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Old Apr 18, 2017, 01:32 PM   #1
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I got a 7+ but may spring for the upgrade depending on what its looking like. Slightly annoyed they skipped the tick-tock cycle for the 10th anniversary. I usually get every new iteration 5,6,7 skipping the S versions.
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I got a 7+ but may spring for the upgrade depending on what its looking like. Slightly annoyed they skipped the tick-tock cycle for the 10th anniversary. I usually get every new iteration 5,6,7 skipping the S versions.
iPhone 8 is just the name this news outlet chose. Honestly, it happens every generation this far out before the launch when the name has not been confirmed. Before the 6S was announced all the news outlets were calilng it the 7. They just don't understand Apple's product naming convention or want to make their news pieces sound more impressive. Granted, I would not expect a redesign as drastic as this to carry the "S" moniker either... So either the rumors are simply made up or they may very well skip the S this time after all. Guess we'll have to wait until September to know for sure, as usual.
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I am curious how much of this pans out.

My understanding was Apple was buying OLED's from Samsung, but they were plastic.

If they come out with 3 versions, and if the fancy one is plastic on the front, it may be an issue. Will have to wait and see.

Really hoping for at least wireless charging and possibly some USB-C setup, either native or via adapter. Preferably native (a USB-C to lightning adapter to solve charging issues would be swell).
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Can't imagine Apple using a plastic screen after years of glass.
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Can't imagine Apple using a plastic screen after years of glass.
It's been one of the most persistent early rumors:

https://9to5mac.com/2016/12/18/repor...-oled-display/

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It’s not clear whether the plastic OLED panel is what users of the phone would feel or if the plastic part is then covered with a glass layer on the iPhone 8. Apple has relied on Corning ‘Gorilla Glass’ in all iPhones to date with glass displays typically considered as more premium than plastic materials.
Almost all the current info is a rehashing of the previous reports, except now there are alleged schematics involved.

It'll be interesting.

And personally, I am much more in favor of an iris scanner or similar than I am a finger print scanner on the back.
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iPhone 8 is just the name this news outlet chose. Honestly, it happens every generation this far out before the launch when the name has not been confirmed. Before the 6S was announced all the news outlets were calilng it the 7. They just don't understand Apple's product naming convention or want to make their news pieces sound more impressive. Granted, I would not expect a redesign as drastic as this to carry the "S" moniker either... So either the rumors are simply made up or they may very well skip the S this time after all. Guess we'll have to wait until September to know for sure, as usual.
Name is not what makes it the 8. Its the new design. Rumors are saying they are coming out with a 7s and an 8. If Apple followed their own trend there will be only a 7s(no redesign) and I wont upgrade. But since they are breaking it and releasing an entirely new phone I have to break my 2 year upgrade cycle and get it.

Also, no way they are going with plastic... it feels so cheap. If its plastic I am not getting it lol.
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Name is not what makes it the 8. Its the new design. Rumors are saying they are coming out with a 7s and an 8. If Apple followed their own trend there will be only a 7s(no redesign) and I wont upgrade. But since they are breaking it and releasing an entirely new phone I have to break my 2 year upgrade cycle and get it.
I think that would be a huge mistake to refresh the 7 and release an 8 at the exact same time. I think there may very well be a high-end variant of whatever they decide to name the next iPhone, I doubt they'll name that 8 and the other models 7s though.

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Also, no way they are going with plastic... it feels so cheap. If its plastic I am not getting it lol.
It's just the screen that's rumored to be plastic. The body would still be metal.
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I think that would be a huge mistake to refresh the 7 and release an 8 at the exact same time. I think there may very well be a high-end variant of whatever they decide to name the next iPhone, I doubt they'll name that 8 and the other models 7s though.



It's just the screen that's rumored to be plastic. The body would still be metal.
I dont want plastic anything. Plastic feels like **** and scratches easily as hell. There should be no noticeable plastic on a device of of the cost of what apple will charge for it.
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I dont want plastic anything. Plastic feels like **** and scratches easily as hell. There should be no noticeable plastic on a device of of the cost of what apple will charge for it.
Aren't all the AMOLED screen phones plastic? i.e. the entire lineups of both Samsung and LG?
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Aren't all the AMOLED screen phones plastic? i.e. the entire lineups of both Samsung and LG?
Maybe under the glass.
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Maybe under the glass.
If that's the case I wonder how they bond their screens then. I would think that would be difficult to do with two dissimilar materials like glass and plastic, but I'm not a chemist nor an engineer so I could be wrong.
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If that's the case I wonder how they bond their screens then. I would think that would be difficult to do with two dissimilar materials like glass and plastic, but I'm not a chemist nor an engineer so I could be wrong.
I think part of it was a potentially newer version of what Samsung is developing and then adapting it to a curved surface.

Heck, the original iphone was supposed to be plastic capacitive. Having glass completely changed things.

The plastic will be covered. The challenge may be thickness.
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I think part of it was a potentially newer version of what Samsung is developing and then adapting it to a curved surface.

Heck, the original iphone was supposed to be plastic capacitive. Having glass completely changed things.

The plastic will be covered. The challenge may be thickness.
I would think the flexibility of plastic would make it better for 3d touch also. I could definitely see Apple going this route and covering the screen with a thin layer of glass (if possible) to maintain the premium feel but gain all the other benefits of plastic OLED.
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I would think the flexibility of plastic would make it better for 3d touch also. I could definitely see Apple going this route and covering the screen with a thin layer of glass (if possible) to maintain the premium feel but gain all the other benefits of plastic OLED.
A lot of the "flexibility" is just recognizing the touch and then activating the motor isn't it? Flexibility, while important to prevent breakage, may not be that big a deal if it feels "flexible".

The haptic engine development of Apple is WAY better than anyone else out the there in phone or watch market.

Either way, I am excited to see what happens My 6s+ is still working well.
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A lot of the "flexibility" is just recognizing the touch and then activating the motor isn't it? Flexibility, while important to prevent breakage, may not be that big a deal if it feels "flexible".

The haptic engine development of Apple is WAY better than anyone else out the there in phone or watch market.

Either way, I am excited to see what happens My 6s+ is still working well.
Apple detailed how 3d touch works in a keynote when it was intro'd. There is actual flex of glass which is measured by the change in current, I believe. I would think the higher flexibility of plastic may allow for more variation in pressure, which could open up new usage possibilties. Don't ask me what those may be, I'm the farthest thing from a UI designer.
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Since nothing has materially changed (except dropping the headphone jack which means I'll need an adapter), I've stuck with my iPhone 6. If the 8 is noticeably better and different, I'll just keep waiting.
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So I should not buy an iPhone 7 today?
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I don't see anything on the market compelling enough to make me drop the needed coin at the moment. My 6+ still works just fine and the mortgage is paid.
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How many people use their phone for more than IM, phone calls, video and the internet? Did the GPS stop working on the Iphone 6?

Apple will remove anyone's ability to use an older iphone in due time, so lets see what the new one brings. Microsoft is doing a good job of this already with it's latest update. At least they price their phones as the disposable goods they are.
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Apple will remove anyone's ability to use an older iphone in due time, so lets see what the new one brings.
What are you talking about? Apple has the best track record when it comes to bringing new firmware to the oldest phones in their line. Theyre still supporting the iPhone 5 which came out in 2012. Show me any other company updating a 5 year old phone.
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What are you talking about? Apple has the best track record when it comes to bringing new firmware to the oldest phones in their line. Theyre still supporting the iPhone 5 which came out in 2012. Show me any other company updating a 5 year old phone.
I'm taking about cellphones as disposable goods. How many really keep their phones for five years. You can install the firmware but how well will it work? Apple would like it if there were no refurbished old iphones being resold and has the greatest marketing/hype machine in history convincing people to drop their two year old device into the trash can for feature's they'll never use.

Samsung, google, LG, Microsoft do this too. Just because apple provides barebones support for older devices doesn't mean they hate planned obsolescence.
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I wouldnt call new firmware barebones. Barebones would be just letting people be able to use their old phones. If Apples support of older phones is barebones than every other companies support must be non-existent.
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I wouldnt call new firmware barebones. Barebones would be just letting people be able to use their old phones. If Apples support of older phones is barebones than every other companies support must be non-existent.
Cut features on old phones, basic security updates... barebones.

Apple is one of the many that are ****. The company disgusts me overall, hoarding 250 billion..... So yes, **** apple and their products.

I know your next response: But you have a smartphone from another evil corp, Microsoft. Yes I do. I choose a phone that I could afford and one that had removable battery and storage to extend its life beyond what amounts to the suicide battery locked in most smartphones.

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What features are cut? You seem to have a natural hate for Apple. Also, what of the free recycle program? lol
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There are certain features that have been cut, and it's mainly due to the older phones not having enough horsepower to properly execute those features alongside all the other new stuff that comes with every iteration of iOS. This is not abnormal, and it's giving a lifeline to people who have older phones, they still get updates and new features without updating their phone. No smart phone maker is going to support their phones into perpetuity, but I think Apple goes above and beyond to keep older devices around.
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What features are cut? You seem to have a natural hate for Apple. Also, what of the free recycle program? lol
Yes. I'm honest about it. If you expect me to change your mind, I won't. If you expect me to stoop and say apple is as bad as the rest, I won't.

250 billion dollars. Dodges taxes and its responsibility to the country that birthed them. **** silicon valley too.

What free recycle program?
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Features cut? Or features not added with the firmware cause said phone could not handle the hardware requirements? Those are completely different things.

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250 billion dollars. Dodges taxes and its responsibility to the country that birthed them. **** silicon valley too.

What free recycle program?
They do what every company does. They just happen to do it on a larger scale cause they have more cash. You might as well hate every company in existence.
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Features cut? Or features not added with the firmware cause said phone could not handle the hardware requirements? Those are completely different things.



They do what every company does. They just happen to do it on a larger scale cause they have more cash. You might as well hate every company in existence.
Many days I do. Gotta drop this conversation before it gets too political though.

My sister will buy one of these no doubt lol.
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