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Old Mar 7, 2012, 11:13 PM   #121
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If Steve Jobs were still alive he would never had let the iPad 3 be thicker and heavier than the iPad 2. He would have chained those engineers to their desks until they got the damb thing right.

This is the beginning of the end as boat with a broken rudder that is Apple gets slowly dragged by the current of time into the rocks of obliteration.

Personally I never liked iOS, but I am dead serious about what I said. Apple is a company built on values and if they don't follow those values, however insane they may seem at times, they are nothing.
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Old Mar 7, 2012, 11:18 PM   #122
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If Steve Jobs were still alive he would never had let the iPad 3 be thicker and heavier than the iPad 2. He would have chained those engineers to their desks until they got the damb thing right.

This is the beginning of the end as boat with a broken rudder that is Apple gets slowly dragged by the current of time into the rocks of obliteration.

Personally I never liked iOS, but I am dead serious about what I said.
A lot of folk seem to forget that Apple offered up a lot of failed products. They got the iPod, iPhone and iPads right. But for every iPhone there's a ROKR, for every iPad there's a Pippin and for every Apple TV there's a Macintosh TV... or a Lisa... or a Newton...
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 12:00 AM   #123
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I love the idea of a quad core chip in it too... Too bad it isn't quad core, it's dual with a quad core gpu. Tegra 3 is quad with a 12 core gpu.
The ipad 2 soc is better than tegra 3
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 12:03 AM   #124
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The ipad 2 soc is better than tegra 3
Yeah not really.
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 12:27 AM   #125
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Yeah not really.
Yes, yes it is http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/a...gra-3-review/3
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Benchmarks that always favor Apple favor Apple, you don't say
What? So you have anything else that proves that tegra 3 is better?
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Apple seems to have lost a bit of their edge that they could have kept here with, a true quad-core CPU, Siri, and perhaps a slimmer form factor. I'm sure it'll be a fine product however... but I feel much the same about this as I did about the 4GS. Though this is a bit stronger product IMHO. I suppose the worst thing here is the level of unwarranted hype though...
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Apple seems to have lost a bit of their edge that they could have kept here with, a true quad-core CPU, Siri, and perhaps a slimmer form factor. I'm sure it'll be a fine product however... but I feel much the same about this as I did about the 4GS. Though this is a bit stronger product IMHO. I suppose the worst thing here is the level of unwarranted hype though...
ipad 3 (yes I am going to call it 3 ) is exactly what I wanted and why I didnt buy ipad 1 and 2.

So in my eyes its a very strong new product and for many other who have been waiting.

I dont think people remember what a BIG difference double the res makes for the screen. It will look really good. When I look at a 3gs screen I just think "WTF IS THIS ****!"
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 04:02 AM   #130
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I preordered a 16GB wifi w/black leather case. Gonna give my first gen to my wife to use as an eReader. Took a lot of effort through all the timeouts on the apple store to get it.
Changed my order the the 32 GB model as I noticed my 16 GB iPad is almost full and assuming apps for the retina display will be larger.
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 04:32 AM   #131
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I don't understand the disappointment of some people on this forum and generally on the internet.
I am not an Apple fanboi, so maybe having the ability think with my own head instead of that of Apple's PR helps in this regard, but still:

- You get a resolution higher than most of the 24' LCD monitors you're staring at right now.
- You get "apple quality" display
- You get LTE
- You get more processing power to handle the resolution (I have no reason do think they're lying in this regard)
- You get the camera from the Iphone 4s, which is a quality piece of kit.
- All these features are packaged in a quality "frame"
- You get tweaks, fixes, updated software, and a crippled version of Siri.


How is this a disappointment, especially considering a lot people have jumped on the Ipad 2 like it was the second coming of Christ almighty, even though they had an Ipad 1.
It seems to me the Ipad 3 is a good upgrade, and a good tablet overall.

What's the problem, it bothers you it doesn't have a name and it uses the same design so you can't boast with your "new" apple gizmo ?

Honestly, you put up with the App Store booting you out after each transaction, the lack of proper widgets, the closed ecosystem, lack of expandable storage and everything else Apple does worse than the competition, but when it comes to some pretty impressive things in terms of features, hardware, screen, etc, "you're disappointed"
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 04:47 AM   #132
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smart move by apple. so one year later they can release New ipad S or ipad 3 with quad core cpu upgrade.

so i think i wil wait another year or half for the real ipad 3.
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 05:22 AM   #133
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smart move by apple. so one year later they can release New ipad S or ipad 3 with quad core cpu upgrade.

so i think i wil wait another year or half for the real ipad 3.
how is this not a "real" ipad 3
Because they didnt change the design?

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Changed my order the the 32 GB model as I noticed my 16 GB iPad is almost full and assuming apps for the retina display will be larger.
Yeah Ill be getting the 32Gb also. You wont come far with 16GB
I have a 32GB iphone 4s now and its enough for lots of pics some videos and lots of big games. Have 7GB left
The 16GB iphone 4 I had previously was full all the time
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If Steve Jobs were still alive he would never had let the iPad 3 be thicker and heavier than the iPad 2. He would have chained those engineers to their desks until they got the damb thing right.

This is the beginning of the end as boat with a broken rudder that is Apple gets slowly dragged by the current of time into the rocks of obliteration.

Personally I never liked iOS, but I am dead serious about what I said. Apple is a company built on values and if they don't follow those values, however insane they may seem at times, they are nothing.
Actually this happened before with the iPhone 3G. It was 0.5 mm thicker than the original iPhone, and Apple had to make its edges thinner to the consumer to have impression it was thinner. But in reality it was thicker.
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how is this not a "real" ipad 3
Because they didnt change the design?

I dont understand this?

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rofl, ipad 3 or not.

i was only referring to the next generation of ipad.

if this one is called ipad3. then it will be the "REAL" ipad 4 on my last comment.

Because APple didn't use IPad 3 as the name of the device. probably the next Gen ipad device will be called ipad 3?? don't you think
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I don't understand the disappointment of some people on this forum and generally on the internet.
I am not an Apple fanboi, so maybe having the ability think with my own head instead of that of Apple's PR helps in this regard, but still:

- You get a resolution higher than most of the 24' LCD monitors you're staring at right now.
- You get "apple quality" display
- You get LTE
- You get more processing power to handle the resolution (I have no reason do think they're lying in this regard)
- You get the camera from the Iphone 4s, which is a quality piece of kit.
- All these features are packaged in a quality "frame"
- You get tweaks, fixes, updated software, and a crippled version of Siri.


How is this a disappointment, especially considering a lot people have jumped on the Ipad 2 like it was the second coming of Christ almighty, even though they had an Ipad 1.
It seems to me the Ipad 3 is a good upgrade, and a good tablet overall.

What's the problem, it bothers you it doesn't have a name and it uses the same design so you can't boast with your "new" apple gizmo ?

Honestly, you put up with the App Store booting you out after each transaction, the lack of proper widgets, the closed ecosystem, lack of expandable storage and everything else Apple does worse than the competition, but when it comes to some pretty impressive things in terms of features, hardware, screen, etc, "you're disappointed"
Only the US gets 4G
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Only the US gets 4G
That isnt confirmed yet. All the swedish telecom companies have asked apple about it but havent got an answer yet. Swedish newspaper have contacted apple representatives and they say they dont know.

They could have made an ipad for EU
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I don't understand the disappointment of some people on this forum and generally on the internet.
I am not an Apple fanboi, so maybe having the ability think with my own head instead of that of Apple's PR helps in this regard, but still:

- You get a resolution higher than most of the 24' LCD monitors you're staring at right now.
- You get "apple quality" display
- You get LTE
- You get more processing power to handle the resolution (I have no reason do think they're lying in this regard)
- You get the camera from the Iphone 4s, which is a quality piece of kit.
- All these features are packaged in a quality "frame"
- You get tweaks, fixes, updated software, and a crippled version of Siri.

How is this a disappointment, especially considering a lot people have jumped on the Ipad 2 like it was the second coming of Christ almighty, even though they had an Ipad 1.
It seems to me the Ipad 3 is a good upgrade, and a good tablet overall.

What's the problem, it bothers you it doesn't have a name and it uses the same design so you can't boast with your "new" apple gizmo ?

Honestly, you put up with the App Store booting you out after each transaction, the lack of proper widgets, the closed ecosystem, lack of expandable storage and everything else Apple does worse than the competition, but when it comes to some pretty impressive things in terms of features, hardware, screen, etc, "you're disappointed"
As a very pleased Transformer Prime owner I have to admit the hardware looks impressive on the Ipad3. However that being said - I'm in the same boat as you - it's the OS that is the rub for me and Apple's strong arm tactics of what you can and can't do with their devices. What immediately drew me to Android devices is the freedom to install and do whatever you want with the device.

Ultimately Android tablets will attract the more technical folks who like to be "hand's on" with the hardware and OS. As a PC builder it's the same reason why I would never buy a complete factory "assembled" PC because I enjoy the challenge that goes with various components and choices of operating systems.

I would never buy my parents an Android tablet and my Mom seems to very happy with her Ipad2 that clearly steers the user on what can be done. Apple does a good job at that.
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As a very pleased Transformer Prime owner I have to admit the hardware looks impressive on the Ipad3. However that being said - I'm in the same boat as you - it's the OS that is the rub for me and Apple's strong arm tactics of what you can and can't do with their devices. What immediately drew me to Android devices is the freedom to install and do whatever you want with the device.

Ultimately Android tablets will attract the more technical folks who like to be "hand's on" with the hardware and OS. As a PC builder it's the same reason why I would never buy a complete factory "assembled" PC because I enjoy the challenge that goes with various components and choices of operating systems.

I would never buy my parents an Android tablet and my Mom seems to very happy with her Ipad2 that clearly steers the user on what can be done. Apple does a good job at that.
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I wonder how much Apple pays those actors and photographers to do all those colorful photos for their products. Colorful clothing, colorful backgrounds. Gotta love their marketing.
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That isnt confirmed yet. All the swedish telecom companies have asked apple about it but havent got an answer yet. Swedish newspaper have contacted apple representatives and they say they dont know.

They could have made an ipad for EU
It is almost confirmed. Here in Denmark apple are getting slamed.
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 02:24 PM   #146
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I thought it wasn't worth upgrading to?
The retina display is going to own. When I think about it, iPad 2's rez is probably the only thing I don't like about it (especially in Kindle mode). It gets the job done sure, but Retina is going to be crazy good.

Plus, I'm not sure what possessed me to get the iPad 2 in white. I prefer the black look, especially when reading or photos.

Also, I'm thinking about future costs. So let's say I keep my iPad 2 until iPad 2013 comes out. I won't even be able to sell my iPad 2 for much more than $100-200, if I'm lucky. I'm better off staying current. I'm taking a larger loss this time because I waited too long, but I know that come next year's rumor mill, I need to be quick on the draw. I can't play it like I play the iPhone (mostly because I need the phone 24/7; the iPad I do a few weeks without)
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Old Mar 8, 2012, 02:26 PM   #148
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Got mine ordered, retina display was the deciding factor. Best part, after I told my mom I was going to give her my iPad 2 so she can facetime with my sister, she got my dad to buy me the new iPad, booya! Gotta love parents that think there 29 year old son is still there "little boy"

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Old Mar 8, 2012, 02:30 PM   #149
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^ I hate you for using "there" instead of "their" at age 29.
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