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Old Jan 5, 2005, 12:08 AM   #1
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Im going to start weightlifting again, and ive lost pretty much all of the weight that i had gained when i used to poump up teh shet before.

Now, im trying to gain it back.

But it took me 3 years (an ectomorph--someone whos naturally lean) to put on like 30 lbs and most of that time i was eating ~ 2 meals a day, plus a 2000 calorie GNC weight gainer shake like 5 days a week.

Ughhh, that stuff still makes me nearly throw up just thinking about it.


Now i know a lot of people are trying to lose weight, but for people like me, what should i be eating and how much of it should i be eating to gain weight

Just FYI, i usually dont like to eat that much, but thats probably because ive just conditioned my body to not be hungry on such a small appetite over the last few years.

But basically, HELP!

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Old Jan 5, 2005, 12:10 AM   #2
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I suggest a high protein diet with plenty of eggs.
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Old Jan 5, 2005, 12:13 AM   #3
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Eat high carbs. Carbs are fuel for the body! Or weight gain products.
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eat crap (ie) foods.
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High protein diets aid in losing weight too. Depends if you are tlaking about muscle or actual weight. I know plenty of people who have lost weight with protein. I recommend Carbohydrates Hamidxa - heaps of bread and potatoes and pasta and stuff. You don't really need to eat bigger meals, just put more carbs into them.
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High protein diets aid in losing weight too. Depends if you are tlaking about muscle or actual weight. I know plenty of people who have lost weight with protein. I recommend Carbohydrates Hamidxa - heaps of bread and potatoes and pasta and stuff. You don't really need to eat bigger meals, just put more carbs into them.


Carbs eh....


Yeah, this might help you guys make even more suggestions.

I dont care if its fatty foods or whatever.
Its VERY VERY easy for me to turn (what little i have) fat into muscle because of my body structure.

So, my understanding now is that carbs help you to put fat on, whereas protein simply helps to produce lean muscle mass


Give me more diet and foods suggestions please, the fattier the better, so long as its not too unhealthy or clogs up my arteries.



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Ok, i got potatoes, bread, pasta, milk, and........amino acids (what kind of foods should i eat/drink to get that).

Heh yeah, when i walked into GNC the other day, i asked them "Now i know you sell products to speeden up a persons metabolism, but do you have any that say slow it down?"
They were confused needless to say
However i was serious.

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Old Jan 5, 2005, 12:18 AM   #7
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Carbs eh....


Yeah, this might help you guys make even more suggestions.

I dont care if its fatty foods or whatever.
Its VERY VERY easy for me to turn (what little i have) fat into muscle because of my body structure.

So, my understanding now is that carbs help you to put fat on, whereas protein simply helps to produce lean muscle mass


Give me more diet and foods suggestions please, the fattier the better, so long as its not too unhealthy or clogs up my arteries.
Well form my experience, protein helps people to lose weight fast - providing they excersize.

Carbs help with fat if you don't excersize - or muscle if you do.
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how about chinese food? pizza? chips? beer? fries? burgers? cmon man. if you jsut get fat the muscles automatically should build up then you just gotta trim.

sry if i sound like a noob, just seems to be the way it works for me.

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Pump those girly-man muscles and chug down the wieght gain shakes

Its all about Protien Protien Protien, lots of meat eggs etc

*note*

If you want muscles that is, and the amino acid supplements aswell (as mentioned above)
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Pump those girly-man muscles and chug down the wieght gain shakes

Its all about Protien Protien Protien, lots of meat eggs etc

No more weight gain shakes.

Well, then again, my only experience was from 2+ years of GNCs weight gainer 2200 Gold.......ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, nasty nasty nasty.

Too thick, tasted like what i presume chalk would taste like, and it would take me nearly 30 mins to guzzle down an entire blender full of that crap.

Theres got to be more alternatives in the way of real foods?

Whats this "whey" that i keep hearing about.


Oh, and as far as eggs are concerned, im all for it , but should i be concerned about the cholesterol levels associated with eggs?

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No more weight gain shakes.

Well, then again, my only experience was from 2+ years of GNCs weight gainer 2200 Gold.......ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, nasty nasty nasty.

Too thick, tasted like what i presume chalk would taste like, and it would take me nearly 30 mins to guzzle down an entire blender full of that crap.

Theres got to be more alternatives in the way of real foods?

Whats this "whey" that i keep hearing about.


Oh, and as far as eggs are concerned, im all for it , but should i be concerned about the cholesterol levels associated with eggs?
Not all weight gain/protien powders taste bad, especially if you blend them in with a smothie (like a protien rich banana smothie ) Weight Gain 900 (9000?) is pretty decent.
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eat lots in calories, low in fat ; simple as that


cereals are good, and they taste good ; something along the lines of cheerios
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eat lots in calories, low in fat ; simple as that


cereals are good, and they taste good ; something along the lines of cheerios

Why low in fat

My whole goal is to put on fat. Weight and fat are synonymous to me since i dont care if im eating fatty foods because i can easily convert them to muscle afterwards.


Basically, with the help of you guys of course, i want to make a list of weight-gaining foods to eat.

So far i got:

Bread
Potatoes
Milk
Eggs
Meats
Pasta
Cereal (such as cheerios).
Amino acids (not sure what foods contain those)


What else?
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Why low in fat

My whole goal is to put on fat. Weight and fat are synonymous to me since i dont care if im eating fatty foods because i can easily convert them to muscle afterwards.


Basically, with the help of you guys of course, i want to make a list of weight-gaining foods to eat.

So far i got:

Bread
Potatoes
Milk
Eggs
Meats
Pasta
Cereal (such as cheerios).
Amino acids (not sure what foods contain those)


What else?
Rice
Fruits with natural fat (avocados)
The occasional serving of Take-out
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Rice
Fruits with natural fat (avocados)
The occasional serving of Take-out

Rice?

Really

Our national food is rice basically. And ive never seen an overweight persian.

Also (not a racial thing), a lot of Oriental people, especially Chinese and Japanese live off of rice. But ive never met a "fat" Chinese/Japanese person.

Rice has the potential to make you fat?
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I have the same problem as you ( ectomorph body high metabolisim )

Is there anyway to change your metabolisim / body type? I heard arnild swarznegger used to be an ectomoprh.

As far as I know you want high calorie high carb food, and protein for the mussles.

Thing is I bet you can eat as much as you want to just like me and not put on a bit of weight. I might try those shakes... beats eating 2000 calories or more worth of food anyway
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I have the same problem as you ( ectomorph body high metabolisim )

Is there anyway to change your metabolisim / body type? I heard arnild swarznegger used to be an ectomoprh.

As far as I know you want high calorie high carb food, and protein for the mussles.

Thing is I bet you can eat as much as you want to just like me and not put on a bit of weight. I might try those shakes... beats eating 2000 calories or more worth of food anyway
Arnold was rich in steroid abuse for years just cuase he says he didnt dont go believing it. In his Pumping Iron video in th eoriginal unedited version you can see him smoking a doober at the very end of the film.

Protien shakes arent a good way to get protiens their good for a fast ingestion after workout when your muscles need it the most but thats about the best reason for it.
Those shakes you dont want more than about 6 scoops a day or rather 6 half scoops in those big scoopers.

Snagged another guys diet i start off with oatmeal and yogurt at breakfast right now im tard of over 6 months of tuna i cant grill anymore so i dont cook my meats much sucks.

Meal 1 about 11am -
7 eggs(4 whole)
3 shedded Wheat Biscuts
2 Whole wheat toast w/ Peanut butter
1 Orange

Meal 2 (2H later)
Shake w/ 40g Dextrose
meal 3- 30min later
6-10oz Tuna
14 oz Sweet Pot.
Meal 4
8-10oz Chicken
16oz Brown Rice
Meal 5
8oz Chicken
12oz Brown Rice
100g Yoguart
Meal 6
12oz Chicken
80z Brown Rice

That is "typical day"

Totals: 288g protien 334g carbs 53g fat Totals cals: 3868
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I have the same problem as you ( ectomorph body high metabolisim )

Is there anyway to change your metabolisim / body type? I heard arnild swarznegger used to be an ectomoprh.

As far as I know you want high calorie high carb food, and protein for the mussles.

Thing is I bet you can eat as much as you want to just like me and not put on a bit of weight. I might try those shakes... beats eating 2000 calories or more worth of food anyway
Same problem here

This thread is going more and more interesting
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I have the same problem as you ( ectomorph body high metabolisim )

Is there anyway to change your metabolisim / body type? I heard arnild swarznegger used to be an ectomoprh.

As far as I know you want high calorie high carb food, and protein for the mussles.

Thing is I bet you can eat as much as you want to just like me and not put on a bit of weight. I might try those shakes... beats eating 2000 calories or more worth of food anyway

Yeah i heard the same thing, and yep you pretty much hit the nail on the head.
That and also the fact that i dont have much of an appetite unless i force myself to eat, but then again...maybe if i just ate more like some "overweight" people do, then perhaps that might help , but i still know i wouldnt get as large, being an ectomorph.


Oh, and those 2000 calorie drinks are DISGUSTING MAN.
NO ONE i have ever met has actually enjoyed drinking one.
Youll feel like throwing up after drinking a pitcher full of that stuff every time.
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I suggest a high protein diet with plenty of eggs.
Tuna, plenty of tuna Though you must eat it within 45 mins of a workout for best results.

Last time I was building myself, eating plenty of tuna/pasta/jacket potatoes after a workout really made a big difference.







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when i wrestled i was a scrawny 145 pounder, and by the 2nd year i was in 171 weightclass lol :P i have a high metabolism so i can eat my stomach off and not gain anything and i have like 0 bodyfat. But what worked for me was a high protein diet. I used to drink these Myoplex mass protein shakes... and i took creatine for a while. I didnt eat any fatty foods, i ate healthy. I REALLY dont think you need carbs or fatty foods or ANYTHING like that just lotta protein... maybe a few calories here and there :P But dont just try and get FAT what you want to do is gain mass!

edit: Muscle mass! omg i just read this thread, eveyones trying to kill you :P dont eat anything. you can starve yourself and still gain 20 pounds of bare muscle in a year. Some of the protein shakes arent that bad either btw. The bars are Shat!
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BEEEFCAAAAAKE!!!!!!!!

Seriously, just get some regular cardovacular exercise and feel greatfull that you dont have to work at it to get a good figure. Once you start poumpin teh shat, it takes lots effort to keep going that way.
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To monster sets (time constrained recovery sets)
where you to a set of 8-12 to exhaustion and then wait 10-20 seconds
and do another 2-3 reps. This will be part of your set.

2- To gain weight, you need to slow you metabolism down.
There is no real way to do this so you need to concentrate
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4-5 sets of 6-8 reps once you are close to where you were.

Drink milk and lots of amino acids.

Do not cross train or (Super set). Remember, you want to keep your metabolism
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I'm in the middle of an 8 week cycle and have gained 6 Kilos by increasing my dietery protein and carbs, supplemented with 50 grams of whey and 5 grams of creatine daily.

Oh and lots of gym (yes gym, noob), but then I do work in a sports centre so gym is free for me
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Im going to start weightlifting again, and ive lost pretty much all of the weight that i had gained when i used to poump up teh shet before.

Now, im trying to gain it back.

But it took me 3 years (an ectomorph--someone whos naturally lean) to put on like 30 lbs and most of that time i was eating ~ 2 meals a day, plus a 2000 calorie GNC weight gainer shake like 5 days a week.

Ughhh, that stuff still makes me nearly throw up just thinking about it.


Now i know a lot of people are trying to lose weight, but for people like me, what should i be eating and how much of it should i be eating to gain weight

Just FYI, i usually dont like to eat that much, but thats probably because ive just conditioned my body to not be hungry on such a small appetite over the last few years.

But basically, HELP!
Sounds like you and I have the same body structure. High metabolism, muscle is easily and quickly built, eat only about two meals a day, and burn it all off before you can count to 10, lol.
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Sounds like you and I have the same body structure. High metabolism, muscle is easily and quickly built, eat only about two meals a day, and burn it all off before you can count to 10, lol.

I know, i hate it

I also have to roll my eyes when people mention low-in-fat foods, because thats what i really want. LOTS OF FAT, since like you mentioned we can easily convert it to muscle, but have a hell of a time keeping the weight on.


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Wait till your 21, you'll fatten without any help of yours
I wish that were the case, i just recently turned 26, and that metabolism isnt slowing down yet.


But ill take everyone suggestions into consideration here.
I just wish i could eat more (like Beak--thats INSANE what you eat in like 2 days is the same as what i eat in a week).

Well, ill get started on my new diet tomorrow hopefully.
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I know, i hate it

I also have to roll my eyes when people mention low-in-fat foods, because thats what i really want. LOTS OF FAT, since like you mentioned we can easily convert it to muscle, but have a hell of a time keeping the weight on.


Oh, and



I wish that were the case, i just recently turned 26, and that metabolism isnt slowing down yet.


But ill take everyone suggestions into consideration here.
I just wish i could eat more (like Beak--thats INSANE what you eat in like 2 days is the same as what i eat in a week).

Well, ill get started on my new diet tomorrow hopefully.

Do you realize there are people who would kill to have bodies like ours? (fast metabolism) LOL!
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Being an ectomorph and gaining mussle is like an uphill struggle. It's like your fighting against the natural way of things. Forcing yourself to eat when you don't need to eat etc not to mention being hard on the wallet.

Try and eat food that is very dense in carbs, not junk. So instead of eating french frys or crisps eat baked potatos

McDonalds seems to be good at making people fat. This means it must be high calorie food which is usefull. Thing is it has lots of grease and other stuff you don't want which are generally unhealthy and end up causing longterm health problems.

Basically you gotta think big, eat big and exercise big. And keep it up to get results.
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