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Old May 15, 2014, 09:29 PM   #91
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As for Dell, from what I remember in analysis class, they didn't really fail in pursuing different market segments. Their downfall had more to do with a shift in technology use and being unable to develop products that catered to that shift (smartphone/tablets).
^This.

Fact is, they still make the best notebooks and desktop PCs in the market. Problem is, as Zero mentioned, smartphones and tablets are eating away the PC market share cause of it's extreme portability and ease of use.

What's more, there is no incentive for many to buy new comps when their 3-4 yo comps run everything they need without a hitch. People nowadays pick their gadgets based on looks over functionality... which don't actually bode well for the PC market (which are seen as antiquated tools people use for work by the general population).
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Old May 16, 2014, 01:33 AM   #92
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You said "recall."
If Apple releases the iPhone 6 with broken GPS, Bluetooth, or camera, it will be national news and hurt the brand. Apple would have no choice but to recall the affected phones.
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iPhone 4 - no cellular connectivity to anywhere if you held the phone directly in your hand in the most common way most people hold their phone
they never recalled it, they just blamed everyone for holding it wrong.
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Old May 16, 2014, 01:36 AM   #94
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If Apple releases the iPhone 6 with broken GPS, Bluetooth, or camera, it will be national news and hurt the brand. Apple would have no choice but to recall the affected phones.
No they'll tell you the GPS satellites are not apple compatible, you're connecting the bluetooth wrong and the camera is working as intended, you just need to get your eyes fixed.
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^This.

Fact is, they still make the best notebooks and desktop PCs in the market. Problem is, as Zero mentioned, smartphones and tablets are eating away the PC market share cause of it's extreme portability and ease of use.

What's more, there is no incentive for many to buy new comps when their 3-4 yo comps run everything they need without a hitch. People nowadays pick their gadgets based on looks over functionality... which don't actually bode well for the PC market (which are seen as antiquated tools people use for work by the general population).
Perception > reality.

Point proven.
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If Apple releases the iPhone 6 with broken GPS, Bluetooth, or camera, it will be national news and hurt the brand. Apple would have no choice but to recall the affected phones.
You said recalled.

And then gave examples of stuff that was never recalled.

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So is this gonna be good, or what? Geez arguing going on...
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Old May 16, 2014, 07:06 AM   #98
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So is this gonna be good, or what? Geez arguing going on...
No answer for derpy question. It's all speculation at this point.
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You said recalled.

And then gave examples of stuff that was never recalled.

Expound?
Android makers don't care about their reputation like Apple does. Apple only sells premium smartphones. Samsung sells everything from $600 all the way down to $50.
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Old May 16, 2014, 12:08 PM   #100
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Android makers don't care about their reputation like Apple does. Apple only sells premium smartphones. Samsung sells everything from $600 all the way down to $50.
Did they put drugs in your kool-aid?
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Did they put drugs in your kool-aid?
No, but Apple rushing phone development like the Android manufacturers do to release the latest and greatest every 6 months would go over about as well as the Cadillac Cimarron.
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No, but Apple rushing phone development like the Android manufacturers do to release the latest and greatest every 6 months would go over about as well as the Cadillac Cimarron.
I'm not saying that Apple should do what any other phone manufacturer does, because clearly what Apple does works for them.

To say that Android manufacturers "do not care about their reputation" because they frequently release new, upgraded phones, or cannot be considered premium phone makers because they release a variety of products to serve as many customers as they can, seems asinine to me.

Apple's iPhone 5S is no more premium than the Galaxy S5. Both are flagship, excellent phones.
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Apple has high end: 5s

They also have affordable: 5c

I wonder if they will do the same with the iPhone 6 somehow...??? Maybe release the 5s but with a color body and call it the 5sc?
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Apple has high end: 5s

They also have affordable: 5c
Where did I say that Apple did not have an affordable sector?
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Apple has high end: 5s

They also have affordable: 5c

I wonder if they will do the same with the iPhone 6 somehow...??? Maybe release the 5s but with a color body and call it the 5sc?
why not they are all the same anyway

other than screen size and faster processor what been new in years with iPhone & ipad
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Anyone who bought a 5c is an idiot. A cheaper version of the iphone 5 priced the same as an i5.
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Apple has high end: 5s

They also have affordable: 5c
Consumers don't seem to think so. In fact, the 4S sold more than the 5c last quarter, because THAT is an affordable phone.
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affordable and appfordable are not the same things.....


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Yah, why would corporations who do business all over the world ever care about stupid things like reputation?

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Yah, why would corporations who do business all over the world ever care about stupid things like reputation?

Is this an argument for apple ? Or against ?

Also, is this the bash Apple thread or the iphone 6 speculation thread... God Android users are tireless in their fanboyism...
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Sazar is the worst Android fanboy I've ever seen.
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Is this an argument for apple ? Or against ?
Use your common sense

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Also, is this the bash Apple thread or the iphone 6 speculation thread... God Android users are tireless in their fanboyism...
Apparently responding to misinformation is a bad thing.

Fair enough, I am sure you'll have plenty to say about the all the tireless fanboyism emanating from other folks in this thread as well. Right?

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Pretty sure Elysian was saying that, if you were a fanboy, you're pretty bad at it.

AKA, you're not a fanboy.
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Pretty sure Elysian was saying that, if you were a fanboy, you're pretty bad at it.

AKA, you're not a fanboy.
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Pretty sure Elysian was saying that, if you were a fanboy, you're pretty bad at it.

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Consumers don't seem to think so. In fact, the 4S sold more than the 5c last quarter, because THAT is an affordable phone.
No, it was because that was a FREE phone. 5c has done better than fine, and even if it is just a 5 with a plastic case it can be had at $25-$50 usually and is better than most offerings at that price point. The sub-$99 is usually filled with pure junk.
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I wonder if they will do the same with the iPhone 6 somehow...??? Maybe release the 5s but with a color body and call it the 5sc?
The 5C isn't exactly affordable in the smartphone space. If I was looking for value for the buck, I'd pick a Moto G, Moto X, or even Nexus 5 (which can now be had below MSRP) over anything else. Heck, even the Xiaomi 3 and OnePlus One if the quality is up to par.
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What I wanna know is if they will make the small gb size model to start at 32gb... that would be great, if unlikely.

ps... for those doubting the Apple screen resolution......

http://time.com/99639/iphone-6-resolution/ Nice...
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What I wanna know is if they will make the small gb size model to start at 32gb... that would be great, if unlikely.

ps... for those doubting the Apple screen resolution......

http://time.com/99639/iphone-6-resolution/ Nice...
Not 1080p but much better than expected if true.
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