking action to restrict visits to holy shrines in Qom - where the virus has killed two people - and other nearby places.
Iran closes schools in two cities: State TV

Iran will close schools, universities and educational centres in two central cities to prevent the spread of coronavirus, state TV reported.

It said the shutdown would begin on Sunday in and last two days in Qom - where two people have died from the virus - and a week in Arak.
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With information from China scarce, U.S. spies enlisted to track coronavirus

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“China’s behavior causes the intelligence community to get involved,” said one of those sources, a former intelligence official. “Because no data means spying.”

The former official indicated that the most important issue being tracked is the Chinese leadership plans for what is known as “continuity of operations,” meaning the ability for the government to maintain its basic functions during an unprecedented crisis, such as nuclear war or natural disaster.

In China, this might involve senior leaders leaving the country or seeking safety in shelters, “like U.S. doomsday bunkers,” said the source. The intel community, said the source, is seeing some signs Chinese officials are making those kinds of contingency plans, indicating the potential level of concern within Beijing.
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Thousands of Russian-linked social media accounts have launched a coordinated effort to spread alarm about the coronavirus, disrupting global efforts to combat the epidemic, US officials told AFP news agency.

False personas are being used on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to advance Russian talking points and conspiracies, including suggesting that the CIA is behind the virus that has claimed more than 2,300 lives, mostly in China.

"Russia's intent is to sow discord and undermine US institutions and alliances from within, including through covert and coercive malign influence campaigns," said Philip Reeker, the acting assistant secretary of state for Europe and Eurasia.

"By spreading disinformation about coronavirus, Russian malign actors are once again choosing to threaten public safety by distracting the global health response," he said.


maybe we should dump the sick in Russia
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Russia has a history of doing that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Infektion
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Sounds like russian disinformation.
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Sounds like russian disinformation.
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CODOGNO, Italy (AP) — Italy scrambled Sunday to check the spread of Europe’s first major outbreak of the new viral disease amid rapidly rising numbers of infections and a third death, calling off the popular Venice Carnival, scrapping major league soccer matches in the stricken area and shuttering theaters, including Milan’s legendary La Scala.

Concern was also on the rise in neighboring Austria, which halted all rail traffic to and from Italy for several hours after suspicion that a train at its southern border with Italy had two passengers possibly infected with the virus on board, authorities said. Austria’s interior ministry said it had been informed by Italy’s railway company that two passengers had fever and stopped the train at the Brenner crossing before it could enter Austria.

However, just before midnight Austria’s Federal Railways announced on Twitter the ban had been lifted. Austrian Interior Minister Karl Nehammer said the two people suspected of being infected with the virus on the Eurocity 86 train from Venice to Munich had tested negative and the train would be allowed to continue on its way, according to the ORF broadcast network.

The decision to call off Venice Carnival was announced by Veneto regional Gov. Luca Zaia as the number of confirmed virus cases soared to 152, the largest number outside Asia.
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On Sunday morning, the regional governor of Lombardy, Attilo Fontana, confirmed that 89 people have now tested positive for the virus and a much larger but unspecified number are referred to as suspect cases.

The second hotspot is in the Veneto region, near Venice, which is celebrating Carnevale to somewhat diminished crowds. Twelve people in the region have tested positive even though none of them has ever been to mainland China or, as far as is known at this point, been in contact with any obvious vectors. Eight Chinese residents, two of whom came back from Wuhan through via Germany, are under quarantine—but they have not tested positive. It is yet unclear if that cluster will grow.
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I don't know how reputable news-medical.net is, but...

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...to-market.aspx

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Health officials believe that the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), which causes the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), originated from wild animals sold in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in Wuhan City, which is home to 11 million residents.

Now, a team of scientists from Xishuangbanna Tropical Botanical Garden of Chinese Academy of Sciences, South China Agricultural University, and Chinese Institute for Brain Research wrote in a paper published on ChinaXiv, about an alternative source of the coronavirus that is currently spreading across the globe.

The scientists say they have found genomic evidence that the seafood market is not the actual source of the outbreak. Instead, they point the source of the virus outbreak to a laboratory that studies potent viruses.

The Wuhan Virology Institute researches some of the world's most dangerous pathogens. It is China's first Biosafety Level 4 laboratory, the highest security level needed to isolate dangerous biological agents in an enclosed facility.
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If it came from a Lab I doubt they'd admit it.
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I don't know how reputable news-medical.net is, but...

https://www.news-medical.net/news/20...to-market.aspx
So it IS Captain Trips! I knew it!
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If it came from a Lab I doubt they'd admit it.
Yeah I can't see them owning it - neither would the US for that matter, if it were us lol.
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Know what's weird? I'm fighting off what feels like the flu and i keep getting the strangest urges to act like a zombie
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The death rate of this Wuhan virus is about 2-3%.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51540981


For a frame of reference, the flu's is 12%-13%.


If only we treated the flu with this much care.
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For a frame of reference, the flu's is 12%-13%.


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The death rate of this Wuhan virus is about 2-3%.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51540981


For a frame of reference, the flu's is 12%-13%.



If only we treated the flu with this much care.

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/#S2
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Surprising outbreak in northern Italy since Friday. What is scary, is that they haven't found patient zero yet. So far 216 confirmed cases with 6 deaths. All of which had underlying health conditions.

With this outbreak and now Iran, nature always seems to find a way to break-out.

No cause for alarm yet for us here in the U.S. but I always like taking a stepped approach for disaster. First to be ready and second not to look like a loon to the wife.

First step, I think it's time for a big bulk shop at Costco. Maybe pick up three bags of charcoal for summer bbq now. Re-stock medicines, etc.

Best to get this stuff now, because ***if*** there is a small outbreak in big cities like NY and LA, the panic that will set in, will have the stores empty in hours.

The panic in this case will be much worse than the disease itself.
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Dow down over 1000 on fears about the corona virus spreading outside China.

Outbreaks in Iran, Italy, and South Korea now too. Crazy stuff. I like Allexxis's idea. Time to start stocking up.
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I had found figures from Canada, but realised that it was actually 12% of hospitalisations result in death. Either way, both sets of figures are greater than this current viruses'.
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Dow down over 1000 on fears about the corona virus spreading outside China.

Outbreaks in Iran, Italy, and South Korea now too. Crazy stuff. I like Allexxis's idea. Time to start stocking up.
What kind of things would you stock-up on? Cold med, tissue and hand soap?
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